ThereAndBackAgain

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About ThereAndBackAgain

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  • Birthday September 24

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    West Virginia
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    From childhood Catholic to lukewarm conservative Christian. But now the spell is broken. I've come to realize I was probably always an atheist by nature.

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  1. Navy pilot draws penis in the sky

    I don’t disagree, but I still want to buy the guy a beer...
  2. The Source of DNC Corruption: Debt

    I agree with all the above, except that the hyper-partisanship has been building for several decades, not just since Obama was elected. I think both major parties are past being capable of reform now. I’d love to see some D and R Senators leave their parties and start a new one.
  3. The Actual History of Black Americans

    I think the Identity Politics on the left, far from being a fringe thing, has been wholeheartedly embraced by the Democratic Party. Sometime in the past couple of decades, they decided that demography is destiny, that people could be counted on to vote as members of an identity group rather than as individuals. So they sliced and diced the population into identity groups in the hope of reaching a permanent governing majority. But so far at least, enough people have resisted identifying this way that the plan has been somewhat thwarted. They forgot that America is a Republic, and the Democratic Party has become a coastal/urban party, which can rack up vote counts but not achieve the broader appeal to win state houses and governors’ mansions, or even the White House against a candidate with such high negative approval as Donald Trump.
  4. Ignorance is bliss... until it isn't

    Quark, to my initial welcome I would add this: you are to be congratulated for getting over this hump. Many people see the problems with Christianity and with theism in general but lack the courage to actually reject it. They continue in a lifelong state of cognitive dissonace. They preach views about ‘sins’ and other aspects of morality that they don’t truly believe. You are in the minority, but a growing minority for sure. The road you have taken is often challenging, as in the situation with your parents. But those of us who have taken it ahead of you can tell you that it is certainly worthwhile. Taking control of your own mind and rejecting ideas that make no sense leads to a powerful sense of joy and peace in due course. As regards ‘coming out’ as an atheist, take your time. You have taken the most important step: coming out to YOURSELF! Now you have come out to us and you can be sure you are among friends and allies here. Many of us once hesitated to call ourselves atheists, but that usually goes away in time, to the point where we become so comfortable with the term that we forget how scary the a-word is to many. And we have ex-Christians here who choose to never call themselves atheists. So don’t feel obliged to call yourself that outside of your own mind and this community. It’s often easier just to describe yourself as ‘not religious’ or even agnostic, when talking to believers, even the most casual believers. Take your time... So again - congratulations and welcome!
  5. Ignorance is bliss... until it isn't

    Quark, welcome to our community! Your testimonial is very well written and a powerful demonstration of how religious faith ultimately fails. I hope it will inspire others who have struggled mightily to make sense of Christianity, to take a deep breath and finally turn their back on it. I’m glad you’re here!
  6. New Game: You Might be an Ex-Christian if.....

    You might be an Ex-Christian if . . . you vote for Sunday hunting in your state even if you don't hunt, because hey - it competes with church!
  7. It's Chelsea :-)

    Hi Chelsea! Welcome to our community! This is a good place to be. I hope it will help with your questions and your challenges. Looking forward to hearing more about you.
  8. A Better Life Documentary

    No, you can buy or rent it here... https://www.theatheistbook.com/products/a-better-life-an-exploration-of-joy-meaning-in-a-world-without-god
  9. I think that in order for the decline of religion in the West to continue, several things have to happen. The intellectual case against theism gains strength. This has been happening for about three centuries now, as science has gradually closed the Gaps for God to hide in. More recently, advances in scriptural history, archaeology and other fields have squeezed Christianity from other directions. This looks set to continue. What needs to happen next is the promotion of non-theistic alternatives to the human needs that are met by religion, and which lead people to stay with religion even in the face of the intellectual crumbling. There's little doubt that prayer makes people feel better, even if there is no god listening. Various forms of meditation or similar practices seem well positioned to replace prayer in many people's lives. And various forms of both Eastern and Western philosophies can help answer the question "How should I live my life?" This area in particular interests me a lot right now. I have started learning about different schools of Greek and Roman philosophy, and seeing that some of them provided valuable guidance that both predates Christianity and can outlast it. The pre-Christian Stoics and others didn't need Judeo-Christian teachings to help them live worthwhile, fulfilling lives, and neither do post-Christian westerners. And of course Eastern philosophies also offer lots of wisdom for living a "good" life. I look forward to a time when children are taught not to pray, but to meditate, and where the question "what church do you go to?" will be replaced by "what school of philosophy do you follow?". I guess this may seem utopian to some, but Christianity would not be the first religion to outlive its usefulness and become a relic of the past. And I hope it won't be the last, because Islam just as badly needs to meet the same fate.
  10. Damn Government!!!!

    I didn't know that ANY part of Florida was as much as 130' above sea level! Good luck with Irma, man... be safe.
  11. My Parents Still Love Me

    Wow Margee, that letter of yours is terrific! I hadn't read it before - thanks for linking to it!
  12. Is Jesus, god?

    Hi Bad2g4e, Since this is an ex-Christian community, you shouldn't be surprised that our overwhelming response to your question is a resounding NO! But if this is actually still a question in your mind then you're probably not ready to debate the issue with Christians. You may want to do some reading from those who study the Bible and the history of the period without a religious agenda. Bart Ehrman's book "How Jesus Became God" seems like a good place for you to start. Spoiler alert: Ehrman is not going to describe how a man became a deity, but rather how a man was turned into a god in the eyes of some, who were then able to propagate this unlikely belief. I should mention that while Ehrman accepts that a man named Jesus actually existed, there are others who are convinced that 'Jesus' is either entirely mythical or an amalgam of various Jewish figures from that era.
  13. Please View The Eclipse Safely

    We went to Greenville SC for the total eclipse. The forecast had been dodgy a few days out but at showtime, in spite of scattered clouds, we had perfect viewing conditions. At totality the ambient light was about what you'd get with a full moon. Fortunately the lights at the hotel pool where we were hanging out were on a timer, not a light sensor, so they stayed off. Venus was clearly visible for about 10 minutes and at least one other "star" could be seen. The drop in light between 95% and 100% was very pronounced. The view of the eclipsed sun and its corona was amazing. But the 2+ minutes of totality went by too quickly - we wished it could go on and on. Still glad we drove the seven hours each way to experience it though. And by the way, Greenville is a GREAT town! Looking forward to going back in a cooler season of the year.
  14. Please View The Eclipse Safely

    We're going to Greenville, SC for the full experience. I'm as excited to go to Greenville for the first time as I am to see a total eclipse! Keeping my fingers crossed for good weather, but the forecast looks good, four days out. It occurred to me that making a cross with the fingers for good luck is likely a vestige of Christianity...
  15. reputation feature

    Good questions. The answers are up for determination, as you would say.