BAA-- no, a house is not solid if it rests on an insecure foundation-- but please understand that people are in different places in how they think. I am being told I need to be more logical. Of course-- the best logic according to everyone on this site is to say that the entire book of Revelation was written about earlier times-- Nero was the beast, all of it was allegorical and was about the Roman empire-- which I don't necessarily disagree with. In fact, I love that idea. However, I have said earlier that I am surrounded by believers, some very close to me-- family, etc. I can't just get rid of them or stop talking to them. Because they know that I am a strong doubter or religion at this point in my life, they love to inundate me with endtimes stuff, because they want me to "get right". If you don't have this in your life, lucky you. Because it messes with your head. As I mentioned, I am on strong meds, trying to keep from having daily panic attacks, and to try and avoid fixating on this stuff.
Now, I had written my original post as an affirmation to myself, as much as a defense against Christianity. I would like to show by example why this timeline is important to me:
Suppose 10 years from now, technology advances to the point where people want to be able to pay for things without their wallet-- or even their phone, and a company like Apple or Google comes up with an NFC or RFID chip that can be placed in the hand (these exist already--google it) so that all one would have to do is swipe by the payment kiosk and they could then select what payment that they want based on what is associated with the chip. The chip could also contain links to ID and Health. Sounds pretty cool, and easy. People start getting these inserted-- now perhaps they can put their chip where ever they want-- left hand, right hand, arm, shoulder, etc. And eventually, these become popular, just like credit cards. (you can substitute tattoos with electronic ink here as well) The government sees viability in using these chips as official ID's and so now the government is involved.
You know that the fundies would be going nuts over a scenario such as this--stating that it is the MOTB and that by taking the mark, you will be hell bound. But, in all actuality, it is just technology progressing (perhaps in a way that seems somewhat similar to Revelation--because of the buying and selling and perhaps the hand part of it) but they will freak out. And I see it as just technological advancement as well. I am sure that there will be a lot of debate and argument regarding privacy, government control, etc. if something like this got off the ground, but there is still no Antichrist or Beast in this scenario-- we are not worshiping anybody who asserts themselves to be god and the "great wonders" haven't happened yet, etc. I think this scenario is entirely plausible in my lifetime, and that is why I want to have valid arguments in my mind.
My arguments are as follows:
There is no MOTB-- that Revelation is just a book written during the Roman persecution. (This is probably the most valid argument, but the fundies will push how the tech matches what Revelation says)
If I get my chip or tattoo in my left hand, I negate the prophecy! (I like this one, because I am taking control--but what if regulation is that you have to get a chip in the right hand)
It can't be the MOTB because there is no Beast and the scripture in the bible that talks about this scenario indicates that the Beast is alive and well when the chip is implemented.
Now, in this scenario, I suppose that Christians would try to assert that the government is the Beast, but it seems clear in the biblical reading that the Beast is a man who sets himself up as a god, and wants worship. I don't see how our government would fit that role in its current form.
Anyway, that is what I am trying to resolve. Let's take arguing with Christians out of the equation. It give me peace to think that you have to have a Beast before you can have the MOTB-- for the reason listed above. But you all have made me feel like I can't believe that is accurate-- and that scares me.