Citsonga

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  • Birthday 05/03/1973

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    I was raised in Christian family & was a devout Christian until age 29, when I began questioning things due to ongoing Bible study and mounting problems with it. I now fully realize that Christianity is mythology (and presumably all religion, for that matter). I consider myself an agnostic with atheist leanings.

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  1. Sorry, but I'm not going to waste my day going back and forth with your silly, childish nonsense here. Adios.
  2. Haha. You're the childish one here. You're the one who tried to put words in my mouth and twist the point of the thread into something completely different from what it was. Everyone reading the thread can see it, even if you can't grow up and admit it.
  3. LMAO! Looks like you're left with nothing after your epic fail.
  4. It's actually pretty easy. If they can't sway the state to continue the subsidies as a religious nonprofit, then they'll probably just reverse the sleight of hand by selling Ark Encounter back to themselves again to reinstate it as a for-profit business. That is, unless it turns out that the subsidies won't be resumed since they've already breached the agreement, which I'm not sure about.
  5. You're the one who diverted from the point by using the strawman. I never once said anything to justify cases where local governments screw people or businesses by rezoning and other methods. The point, the ONLY point this thread was about was how Answers in Genesis employed a sleight of hand in an effort to screw the local community where Ark Encounter is based.
  6. No, it's a strawman because the issues you raised were not factors in this case. That does not, in any way, shape, or form, imply that everything governments do are "totally innocent." In this particular case, Williamstown had bent over backwards for Ark Encounter. Just because AiG was the party in the wrong here does NOT justify everything every government body does, and I never even remotely insinuated anything of the sort, so stop trying to put words in my mouth.
  7. Is your reading comprehension really that bad or did you simply not really read what I said? Show me anywhere that I said anything of the sort.
  8. Strawman. That's not what happened with Ark Encounter and you know it. They didn't rezone or triple taxes. And, besides, Ark Encounter had gotten an agreement for $18,000,000 in subsidies, and then they cried like a baby over a measly $700,000. Wah wah wah. I NEVER said anything even remotely implying that government is all "pure," but that's irrelevant to the clearly unethical behaviour of Answers in Genesis. In this case, they are clearly the ones in the wrong.
  9. Yeah, because providing a fire department and police force is really just "trying to fuck you."
  10. New shroud of Turin test finds blood

    Although I wouldn't be surprised if this is some disingenuous crap, if there is truth to it, then it would seem to me to prove that it can't be Jesus' blood. Prolonged situations of may affect the makeup of one's blood, but would it really be altered by just one single day of torture? I'm no scientist, but it seems extremely unlikely to me that what Jesus allegedly suffered would be sufficient to change the makeup of his blood.
  11. After getting a shitload of subsidies, they decided to stick it to the local community with a shitty underhanded move. If you don't see how unethical that is, then I certainly wouldn't ever want to do business with you. Also, it turns out that it wasn't "a very smart move" after all. In their attempt to screw Williamstown, they inadvertently screwed themselves: http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2017/07/21/ark-park-violation-deal-over-18-million-state-tax-breaks/500245001/
  12. Yep. Their unethical behavior is pathetic. If you want to check out the comments in an earlier thread about this, here's a link:
  13. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Most of the Christians whom I know are more ethical than that, but yeah, some will definitely pull crap like that and justify it by whatever warped means they can come up with.
  14. Sh** christians have said to you

    Well, that's a hell of a lot better than telling you to talk to a pastor!
  15. Wow, it is amazing what levels some will stoop to, all in the name of jeebuz. From the Friendly Atheist: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2017/07/17/creationists-have-sold-ark-encounter-to-themselves-for-10-to-avoid-taxes/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=Newsletter&utm_campaign=Nonreligious&utm_content=44 From the Lexington Herald Leader: http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/article161782438.html Any guesses on who they'd call if that big wooden vessel caught on fire?