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  1. As an introvert, I tend to favour having few relationships that are deep over many that are shallow. While this is a strategy that works fine when you're younger, as you get older I've found that you still experience the attrition of friendships that you used to, but you're no longer getting new supplies. In other words, when you're younger you make and lose friends at roughly the same pace, but as you get older (especially as an introvert) you're still losing friends but not really making any new ones. It's to the point now where I don't have any friends anymore in my usual sense of the word. I am friendly with a bunch of people, but not particularly close to any of them. This is something I need to do something about, but I am at a bit of a loss as to how to overcome it. I'm not sure if I'll ever have any meaningful relationships anymore and that's a bit concerning to me because we all need some lifelines out there, even us loners. While we're talking about meaningful relationships, I've slowly come to realise over the last year that some relationships that I had were more one sided than I had realised. Looking back, I held onto some relationships despite the obvious signs that I was not valued. It's funny for me to realise now how misguided I was about it all, and how concerns my parents raised were more valid than I considered. Which is really a funny realisation to have given my age. I think I settled for what I could get, which it seems was not a lot. I didn't realise it until now, but I need some more self respect and that starts with not putting up with what I have been putting up with this whole time.
  2. 1.) Have you guys ever spoken more than you felt you've needed to about your deconversion? I try to keep my beliefs to my self, Australia is not a very religious country so the few times it's been a topic of conversation people didn't really get where I am coming from. It's frustrating, so I just keep it to myself. 2.) How do you deal with friends who are trying to 'win' you back? A few, but they'll either stick around or move on so it's not going to be a thorn in your side forever. 3.) Have you ever lost close friendships as an ex-believer because you made the choice to end it? Unfortunately we're often friends with people only because of a few shared interests. Once those go, so do the relationships. I lost a lot early on, and I've lost more as time went on. Those were probably the ones that it was harder for me to accept the truth of it. 4.) How did you deal with the pain, if you felt any? Time heals all wounds. The first year or so it was very raw for me. It's been like 7 or 8 now and it doesn't even feel like it was ever a part of my life now.
  3. I think if you live in the US it might be hard to imagine whether or not the majority of the population will be unbelievers, but living in Australia this is pretty much my reality already. Same goes with pretty much every other western country out there aside from the US. I mean, I know there are certainly large portions of the population that identify as "Christian" but outside of those I met at church I don't know anybody really who goes to church at all, let alone regularly. It might take a while to happen in the US, but for the most part I think in a lot of western countries the battle is pretty much won.
  4. Far out man, the site has changed look so much. All these bells and whistles make it load so slowly for me now.. :huh:

  5. I look forward to the sequel. Deadpool was the first superhero movie in a while that didn't suck. Love the teaser for this too.
  6. Yes, looking back I expressed my opinion rather shittily; Too much context was left in my mind rather than written out. I can see that now, my bad.
  7. It's like when a Muslim commits a terrorist act and all Muslims are expected to bend over backwards to vilify the act. You don't see Christians or whites doing the same when one of their own commits horrible acts. That said, they actually did: http://blacklivesmatter.com/the-black-lives-matter-network-advocates-for-dignity-justice-and-respect/ Not that anyone will give them credit for it because the next step would be saying that the outcry from them isn't as strong or as outspoken as it should be. We all know the drill.
  8. No, this flag flying business though seems distinctly American. I've never once seen a flag on anyone's property here in Australia or even as stickers on their cars. Only rarely have I seen tattoos of the Southern Cross. Cultural difference may explain why you don't understand the importance of heritage. Here in The South, it runs deep. Here's another cultural difference. Forgot to address this in my above post. I took this as "you guys don't care about heritage as much as we do" but I suppose I could have taken the phrase "why you don't understand the importance of heritage" as you saying that heritage is in of itself important (because hey I'm an American and as one I find it important thus it must be innately), and I don't get that. Since Australians are direct, I assume the top, but since you and Mike seem to think I was insinuating things, perhaps the latter is actually what you were yourself insinuating? Hmm EDIT: In case it wasn't obvious, I am joking around here. That said, I am not ignorant of people liking their heritage. I mean you have people everywhere you are 2nd or 3rd generation whatevers who call identify themselves as such. I'm of Serbian descent as you note, I'm interested in Serbia and the history of my ancestors (I'm even improving my language skills) but I don't really identify myself as "Serbian", neither do I feel that I am "Australian". I get interest, I just don't get the "pride" thing.
  9. Firstly, it would seem obvious to me that the if was implied but considering a lot of what you and Mike D have said I think there's probably big communication differences between how Australians and Americans do it, but more on that in a sec. One thing that I always get a kick out of on ex-c is that people tend to treat conversations like it's a formalised debate. I wasn't sinisterly contriving a false dichotomy which would win me internet points. I simply presented two possibilities, hell I even acknowledged there were more in a post to which I replied to you. I think it's rather much to assume that anything anyone says is exhaustive, and alternatively if one mentions something in relation to something else that it's some sort of slight jab. Perhaps this is more cultural differences, but if I thought something like you said I was insinuating, let me assure you I would have no problems outright saying it. As for the confederacy and why kind of light is fair or unfair, I think it would seem rather odd to try to paint it in a light that makes it ever seem like a positive thing. Once again though this is a cultural difference. I am not going to have the same kind of appreciation as an American would, or more specifically a southerner would to this. With all that said, I think we're distracting from the OP so I'll leave it at that and I'll go back to your our conversation about BLM in my next post a little bit later.
  10. I realise looking back I am probably coming across more "combative" than I was intending. I was merely curious as I don't understand the mindset of feeling proud of one's background et cetera. With that said, it seems to me that you should be just as happy to fly a Prussian flag than a Confederate one, no? I mean if anything that's where he grew up and all his family were from and where he probably experienced everything that defines him a man? Of course I understand these things are not always that logical. I see that he was a confederate soldier and that aspect of his life resonates with you. There's nothing wrong with that, I just don't get it (nor do I need to). As for accusing you of things, I feel that I'm rather direct. I mean I outright said I personally wouldn't care if you decided to have a Confederate flag on your lawn. My comparison between the Nazi and Confederate flags was one that I was probably rather poorly trying to illustrate that they carry a lot of baggage and it would seem odd to want to have either of them because even though they might represent some positive things (and in the case of the swastika it still does so quite a lot in places like India). Anyways, thanks for explaining your perspective, at least I can understand it a little bit better.
  11. Not really, I offered two scenarios (though that is of course a simplification) that they were for slavery or they fought because they had to. They of course had other motivations as you pointed out could have fought for their land but what are they fighting against really? Their way of life that the north threatened? What was distinct about their way of life? Of course simply saying slavery is an oversimplification, but I see a lot of southerners basically try to dismiss that slavery was that big of a deal in the south's mind. As for whether or not they should be repulsed by their ancestors, I outright said that if they fought for the right of slavery they should be. I dunno how anymore clear I could be about that. Anyways, I'm about to head off. Will edit or add another post when I get back to talk about the rest.
  12. While I understand people not trusting sources of information (I would be unlikely to take anything Fox News says at face value), often times it's used as an excuse not to actually research the claims themselves. HP themselves links to where they got their information, which in this case is the HRW organisation so it'd be worthwhile going to their site and reading their info, seeing what they base their statistics on and searching to see if there is any further evidence that corroborates with what they said rather than go "HP link, that's all I need to know about this".
  13. Thanks for the kind words everyone
  14. I see that you recognise there's a discrepancy between the treatments of blacks and whites, and at the same time you feel like that it's a system wide problem (though the degree it effects certain people differs). Seeing that, I don't really understand your problem of these people being upset and protesting over them wanting to be treated fairly. Are all people fighting for their rights truly being over demanding? Are all BLM activists the types to be overbearing and take over others' rallies and so on? If not, I don't see that it's fair to dismiss the movement outright as demanding things at the expense of others, as you put it.
  15. No, this flag flying business though seems distinctly American. I've never once seen a flag on anyone's property here in Australia or even as stickers on their cars. Only rarely have I seen tattoos of the Southern Cross.