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[Adam5]

Hi All, know nothing of American politics. Do u think Mitt Romney is perhaps hiding fundie xian/ mormon views? Which he will enact if voted in

Edit: not wish to take sides. Just in uk media mormonism always mentioned in news articles on romney

Edited by Adam5, 01 July 2012 - 02:27 PM.

[Babylonian Dream]

Romney wants to portray himself as a far right wing politician because that's the base he's pandering to. In New York and Massachusetts, republicans like him aren't much different than democrats, and I mean that to an extreme. That's why when Palin ads circulated by phone in our state, the candidate she supported suffered badly. Because it's a predominantly progressive state, just like Massachusetts.

[Adam5]

Babylonian, interesting. We have the same here. Left wing/ right wing. Virtually the smae, except different coloured tie.

[mcdaddy]

In short, no.

Presidents can't enact much of anything besides wars, anyways.

[oddbird1963]

I saw the name in the title and yawned. I think if being an extreme fundy or Mormon will make him popular, he'll become an extreme fundie and / or Mormon.

[OpheliaGinger]

His Mormonism does not bother me but Bachman's and Palin's association with the Assemblies of God does.

[Rank Stranger]

Best I can tell, Mitt Romney's only core belief is that Mitt Romney should be in charge. Now this sort of thing isn't unique to Romney- it's a core belief of pretty much all politicians that THEY should be in charge. What's unique in Romney's case is that this seems to be his ONLY deeply held belief or opinion.

He's been on just about every side of every issue over the course of his career. He's proven time and again that he'll blend into his surroundings like a chameleon, and say whatever people want to hear so long as they'll vote for him.

So it's hard to know what he'll do in office. Now Mitt is neither stupid nor mentally ill (and I can't say the same for most of the other Republican primary candidates). But he's lived a sheltered life- born into wealth and coddled by his daddy who was a CEO and a governor. I think he sees the world from this perspective only.

He's "not concerned about the poor".
"Some of his best friends own nascar teams"
He "likes being able to fire people"
His "wife owns a couple of cadillacs"

And the list could go on if one bothered to google it. So based on this perspective and on his past history with Bain Capital and as governor of Massechusetts, I expect that Mitt will continue to do what he's always done: correct the balance sheets by taking money from those who have the least- meanwhile funneling money to those who have the most (namely him and his buddies). In my opinion THAT is his primary skill-set.

There's plenty of anti-mormon sentiment out there... particularly among evangelicals (Romney's base!?!). So I suspect that he would be pretty subtle and careful about any pro-mormon policy. But evangelicals, catholics, and mormons DO share certain shitty "values", and I expect that he would make some token attempts to force them onto the rest of us... not out of any conviction, but to throw a bone to his 'base'.

[Legion]

Just in uk media mormonism always mentioned in news articles on romney

Oh yeah? Interesting. And they don't mention on every news article of Obama that he is a Christian?

[Legion]

I wonder if anyone outside of the U.S. could ever hope to understand American politics. It's such a subtle layering of bullshit that it makes quantum mechanics look like tinkertoys.

[Rank Stranger]

Just in uk media mormonism always mentioned in news articles on romney

Oh yeah? Interesting. And they don't mention on every news article of Obama that he is a Christian?

Oh dear- more of that Librul Bias!

Just how far can such a simple notion of persecution take a man? Or a movement?

[Legion]

Just in uk media mormonism always mentioned in news articles on romney

Oh yeah? Interesting. And they don't mention on every news article of Obama that he is a Christian?

Oh dear- more of that Librul Bias!

There's no need for a conspiracy.

Just how far can such a simple notion of persecution take a man? Or a movement?

I don't know. Have I ever told you my idea for "Stop in 2012"?

[Rank Stranger]

Just in uk media mormonism always mentioned in news articles on romney

Oh yeah? Interesting. And they don't mention on every news article of Obama that he is a Christian?

Oh dear- more of that Librul Bias!

There's no need for a conspiracy.

Just how far can such a simple notion of persecution take a man? Or a movement?

I don't know. Have I ever told you my idea for "Stop in 2012"?

No, haven't heard that one. What does "stop in 2012 entail"?

[Legion]

No, haven't heard that one. What does "stop in 2012 entail"?

Well, I had this notion that basically there are people in America who work and people who do not work. I figure most of the real workers, those who add the most value per calorie expended, reside in the lower eschelons of the socio-economic spectrum. And they though they are not exclusively in the independents and the base of the Right, they are disproportionately there.

The idea is to have these people engage in a work strike as an act of non-violent resistance.

[Rank Stranger]

No, haven't heard that one. What does "stop in 2012 entail"?

Well, I had this notion that basically there are people in America who work and people who do not work. I figure most of the real workers, those who add the most value per calorie expended, reside in the lower eschelons of the socio-economic spectrum. And they though they are not exclusively in the independents and the base of the Right, they are disproportionately there.

The idea is to have these people engage in a work strike as an act of non-violent resistance.

Union tactics? Sounds downright 'leftist' of you.

I agree with you that productivity is NOT directly linked to pay here in The Land of Opportunity. Millions of people out there do three times the work I do in a day, and don't get paid half as much. I was that guy for many years. Problem is that most of them are also poorly educated and easily manipulated. Why else would they continue to vote for people who relentlessly push to cut their pay and any remaining rights they may have as workers?

I understand that you love 'your people'. But IMO you can't save them from themselves. You can only save yourself.

[Legion]

No, haven't heard that one. What does "stop in 2012 entail"?

Well, I had this notion that basically there are people in America who work and people who do not work. I figure most of the real workers, those who add the most value per calorie expended, reside in the lower eschelons of the socio-economic spectrum. And they though they are not exclusively in the independents and the base of the Right, they are disproportionately there.

The idea is to have these people engage in a work strike as an act of non-violent resistance.

Union tactics? Sounds downright 'leftist' of you.

I agree with you that productivity is NOT directly linked to pay here in The Land of Opportunity. Millions of people out there do three times the work I do in a day, and don't get paid half as much. I was that guy for many years. Problem is that most of them are also poorly educated and easily manipulated. Why else would they continue to vote for people who relentlessly push to cut their pay and any remaining rights they may have as workers?

I understand that you love 'your people'. But IMO you can't save them from themselves. You can only save yourself.

I'm not expecting either honesty or encouragement from you Rank.

[raoul]

Rumor has it if he's elected, we'll be forced to wear that magical Mormon underwear but I dunno for sure. LOL

[Paine]

Magic Man Jammies are but the first of his superstitions that the Amur-ican public will hold against him. Too bad, too. I swear I think the Leftists saw to his nomination because he was PRECISELY WHO the Left want to run against.

Romney is nothing but a white bread, out of touch, Northern, elitist snob piece of shit.

But then again, Obama is just the pumpernickel version of the same fucking loaf of shit.

And if it is any more terrifying---yeah Mormons have a mandate to take this country over politically. Dig back into the writings of Brigham Young himself. Just listen to that fucktard Glenn Beck. He is right on the Constitution until he starts in on all that Leo Skousen-God-ordained-American exceptionalism bullshit....there is PLENTY PLENTY PLENTY of PASSIVE and subtle Mormons-Are-The-Only -Real-Christians bullshit peddled in the sub text of his show. It doesn't take but a few days to hear the pattern of Mormon relativism in Glenn Becks rants if you know the context.

I attend a book club with a very devout Mormon (who's one sin is reading "those kind" of books) and she openly criticizes Glenn Beck of being TOO OBVIOUS with the "big plan"///that he will ruin it for Romney's "mission" to fulfill the LDS dream of a Mormon in the Oval Office. **WHACK. JOB.***

[Ramen666]

His religion is unimportant to me, there are far worse out there on the GOP side when it comes to religion and how they want to use it on this country. That being said, I prefer Romney as President than any other the far right canidates/Tea Party endorsed. Romney just seems like another business as usual type President and things won't change that drastic.

What you see is a change in the right wingers on here and in the media (even if Romney follows the same exact path and does the same policies).

[Positivist]

http://exmormon.org/...-Mormon-Secrets

[Babylonian Dream]

Well either way, the liberals don't have to worry, we'll have a mandate and universal health care, even if Obama didn't pass any bills yet. Romney likes that too.