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#1 rach

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 07:12 PM

When I look at the description of heaven as described in the bible I just can't imagine how anybody could desire to go there!  Freaks me the hell out!  You've got a place with no nighttime, no sea, no marriage, no sex, apparently no fashion (white robes, apparently), and of course ruled by a dictator.  And to top it all off, the Apostle Paul will be there.  Forever.  For the life of me I just cannot see how a Christian could study heaven as depicted in the bible, and actually want to go there.  The only good thing I could find was the "no tears, no pain" part.  Other than that it sounds downright creepy.  Cryotanknotworthy.gif Cryotanknotworthy.gif Cryotanknotworthy.gif  As an agnostic I fear that it exists and that I'll end up there.  Theres no way I'd be happy there. 


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 07:41 PM

I wanted to get into heaven so I would be reunited with all my loved ones.........but they weren't saved anyway....

 

Heaven does sound totally boring to me now. Sleeping forever sounds a lot better...no more alarm clocks...


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 08:15 PM

Isn't there a passage in Revelation or something where the people in heaven are laughing ad the people suffering in hell?


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 08:22 PM

Yeah, I used to think the same thing.....but some notion of pure love makes you not want to leave.  Hoping you have that experience


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 08:53 PM

I don't get the whole 72 virgins in paradise thing. Being stuck forever with 72 women for eternity? That's hell, isn't it?


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 09:31 PM

Pretty sure I spent less time looking forward to heaven. Obsessing over hell consumed most of my time


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 10:01 PM

I think fear of hell is what motivates most Christians to desire heaven. That's the duplicity of Christianity, it traps you into believing there are only two alternatives.

Evangelicals who take their faith seriously (note: I don't consider this a virtue, since Christianity is evil) have different reasons though. They want to go to heaven because Jesus is there. If Jesus were in hell, they would desire hell instead. If he were on the moon, that's where they'd want to be. Evangelicals are fixated on Jesus and desire eternal companionship with him. It's important to remember this when dealing with a serious evangelical.

Edited by Bhim, 04 December 2013 - 10:02 PM.

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 10:41 PM

@ Bhim: A-mum is obsessed with Jesus.  And she doesn't see this, but I do.  A-mum is fulfilling a fantasy of having a powerful beautiful superhero type man love her unconditionally forever wub.png , because she never had a man love her like that.  And I see that plain as day but she doesn't.  It's the same reason she reads romance novels.  Fantasy.  One time she was describing how she believe that Jesus looked when he walked the earth according to her beliefs.  He was "rustic" or something like that.  Strong, some stubble on the face perhaps.  She never used the word ugly.  That would ruin the fantasy. 

As for me I used to look forward to heaven because first of all I thought I was getting a sweet deal at not going to hell.  Secondly they told me it is perfect and "ever-increasing happiness forever."  Ever-increasing happiness forever?  How does that work?  But again...it's fantasy.  Since you don't find out too much about heaven in the bible as a Christain, you begin fantasizing, filling in the blanks with your own imagination.  Whatever "perfect" means to you.  The more I read the bible the less I desired it's heaven.  It reminded me of life in the book "the Giver" where the society had chosen Sameness, meaning everyone needs to act the same and believe the same, and sexual feelings are taken away with medications.  The boy ends up having to run away from it all, just as I would have to run away if I found myself in the biblical heaven. 


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 11:06 PM

I don't get the whole 72 virgins in paradise thing. Being stuck forever with 72 women for eternity? That's hell, isn't it?


slave2sex,,,, you don't get 72 virgins in christian heaven, wrong door,,,,

you will get 72 christian virgins in the islamic heaven probably,,,,

and can be only use once,,,,,,

heaven: singing hallelujah non-stop like a broken down CD??????
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Posted 05 December 2013 - 12:03 AM

When I look at the description of heaven as described in the bible I just can't imagine how anybody could desire to go there!  Freaks me the hell out!  You've got a place with no nighttime, no sea, no marriage, no sex, apparently no fashion (white robes, apparently), and of course ruled by a dictator.  And to top it all off, the Apostle Paul will be there.  Forever.  For the life of me I just cannot see how a Christian could study heaven as depicted in the bible, and actually want to go there.  The only good thing I could find was the "no tears, no pain" part.  Other than that it sounds downright creepy.  Cryotanknotworthy.gif Cryotanknotworthy.gif Cryotanknotworthy.gif  As an agnostic I fear that it exists and that I'll end up there.  Theres no way I'd be happy there. 

 

I have other destinations planned.


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 12:04 AM

I don't get the whole 72 virgins in paradise thing. Being stuck forever with 72 women for eternity? That's hell, isn't it?

 

Rather be with 72 nymphos.


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 12:40 AM

 

I don't get the whole 72 virgins in paradise thing. Being stuck forever with 72 women for eternity? That's hell, isn't it?

 

Rather be with 72 nymphos.

 

 

Yeah, I feel sorry for the 72nd virgin. Like getting picked last for the high school baseball team. 

 

Of course, this fantasy only works if you think of women like slaves or robots, because why would all 72 just want to be with you for eternity, sharing you with 71 other women? I mean... ew. 


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 05:00 AM

When I look at the description of heaven as described in the bible I just can't imagine how anybody could desire to go there!  Freaks me the hell out!  You've got a place with no nighttime, no sea, no marriage, no sex, apparently no fashion (white robes, apparently), and of course ruled by a dictator.  And to top it all off, the Apostle Paul will be there.  Forever.  For the life of me I just cannot see how a Christian could study heaven as depicted in the bible, and actually want to go there.  The only good thing I could find was the "no tears, no pain" part.  Other than that it sounds downright creepy.  Cryotanknotworthy.gif Cryotanknotworthy.gif Cryotanknotworthy.gif  As an agnostic I fear that it exists and that I'll end up there.  Theres no way I'd be happy there. 

Hell is great this time of the year. Nice and warm, all the nymphos you want :P
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Posted 05 December 2013 - 06:27 AM

I heard this on the radio the other day.  A preacher promised that heaven would be great because everybody would be just like Jesus, and they would do nothing but praise god continually because that is all they would want to do because it would be so beautiful.  

 

Eternity.  Just keep doing that for eternity.

 

And god's role for all eternity is to sit on his throne and bask in the praise.

 

That sounds so flipping, eternally insane.

 

Whoever thought this up when they wrote the bible should have thought this through better to make it more appealing.


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 08:31 AM

 

 

I don't get the whole 72 virgins in paradise thing. Being stuck forever with 72 women for eternity? That's hell, isn't it?

 

Rather be with 72 nymphos.

 

 

Yeah, I feel sorry for the 72nd virgin. Like getting picked last for the high school baseball team. 

 

Of course, this fantasy only works if you think of women like slaves or robots, because why would all 72 just want to be with you for eternity, sharing you with 71 other women? I mean... ew. 

 

 

and with my luck it will be 72 other guys just like me all asking where the women are.

 

Me: "Hey guys, where are all the women?"

 

Guy number one: "Yeah what the hell, this wasn't what was promised."

 

So we all storm to find out what's going on.

 

Guy number 36 to clerk: "Hey what's this. Where's the women?"

 

Random clerk: "Sorry dude, why would there be women here?"

 

All of us: "The holy koran said there will be!!!!!"

 

Random clerk: "Yeah, you probably didn't read that right? Who translated that for you guys?"

 

All of us: "God dammit errr rather allah dammit!!!!"

 

Random clerk laughing: "Wait what you guys though there would be ha ha 72 virgins for each of you ha ha here to please you guys ha ha. "

 

All of us standing awkwardly around: "Er well..."

 

Random clerk laughing: "Where would we find enough women ha ha and then virgin ones ha ha. Is that even still a thing ha ha virginity ha ha"

 

Guy number 39: "Erm so what happens now?"

 

Random clerk laughing: "Start praising dude. You have all eternity. Start praising."


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 08:52 AM

I don't care how beautiful and perfect it is, after about the first 10,000 years or so, it's going to be BORING!  That's just the law of diminishing returns.


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 10:27 AM

For me it was more my intrinsic sense of self preservation. I don't want to die, I fear death and particularly in the United States, death is almost a taboo subject that we avoid talking about or dealing with. So, when a young, gullible, scared RogueScholar is offered a way of not dying, not having to think about the possibility of this scary and tabooish issue, I jumped on it as many young and impressionable people often due when they experience religious indoctrination. Unfortunately, this made deconversion a painful, terrifying and sometimes hopeless experience. It probably sounds pitiful to some, but it was a truly painful experience.
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Posted 05 December 2013 - 11:03 AM

Heaven, as depicted in the Bible, doesn't sound much different than living in North Korea.


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 11:08 AM

 

 

I don't get the whole 72 virgins in paradise thing. Being stuck forever with 72 women for eternity? That's hell, isn't it?

 

Rather be with 72 nymphos.

 

 

Yeah, I feel sorry for the 72nd virgin. Like getting picked last for the high school baseball team. 

 

Of course, this fantasy only works if you think of women like slaves or robots, because why would all 72 just want to be with you for eternity, sharing you with 71 other women? I mean... ew. 

 

 

How does that work anyways? If you deflower one of them, do they disappear and a new virgin reappears? It has to, otherwise you don't actually have 72 virgins for eternity, do you? Unless you never got to boink them.

 

No matter how you look at it, sounds awful to me.


Edited by slave2six, 05 December 2013 - 11:12 AM.

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