bornagainathiest Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 Fun, yes... but frustrating too. What's needed is some hard evidence for the multiverse to stop the likes of WLC, Slick and OC from misusing the technical wording of theoretical papers to their own advantage. That's the core of the problem here, F. Nobody can force these bozos to correctly apply the correct axioms, correctly - so they don't do it. Nor can they be made to use technical terminology properly, either. Just one decent piece unequivocal multiversal data would change all that! It wouldn't matter if we had mountains of evidence for the multiverse. Craig would still misuse the scientific terms in order to make it seem like the evidence favored his argument. Just look at how the creationists misuse concepts such as "radiometric dating" and "transitional fossils" to twist the existing evidence. Ah yes, T2M! But it would be far easier to catch him at it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought2Much Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Fun, yes... but frustrating too. What's needed is some hard evidence for the multiverse to stop the likes of WLC, Slick and OC from misusing the technical wording of theoretical papers to their own advantage. That's the core of the problem here, F. Nobody can force these bozos to correctly apply the correct axioms, correctly - so they don't do it. Nor can they be made to use technical terminology properly, either. Just one decent piece unequivocal multiversal data would change all that! It wouldn't matter if we had mountains of evidence for the multiverse. Craig would still misuse the scientific terms in order to make it seem like the evidence favored his argument. Just look at how the creationists misuse concepts such as "radiometric dating" and "transitional fossils" to twist the existing evidence. Ah yes, T2M! But it would be far easier to catch him at it. True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyChristian Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I've always felt as thought we should always allow disagreeing viewpoints to be given an equal go at one another. I think this is an uncut version of said virtue in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akd6qzFYzX8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Yep---- sure signs of Steve Bennett-- asking us to watch a video. Steve, you can change your name--- but your tactics always shine through. I am not sure what your motive is --- but the people on this site are not idiots. They have seen what you are trying to peddle and have rejected it. So your attempts to get your preaching in are not going to work. Or--- are you secretly doubting yourself, and keep coming back to this site to peek around? Not sure--- but you are going to be outed anytime you start up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornagainathiest Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 Yep---- sure signs of Steve Bennett-- asking us to watch a video. Steve, you can change your name--- but your tactics always shine through. I am not sure what your motive is --- but the people on this site are not idiots. They have seen what you are trying to peddle and have rejected it. So your attempts to get your preaching in are not going to work. Or--- are you secretly doubting yourself, and keep coming back to this site to peek around? Not sure--- but you are going to be outed anytime you start up. You got that right Kris! Looks like Steve's trying to get himself into as many threads as he can before the banhammer falls.... again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I noticed that too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MadameX Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 This person clearly has more than the usual amount of doubts about his/her beliefs. FC,we can see that you are seeking. No need to admit your doubts to us or to yourself if you are not ready yet but keep reading. However, the forum does have rules, please abide by them same as everybody else does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyShit Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 HIghlights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦ ficino ♦ Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Holy shit, Holy Shit! Thanks for this priceless link. Re the last thing said on the video: Craig in fact is STILL trying to justify the Kalam, now in response to the new gravitational wave announcement! And he is still wearing an appalling tie!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought2Much Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I've always felt as thought we should always allow disagreeing viewpoints to be given an equal go at one another. This assumes that all ideas have equal merit that require equal intellectual investigation in order to pit them against each other in debate. This is simply not the case. Some ideas are just stupid, and we can state as such conclusively and definitively. Oh, and the only people that say things like "all viewpoints should be given an equal go at one another" are people that have really weak viewpoints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyShit Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Holy shit, Holy Shit! Thanks for this priceless link. Re the last thing said on the video: Craig in fact is STILL trying to justify the Kalam, now in response to the new gravitational wave announcement! And he is still wearing an appalling tie!! Thanks! Here's another one that rips Craig to shreds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦ ficino ♦ Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Good stuff. The guy on the video shouldn't have said that six of Craig's arguments also prove Zeus and especially, Medusa, since neither of those in mythology is a first cause of the universe. otherwise, love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 HIghlights Carroll: "That was cutting edge stuff 2,500 years ago." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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