Voice Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I'm not sure why the original topic, "Meditation," started by Woodsy ( http://www.ex-christian.net/topic/60520-meditation/ ) has been locked. Is there a time limit on posts where they lock after no one replies for a while? The reason I wanted to bring up the Meditation thread again is to discuss what we've referred to as "the core." My experience has led me to the notion that the moment (which we all experience together) and the core are inter-related, if not one in the same thing. My question for those seasoned in meditation is how do you perceive the inter-connection of the core and the moment? Do you perceive they are separate, connected, or one on the same? Why? How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deva Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I believe that now after 30 days a thread is automatically locked if there are no more responses. I have a "core" as well, but I discovered that when I was a child and then later as well as a teenager. Since that time I have had no more experiences of the same type, although I have done meditation of various kinds.. As far as I can express it, the core and the moment are the same, but this is very difficult because the moment is not like a regular moment, but really transcends time. Indeed, for me, time stopped completely. That is a very interesting experience to have. Not looking for the experience, not "doing" anything. No drugs either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 I wonder if the core and the moment are actually one in the same, it's not a popular area of questioning. Quantum physics argues that we all share the same core, and that shared moments are not bound to space-time. There are arguments in other circles that there isn't a single, shared moment but multiples, and that our cores are separate. When I have moments of revelation and perceive moment and core on transcendent levels, I find the core and the moment integral, maybe separate things, it's hard to tell them apart. Both are non existent in physical terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deva Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Its hard to express in words, but see the core and the moment as separate "things". The moment is still a measurement of time and the core is not in any way related to time. The core is beyond or apart somehow. It is not affected by time in any way. Experiencing the moment would be to freeze time in your own perception. Some people say it is actually impossible to experience the moment, since the nervous system always has a delay. I only know I did have one experience where time seemed to stop, however I don't know if it was some kind of fugue state or something mystical, or what it was. Everything also looked more vivid, brighter. It was some kind of altered state of consciousness. Many years ago, I used to have more of these times where I would just be staring into space and disappear as far as conscious thought goes. I don't do that anymore and none of the meditation techniques I have tried can recreate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 I remember you were talking about this in the original Meditation thread when AlwaysNow entered and said things about the moment that I have also found to be true. Deva, I think you're experiencing Moment all the time, you think about it, right? More than you realize. Not every moment is a revelation of course, but it's there all the time. Time is a construct for math and day-to-day concerns which all function around the moment as a point (most commonly referred to as the Origin on a graph) generally moving in one direction thought of as forward. I perceive in meditations that Moment is independent of constructs of time, higher in the hierarchy of how things are. Time is only one description of events as they occur around moments. There is a definite "source in" and "source out" with time thought of as future and past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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