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I arrived home and saw two JW on the other side of the street ..working their way down,,,I was ready for them,

 

sure enough ...

 

I answered the door all ready, eager ..

 

first thing I said was 'how did you know there is a god'

 

and he said, look around, at creation

 

and so I said ..'how do you get from this, from nature to 'a god'

 

and he just said he didn't want to argue and left ..

 

damm it!

 

 

 

 

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I had a similar experience last Saturday haha. I lurked round end of my driveway trying to look busy just to get them to stop and talk. Got an invite to a presentation on Monday night but couldn't make it.

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I arrived home and saw two JW on the other side of the street ..working their way down,,,I was ready for them,

 

sure enough ...

 

I answered the door all ready, eager ..

 

first thing I said was 'how did you know there is a god'

 

and he said, look around, at creation

 

and so I said ..'how do you get from this, from nature to 'a god'

 

and he just said he didn't want to argue and left ..

 

damm it!

Damn!  They just left?  Just like that?  That has to be a once-in-a-lifetime event.

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I've had too many arguments with Joeys to have the energy for yet more of their... (tried to think of a polite word and failed, but you get what I mean).

 

In normal circumstances, I'd just say "No thanks".  If feeling really mischievous, I would telll them I'm a satanist and watch them run...

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In the past I have answered the door naked, or just silently stared at them, or told them I worshiped our true lord Lucifer. I find that more fun than arguing with a faulty logic chip.

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Not many JW's in my experience, but I have had some mormans knock on my door.  It is always fun to invite them in for a few cold beers.  zDuivel7.gif

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I don't get the opportunity to debate religion very often in real life, and wanted to see how i could do....

Nevermind, i need to find some street preachers, but theres not many here...

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I know what you mean, DarkLady. I see you're in New Zealand. Yesterday on another thread we had a discussion. I think things are similar here to NZ where it regards religion. The US is kinda the Christian mirror image of what is happening in the fundy Muslim countries, in my opinion. We have pockets of randy fundies who make life miserable for family members who hold differing beliefs but our civil governmental constitutions don't polarize church and state like in the US and some Muslim countries. I'm not sure if that's what makes the difference but it could have an impact. Fundy Christians have to be more subtle. And they are. People here in liberal Ontario can lose upper middle-class jobs if they become active and outspoken for their atheist pursuits but the official reason won't mention religion. 

 

Back to your post. I've noticed too that JWs were in a hurry to leave when they noticed that I was overtly evolutionist and atheist. They asked me where I think we come from and I said, "I don't think I need to discuss with adults where babies come from." They sort of murmured under their breath, "Oh you're one of those," and made to leave. I wanted more debate and quickly thought up a few more things to say but they left. That was several years ago and they haven't been back since.

 

The one street preacher I found was so irrational that finally I walked away with him yelling after me. I noticed that his audience cleared out during my extended debate with him. 

 

So yeah, the real life face-to-face debates are few and far between with strangers on the street in my part of the world. Sometimes I think they getting more populous, which I take as a bad sign for society's welfare.

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Worst one I ever asked a believer.... "What does your god actually DO?"  He didn't last long after that.

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Worst one I ever asked a believer.... "What does your god actually DO?"  He didn't last long after that.

 

That's strange, given the fat book full of statements on what this god supposedly does. I guess he knew he couldn't support his claims to satisfy a person who would ask that kind of question....I wonder, the more testimonies I hear like this, is the time coming when more of them will wake up and realize that it really is all a sham? 

 

With billions of theists, we've got a lo-o-ng way to go to convince them all, I guess, and probably won't see it happen in this century. 

 

Earlier in my life that used to not be such a big statement, since the century was ending anyway....

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"The US is kinda the Christian mirror image of what is happening in the fundy Muslim countries, in my opinion."  RS Martin

 

Well that depends upon where you are in the US.  But even in the Bible belt I have noticed that in business and professional life it's not that bad.  Moreover, the big difference between Xtian and Muslim that I've noticed is that American Xtians would never stand for the absence of materialism like the muslims.    bill

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I've noticed an increase in the numbers of street preachers here - they're around many a lunchtime where I work.

 

A while back a colleague was telling me how he saw a Muslim preacher waving a Koran and then, a little further on, he was accosted by a Christian.

 

His response?

 

"Just down there a man is preaching Islam.  Why don't you go and sort out with him which one of you is talking rubbish?  Then I can listen to the other one."

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