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That is damn funny!

 

Can you see the con?  It cures what ails you.  It cleans any stain.  Snake Oil does it all.

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End do you really watch this stuff for fun?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Az0okaHig

 

Seems rather accurate..

 

Patheos rebuttal:

 

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/10/13/a-rebuttal-to-paul-harveys-if-i-were-the-devil/

 

"[if I were the devil,] I might even pose as a professional essayist and get paid to read my propaganda to millions of radio listeners in a neighborly, persuasive voice." :-)

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If I were the Devil I would appear to Mary and tell her that I had to overshadow her so that God's son could be born and save the world.  Then I would be born like a normal person and grow up.  Then I would start a ministry and train people to convert the whole world to my religion.  I would teach that I had completed God's laws so that people no longer need to follow God's laws anymore.  I would perform a few magic tricks to convince them that I was the real deal.  Then I would bask in the glow of millions of humans worshiping me.  Then after Christians die I would eat their souls because souls are so tasty.

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I always loved to listen to Paul Harvey. He was a hoot!

 

BTW, the rebuttal for this video is most excellent.

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I always loved to listen to Paul Harvey. He was a hoot!

 

BTW, the rebuttal for this video is most excellent.

I enjoyed Paul Harvey myself.....good DAY.

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This was too stupid to comment on, but I used to enjoy Paul Harvey. 

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"And now for the REST of the story...."

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Harvey's New York Times obituary examined his distinctive radio style:

[He] "personalized the radio news with his right-wing opinions, but laced them with his own trademarks: a hypnotic timbre, extended pauses for effect, heart-warming tales of average Americans and folksy observations that evoked the heartland, family values and the old-fashioned plain talk one heard around the dinner table on Sunday." "'Hello, Americans,' he barked. 'This is Paul Harvey! Stand byyy for Newwws!'" "He railed against welfare cheats and defended the death penalty. He worried about the national debt, big government, bureaucrats who lacked common sense, permissive parents, leftist radicals and America succumbing to moral decay. He championed rugged individualism, love of God and country, and the fundamental decency of ordinary people."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Harvey

 

At times like these I feel so lucky to be born in NZ, with its leftist radicals and moral decay.

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Harvey's New York Times obituary examined his distinctive radio style:

[He] "personalized the radio news with his right-wing opinions, but laced them with his own trademarks: a hypnotic timbre, extended pauses for effect, heart-warming tales of average Americans and folksy observations that evoked the heartland, family values and the old-fashioned plain talk one heard around the dinner table on Sunday." "'Hello, Americans,' he barked. 'This is Paul Harvey! Stand byyy for Newwws!'" "He railed against welfare cheats and defended the death penalty. He worried about the national debt, big government, bureaucrats who lacked common sense, permissive parents, leftist radicals and America succumbing to moral decay. He championed rugged individualism, love of God and country, and the fundamental decency of ordinary people."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Harvey

 

At times like these I feel so lucky to be born in NZ, with its leftist radicals and moral decay.

 

We reap what we sow sister.

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We reap what we sow sister.

 

Lol.  Glad I'm not "sowing" right wing hatred then.

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We reap what we sow sister. 
 

 

Whoa, that's a dangerous road to take. Sure you want to go there?
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We reap what we sow sister.

Lol.  Glad I'm not "sowing" right wing hatred then.

 

Did you watch the clip? Pull something out of it and let's discuss rather than just hatin' on right-wingers.

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We reap what we sow sister.

Whoa, that's a dangerous road to take. Sure you want to go there?

 

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, and I, I took the road less traveled..

 

Specifics you had in mind?

 

(That's how I woo the ladies...a little poetry from the back pocket)...lol.

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Wow, so uncreative; the things that he would do if he were the devil. Why not do something more creative, if one could be the "Prince of Darkness"?

 

If I were the devil, I'd deceive billions of people into thinking that I am God and that their default, human nature makes them evil and deserving of an afterlife of relentless, never-ending pain.

 

If I were the devil, I'd provide humans with prophecies and then manipulate future humans and nature so that some of those prophecies were fulfilled, to further deceive humans into thinking that I am God.

 

If I were the devil, I'd answer prayers here and there with my magical powers and then ignore the vast majority of them. Maybe I'd help an army win a war here, help someone find their car keys elsewhere, maybe heal one or two people of disease a day (while modern medicine heals far more than I do). I'd answer just enough prayers to cause people to love and adore me, but ignore the rest.

 

If I were the devil, I'd invent a straw man version of myself, once I've deceived billions into thinking that I'm God, and make all of my most devout followers believe that the straw man version of myself is lying to them every time they have doubts or think critically for a moment about the religion they were raised into.

 

If I were the devil, then I'd see to it that many people went to church every Sunday to listen to guilt trips & sugar-coated sermons that are designed to make them feel good about themselves, despite their belief that they are born evil and are deserving of my wrath.

 

 

 

As powerful as Christian fundies make the devil out to be, he could be powerful enough to do the things I've come up with just now. Maybe their very own god IS the devil and Lucifer/Satan is just some fabricated straw man version of himself, without them even knowing it?

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We reap what we sow sister.

Lol.  Glad I'm not "sowing" right wing hatred then.

 

Did you watch the clip? Pull something out of it and let's discuss rather than just hatin' on right-wingers.

 

He could have done more with his career than just hatin' on left wingers.

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Specifics you had in mind? 

 

 

If one believes in the reap/sow cliche you'll need some good excuses for everything that's gone wrong in your life. Can't have it both ways. The fact is there's no Karma-like mechanism since we can observe the deserving and the undeserving prospering and failing at the same rates.
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Specifics you had in mind? 

 

 

If one believes in the reap/sow cliche you'll need some good excuses for everything that's gone wrong in your life. Can't have it both ways. The fact is there's no Karma-like mechanism since we can observe the deserving and the undeserving prospering and failing at the same rates.

 

 

Hey, that's even in the bible. 

 

Ecc. 7

 

15 In my short life, I have seen everything. I have seen good people die young, and I have seen evil people live long lives.

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Then this goes against everything you preach. "We know the mechanisms, we know the science, we are rational, thinking, able to see the consequences", "By god, if we sow it, we know what will come up"......Which would make sense if you were an Omni type. And that boils down to humanity putting themselves above God as usual.

 

Someone debunk this for me in 300 words or less.

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Then this goes against everything you preach. "We know the mechanisms, we know the science, we are rational, thinking, able to see the consequences", "By god, if we sow it, we know what will come up"......Which would make sense if you were an Omni type. And that boils down to humanity putting themselves above God as usual.

Someone debunk this for me in 300 words or less.

Asserting that good fortune follows those who do good and ill fortune befalls the evil doers is wishful thinking, not science. Science doesn't attempt to predict the course of the affairs of individuals. There are too many random factors for anyone to make assumptions.

 

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Specifics you had in mind? 

 

 

If one believes in the reap/sow cliche you'll need some good excuses for everything that's gone wrong in your life. Can't have it both ways. The fact is there's no Karma-like mechanism since we can observe the deserving and the undeserving prospering and failing at the same rates.

 

 

I thought it was Satan's fault...now its Karma. :-)

 

The basic mood of the video is that Satan (which isn't me) is doing terrible things in our society but people are somehow responsible, right End? How does this work? This is the twisted and illogical guilt mechanism of Christianity.

 

Someone from every generation since the dawn of time has been complaining about moral decay. Why hasn't society destroyed itself by now?

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Then this goes against everything you preach. "We know the mechanisms, we know the science, we are rational, thinking, able to see the consequences", "By god, if we sow it, we know what will come up"......Which would make sense if you were an Omni type. And that boils down to humanity putting themselves above God as usual.

 

Someone debunk this for me in 300 words or less.

There's no point in me trying to debunk anything you believe in.  You think it's wrong for humanity to "put themselves above god" therefore you believe in a god therefore you're not openminded enough to think about a world without one.  Waste of time trying to talk with you about it.

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Then this goes against everything you preach. "We know the mechanisms, we know the science, we are rational, thinking, able to see the consequences", "By god, if we sow it, we know what will come up"......Which would make sense if you were an Omni type. And that boils down to humanity putting themselves above God as usual.

 

Someone debunk this for me in 300 words or less.

 

 

How can I debunk it when I can't tell what you think you are trying to say?

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