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Excuses Seminar


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My college is having an interesting seminar. You can learn why sending people to hell, killing children, neglecting people's suffering, and more are fucking awesome. I'm shocked they'd explicitly single out problems people have with Christianity. I find it almost an admission of defeat to say that people have problems with those. I also know exactly what they will argue before it even starts. Sing it with me, "All sins are equal, God's just honoring your free will, those children would have grown up to be evil, the suffering is for the greater good, God has a plan." Okay, that didn't rhyme, but it's still catchy. I wonder how many people will go to this seminar? Do other colleges have these seminars? I'd like to hear some opinions about this "excuses seminar".

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I don't remember mine ever having anything like this, but I also went to a more liberal college. Are you going to this dumb seminar b/c you have to, or out of morbid curiosity?

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I started my college journey at a Christian college. That was a "great" experience. They had things like this all the time. When I transferred to a secular college I don't remember things like that but I had a very labor intensive major and basically lived with my nose in a book studying and not having a life. Lol

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Seems to me a regular 'secular' college shouldn't favor any particular religion, that would be against the law.  Tell the ACLU.

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Seems to me a regular 'secular' college shouldn't favor any particular religion, that would be against the law.  Tell the ACLU.

 

Well, secular colleges can have student groups that sponsor all sorts of talks, as long as all student groups are welcome to do so. Sometimes the athiest and christan groups would get together and bring in some bigger-named people for a debate. And the muslims and buddhists and pagans and anyone else who does the right paperwork all get university money too. Most of the student organizations weren't religious, but the university didn't really ban anyone who did the right red tape. I think we even had the student organization for the Eaters of Tasty Pizza for a while, until the paperwork lapsed. So if it's that kind of set up, I don't see an issue with it.

 

Or if it's an off-campus group who's rented the space and then is advertising on campus, that happens too. I know some student organizations help out outside groups by being sponsors and getting student-org price cheap or free space. As long as no one is falsely claiming to represent the views of the institution, or other groups are denied space based on religious reasons, I don't see a problem.

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Thought it was something the college was doing according to the OP.  Sure, if it's student organization or outside groups then they can do it.  Maybe some kids will have a seminar to respond to this proselytizing.  Something like honoring diversity and pointing out the lack of respect in implying that everyone needs to believe in your particular religion (religious tolerance and respecting diversity).

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Our college Christian group would occasionally sponsor an event with some guy named Cliff. They'd draw students in with free food and an "Ask Cliff" headline. But I noticed that "Cliff" maintained control over the microphone, so true debate was, in a practical sense, impossible. You'll see this in other contexts, wherein the "moderator" retains the power to cut off anyone else. Talk radio is good at this.

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I think it's Chi Alpha (the Assemblies of God campus ministry) sponsored. They claim the seminar will be "interactive". I wonder if that means you're allowed to rebut the hell, genocide, bullshit science, ect justifications or you're only allowed to ask the questions?

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I think it's Chi Alpha (the Assemblies of God campus ministry) sponsored. They claim the seminar will be "interactive". I wonder if that means you're allowed to rebut the hell, genocide, bullshit science, ect justifications or you're only allowed to ask the questions?

I wouldn't expect anything from the Assemblies of god but rigid adherence to doctrine, a bit of light-duty legalism,  a good deal of self-righteousness sprinkled liberally with hypocrisy, and if you're really lucky a hefty dash of "lalalalalal I can't hear you!"  It will almost certainly be an affair wherein the "moderator" controls the entire conversation.

 

Thirty years of my life was wasted in the A.O.G.  Time that would have been better spent watching the grass grow.

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