Castiel233 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 You have faith that God loves you........ You have faith that the Blood of Christ has washed you clean You have faith that you are saved and are of the elect You have faith that God cares for you.......... You get run over, breaking both your legs and snapping your wrists in two and its all "Phone me an ambulance" Where does your faith meet reality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gall Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 You have faith that God loves you........ You have faith that the Blood of Christ has washed you clean You have faith that you are saved and are of the elect You have faith that God cares for you.......... You get run over, breaking both your legs and snapping your wrists in two and its all "Phone me an ambulance" Where does your faith meet reality? they have faith that god will pay the doctors bill??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pratt Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 god will provide doctors and good samaritians, ,,,,, if he forgets to provide these, god wants you home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel233 Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 To add to my own OP The whole Christ's blood washing us clean-eewwwwwwww Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhim Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 To add to my own OP The whole Christ's blood washing us clean-eewwwwwwww Not related to any of this, but back when I was a Christian my argument against transubstantiation was that no Catholic really believed it. If you really believed that you were drinking human blood, would you sip from the cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinas Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 To add to my own OP The whole Christ's blood washing us clean-eewwwwwwww Not related to any of this, but back when I was a Christian my argument against transubstantiation was that no Catholic really believed it. If you really believed that you were drinking human blood, would you sip from the cup? Dunno. I eat black pudding. Pig's blood, admittedly, but still blood... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
◊ crazyguy123 ◊ Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 To add to my own OP The whole Christ's blood washing us clean-eewwwwwwww Not related to any of this, but back when I was a Christian my argument against transubstantiation was that no Catholic really believed it. If you really believed that you were drinking human blood, would you sip from the cup? Since Jesus was supposedly a god in human form, if they believed they were drinking actual blood they would probably think that it is magical, since it came from a god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted November 24, 2014 Super Moderator Share Posted November 24, 2014 To add to my own OP The whole Christ's blood washing us clean-eewwwwwwww Not related to any of this, but back when I was a Christian my argument against transubstantiation was that no Catholic really believed it. If you really believed that you were drinking human blood, would you sip from the cup? Dunno. I eat black pudding. Pig's blood, admittedly, but still blood... I love black pudding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 When my mom died when I was 18 I quit praying cold turkey and quit believing so intensely. It just wasn't fun any more, like a kid's game and then when the bad thing happened it was like, "time to quit playing and go home." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybaris Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 god will provide doctors and good samaritians, ,,,,, if he forgets to provide these, god wants you home When you enlist the thoughts of the imaginary there is always a way out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipVanWinkle Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 amateur: Did you become a Xtian after you were 18? If not you wee lucky to get out early. Rip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhim Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 To add to my own OP The whole Christ's blood washing us clean-eewwwwwwww Not related to any of this, but back when I was a Christian my argument against transubstantiation was that no Catholic really believed it. If you really believed that you were drinking human blood, would you sip from the cup? Dunno. I eat black pudding. Pig's blood, admittedly, but still blood... I love black pudding. I'm vegetarian, but to each his own! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Furball Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Spend your whole life serving god, and god will take care of everything else you will need. yeah sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted November 25, 2014 Super Moderator Share Posted November 25, 2014 To add to my own OP The whole Christ's blood washing us clean-eewwwwwwww Not related to any of this, but back when I was a Christian my argument against transubstantiation was that no Catholic really believed it. If you really believed that you were drinking human blood, would you sip from the cup? Dunno. I eat black pudding. Pig's blood, admittedly, but still blood... I love black pudding. I'm vegetarian, but to each his own! I don't eat it anymore because I've cut out red meat and pork. Plus, it's kind of hard to find here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gall Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 god will provide doctors and good samaritians, ,,,,, if he forgets to provide these, god wants you home then why even bother sending you to earth in the first place. Just keep them in heavens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 amateur: Did you become a Xtian after you were 18? If not you wee lucky to get out early. Rip It's complicated! My parents were agnostic but we attended a stodgy Methodist church with very nice people in it, kind of dully, middle-class liberal. My mom always warned us not to take religion too seriously; her parents refused to enter a church after coming to the US from the Old Country in the 1920's (bringing my mom as a baby with them). So in my early teens, I rebelled by becoming Born Again (never really told my family), and took it really seriously up until she died when I was 18; then, like I said, I quit praying and quit taking it seriously because it just seemed like life had become too real with my mom's death and I was done playing, which is all it came to feel like for me. God had certainly never spoken to me or answered a prayer; I pretty much realized I had been talking to myself and getting myself worked up as a hormonally-overcharged teenage girl! Then over the decades I drifted around between agnosticism and some belief, but with tons of unanswered questions. I didn't really believe, but didn't mind attending church and helping out with various activities (I've always enjoyed that). I have no issues with trying to be loving and kind and forgiving, which the stodgy Presby church I attended as an adult pushed, and which never really pushed the concept of hell or any of the various atrocities of the bible. I tried getting answers to my questions from actually trying to sometimes pay attention to sermons but I always found them ultimately using some kind of circular logic, or just trying TOO HARD to convince us that xianity is REAL! I finally found a book a bit over a year ago that, to me, explained where the concept of gods came from as consciousness emerged in humans, and I was finally satisfied with an answer (my dad's answer had always been that religion was invented by people to explain why we were here and to make death seem ok, but even that never really fully answered the questions for me). At that point I became a total atheist and feel very content that we are just here for our little bit and it's all kind of amazing. My kids, as young adults, have turned out to be unbelievers, which makes me proud. They are also very respectful of other people in regards to their religions, which also makes me proud. Like my parents, my ex-husband (who's always been an atheist) and I took our kids to church until we divorced when they were in their early teens, like we both had been raised, but we always tried to answer their questions as well as we could, never with "because God" answers, and I was always willing to say "I don't know" like my dad used to, if I really didn't know. The internet has definitely made life easier to get some reasonable answers! To sum it up, I was raised more with "live and let live" as far as religion, politics, and most lifestyles. My dad's favorite saying was "I'm a lover, not a fighter," and my mom's telling us to "not take religion too seriously" was as radical as my family got! I knew why my grandparents wouldn't attend church (they died when I was a preschooler) but they simply didn't attend, they made no noise about it. Sorry it took so long for me to answer, Rip! I don't have a computer, so I rely on free time and getting to the library to use their computers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Furball Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 You have faith that God loves you........ You have faith that the Blood of Christ has washed you clean You have faith that you are saved and are of the elect You have faith that God cares for you.......... You get run over, breaking both your legs and snapping your wrists in two and its all "Phone me an ambulance" Where does your faith meet reality? Faith and reality can never meet because reality and magical thinking never went hand in hand. Solid post though, and sadly, it is the truth. -me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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