Popular Post EyesOpened Posted April 3, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2015 How many of you have been invaded with that question i put in the title of my post. Very personal and invading question, isn't it? Hello everyone, my name is Dan. I am 42 years old and finally admitting that i DO NOT believe in God,god,or gods! This took me nearly 25 years to not feel guilty about this. Here is a little about my past. Christian home (free will baptists), parents very religious, 3 brothers and 2 sisters also very much so. I am the second to youngest. I think i started doubting in a god when i was 14 years old, that was back in the mid 1980s to you and me. Every time i asked the question who made god? or how old is god? I received the answer" He always was or no one made him, He is the alpha and the omega". Those answers just never sat well with me. There was zero proof of this. Another big one for me was how can all these different cultures come from one man and one woman? Geneticly speaking wouldnt we all have major defects by now from inbreading? I have seen what one or two generations get from this, now what about 6000 years or so of it? The more i looked for answers, the more questions i found. At this point in my life i have finally shaken the guilt of questioning god or even the existance of a said creature. I am looking forward to doing a lot of reading and posting on this site. Looks like lots of valuble info here. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Welcome to the forum, E. I'm glad you are finally feeling comfortable with yourself and your own thoughts. Good for you. You are right about that question. It's just one of the many ways Christians frame the whole debate so that they appear to start off as the truth. They stack the deck in people's hearts and minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeThinkerNZ Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Welcome, Eyes. We're so glad you're here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦ ficino ♦ Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Welcome, Eyes! Jesus in the gospel tells his listeners that some who are standing there will see him return in glory. Didn't happen. False prophecy. False prophets are to be stoned, acc. to the Torah. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duderonomy Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Hello Eyestryingtoopen, welcome to Ex-C! That was some great opening post. I think most everyone here has heard that line a few times, and some of us even said it to others. As a fellow ex-C, I know what you mean about the guilty feelings. I'm glad you got past that, no matter how long it took you. By the way, it looks like you already have a nickname of sorts. If you don't want to be called Eyes for as long as you're here, you'd better speak up now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesOpened Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 Hello Eyestryingtoopen, welcome to Ex-C! That was some great opening post. I think most everyone here has heard that line a few times, and some of us even said it to others. As a fellow ex-C, I know what you mean about the guilty feelings. I'm glad you got past that, no matter how long it took you. By the way, it looks like you already have a nickname of sorts. If you don't want to be called Eyes for as long as you're here, you'd better speak up now! Eyes or Dan is just fine. Whatever is easier for people to remember. Thank you all for the warm welcome. I am really looking forward to talking to all of you. This forum is a diamond in the rough and i really hope more people find this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Hey Dan. Welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluechipx Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Hello Dan, I totally understand your statement about it taking 25 years to completely leave your childhood taught beliefs behind, it took me at least 6-7 years to rid myself of the last lingering beliefs. I thought I was over it in three years, but when asked if I could burn a bible, I was reluctant to answer. I've kind of moved into the anti-theist position in the last few years. My first inkling of trouble with bible beliefs was the concept of God, the supposed most intelligent, all knowing entity in the universe making one way to him, Jesus, and then not filling most of the world in on this supposed fact. The American Indians had around sixty generations be born, live and die without ever having a clue to this 'only way'. I'm just a normal guy and I think I could have figured out a way of letting EVERYONE in on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesOpened Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 Hello Dan, I totally understand your statement about it taking 25 years to completely leave your childhood taught beliefs behind, it took me at least 6-7 years to rid myself of the last lingering beliefs. I thought I was over it in three years, but when asked if I could burn a bible, I was reluctant to answer. I've kind of moved into the anti-theist position in the last few years. My first inkling of trouble with bible beliefs was the concept of God, the supposed most intelligent, all knowing entity in the universe making one way to him, Jesus, and then not filling most of the world in on this supposed fact. The American Indians had around sixty generations be born, live and die without ever having a clue to this 'only way'. I'm just a normal guy and I think I could have figured out a way of letting EVERYONE in on it. Hello Jeff and BC. Thanks for the welcome. I agree BC that if there was a something as powerful as God that there would be no question or confusion to his/hers/its existence. It almost makes you wonder if the christian version of god has a certain amount of arrogance and doesnt feel the need to show up for lesser beings like us. Again, thanks for the welcome everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinas Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I think if someone asked me that I'd be tempted to reply with something along the lines of "How will you explain to Lucifer that you backed the wrong horse?". Anyhow, welcome. Both to this site and to a life free of unnecessary and (in its most extreme form) crippling guilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disillusioned Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Welcome Dan. This is an awesome place. I think you'll fit in well. Regarding the question in the title: when the zombie apocalypse comes, it's every man for himself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
◊ crazyguy123 ◊ Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 How many of you have been invaded with that question i put in the title of my post. Very personal and invading question, isn't it? If I ever happen to be asked this question by a believer, this will be my response: "Side? I am on nobody's side, because nobody is on my side, little Orc." -Treebeard. Of course, if the Christian asking the question happens to be bigger than I am, I may have to slightly modify the quote. Welcome to the site though, Dan. It sounds like you have come to the right place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00LukeMan Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 As a fan of Supernatural, I would say I'm on the side of regular people. Team Free Will all the way! Welcome Daneyes! Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoodAwakening Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Hey Dan, welcome to the forums! I heard that question thundered out a million times from the pulpit of every church I attended throughout the years. I now simply substitute "Osiris", "Thor", or "The Tooth Fairy" for "Lord" in that quote. They all have equal credibility and equal likelihood of fomenting and staging a big "return". Have fun while you're here - there is indeed some great information available on these pages. Congrats on making it this far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeCycle Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 If God is real and Lucifer is real, I'll definitely side with Lucifer when Jesus comes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deidre Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Yup, it all resonates what you're saying. Welcome, and enjoy your time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Furball Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Neither one is real, so i side with reality. Welcome to Ex-C! I see that you restore cars, i would love to see some pics if you have the time to post. If you do, please post them in the totally off topic section of this website. Thanks EO, and again, welcome. -Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesOpened Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 Neither one is real, so i side with reality. Welcome to Ex-C! I see that you restore cars, i would love to see some pics if you have the time to post. If you do, please post them in the totally off topic section of this website. Thanks EO, and again, welcome. -Cat Thanks CC I will put some pics out. I also have a photobucket account with the cars i have done(most of which i have kept, lol). And i totally agree with your answer with the post. At first when i finally came to the realization there was no God i was very angry at "Him". Then i thought, wait a second, how can i be mad at something that doesn't exist. That is when i figured out that it isn't "God" i was angry it, it was myself. That just goes to show you how bad the brainwashing was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurari Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 This is basically like asking me if I'm on Team Jacob or Team Edward. I don't care. If someone asked me this question in all seriousness I'd probably just stare at them like they had three heads and excuse myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Neither one is real, so i side with reality. Welcome to Ex-C! I see that you restore cars, i would love to see some pics if you have the time to post. If you do, please post them in the totally off topic section of this website. Thanks EO, and again, welcome. -Cat Thanks CC I will put some pics out. I also have a photobucket account with the cars i have done(most of which i have kept, lol). And i totally agree with your answer with the post. At first when i finally came to the realization there was no God i was very angry at "Him". Then i thought, wait a second, how can i be mad at something that doesn't exist. That is when i figured out that it isn't "God" i was angry it, it was myself. That just goes to show you how bad the brainwashing was. Well, you may wish to save some of that anger for the trusted adults that indoctrinated you into their particular religion and instilled peer pressure on you to conform. Of course, you can let that anger go if you find that those trusted adults were, in turn, indoctrinated and peer pressured by a prior generation of trusted adults, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesOpened Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 Neither one is real, so i side with reality. Welcome to Ex-C! I see that you restore cars, i would love to see some pics if you have the time to post. If you do, please post them in the totally off topic section of this website. Thanks EO, and again, welcome. -Cat Thanks CC I will put some pics out. I also have a photobucket account with the cars i have done(most of which i have kept, lol). And i totally agree with your answer with the post. At first when i finally came to the realization there was no God i was very angry at "Him". Then i thought, wait a second, how can i be mad at something that doesn't exist. That is when i figured out that it isn't "God" i was angry it, it was myself. That just goes to show you how bad the brainwashing was. Well, you may wish to save some of that anger for the trusted adults that indoctrinated you into their particular religion and instilled peer pressure on you to conform. Of course, you can let that anger go if you find that those trusted adults were, in turn, indoctrinated and peer pressured by a prior generation of trusted adults, etc. Religion (baptist) has been in my family for generations. Just from talking with my father, i can see how he was brainwashed the same way he was doing it to us(my brothers and sisters). I did go through a spell where i was kind of angry with my parents for this. Later on in life i noticed how ignorant he was about it. My mother was just going along for the ride like a good Xtian would. I chalk it up to ignorance on their part. Instead of being angry, i will use that energy to warn as many people as i can about this fraud and hopefully help them get out of religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Neither one is real, so i side with reality. Welcome to Ex-C! I see that you restore cars, i would love to see some pics if you have the time to post. If you do, please post them in the totally off topic section of this website. Thanks EO, and again, welcome. -Cat Thanks CC I will put some pics out. I also have a photobucket account with the cars i have done(most of which i have kept, lol). And i totally agree with your answer with the post. At first when i finally came to the realization there was no God i was very angry at "Him". Then i thought, wait a second, how can i be mad at something that doesn't exist. That is when i figured out that it isn't "God" i was angry it, it was myself. That just goes to show you how bad the brainwashing was. Well, you may wish to save some of that anger for the trusted adults that indoctrinated you into their particular religion and instilled peer pressure on you to conform. Of course, you can let that anger go if you find that those trusted adults were, in turn, indoctrinated and peer pressured by a prior generation of trusted adults, etc. Religion (baptist) has been in my family for generations. Just from talking with my father, i can see how he was brainwashed the same way he was doing it to us(my brothers and sisters). I did go through a spell where i was kind of angry with my parents for this. Later on in life i noticed how ignorant he was about it. My mother was just going along for the ride like a good Xtian would. I chalk it up to ignorance on their part. Instead of being angry, i will use that energy to warn as many people as i can about this fraud and hopefully help them get out of religion. So if this is the case, why would you have been angry with yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesOpened Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 I think it was a chain reaction. I went through a short time when i was angry with the non existant being for not existing, i realized that is kind of stupid to be mad at something that didn't even exist. So, i looked into it more and realised the anger was both at me and my parents. My parent for subjecting me to religion in the first place and myself for believing all the hocus pocus. Now i see religion for what it is. Some people escape the deception and some don't. I was angry with myself for being so blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burny Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Welcome to freedom Dan. Only now will you realize what really being free is all about! And it's a wonderful life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesOpened Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 Welcome to freedom Dan. Only now will you realize what really being free is all about! And it's a wonderful life. Thanks Burny. It feels great to have the excess baggage of lies removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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