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The Spell Been Broken For Good!


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I'm glad you are doing better.

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BlackCat, good to have you back. And thank you so much for sharing your thoughts today. I can relate to it very much. I continued going to church because I wanted it to be true and i wanted to see all my loved ones in the afterlife. I searched for another form of 'god of the universe' until I was blue in the face. It seems after we  start questioning different things, we do develop a 'bullshitometer' (LOVE that!!)  and it seems to go off about a whole lot of things in life. I can generally spot bullshit a mile away now.....

 

We are in this together. Hang in there and I'm really glad you are doing well right now. If you're not, you know we'll be here for you!!

 

I also go very slow with loved ones and friends when they ask me (sincerely of course) why I am not a believer anymore. One of my dear friends who we travel with came out of the closet because of me and now he's a monster!! Lol He wants the whole world to know and I'm trying to tell him to slow down. Lol

 

Looking forward to hearing more from you!!

 

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I'm happy for you having this new zeal for life. That's wonderful.

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Thank you for the warm replies.  biggrin.png 

 

I'm enjoying catching up on some of the threads.  I look forward to sharing more with you guys. Thanks again. wink.png

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Hi BlackCat, I'm totally new here, but I think I'm right where you used to be! My posts have pretty much been all about worries/desires that have me reeling. (Such as end times prophecy, the afterlife, etc.)

 

I'm glad to see this is part of the process, and I'm not just going crazy! I'm not ready to let go, I can admit that, but my inner most being is gently nudging me to just go through the grief and let it go without wasting more time.

 

Thanks for the encouragement!

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Welcome back.  Glad you've found your zest for life.

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The spell that was cast over me (and millions of others) is I believe a real 'spell'.  By that I mean it is a combination of indoctrination, psychological abuse and hypnotic-type processes that the religious leaders use to cast the spell over you.  As such, I am careful in how I fight that spell in my loved ones.  If I tried to wake them up against their will, it could do more harm than good, and so I am planting small seeds. 

 

 

I like how you said that, BlackCat.  Religion is definitely a combination of those things you mentioned above, and it does take time to untangle oneself from them.  I spent decades as an agnostic because it was so hard to just look it all straight in the eye and say, "Bullshit!"  Intellectually, I didn't believe, but it's so hard to over-come childhood indoctrination, even in my case, a very mild indoctrination that wasn't pushed by my parents.  But children trust the adults in their lives that tell them these things, and it's up to the adults to know the truth.

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Yes Amateur, it is hard to overcome the indoctrination.  I was reminded by another member of how Richard Dawkins likens it to a virus.  The virus is passed on from parents to children, new generations being infected.   I'm sure in my case, that because I have been able to check things via the internet, I have been able to break the spell.  And of course talking to good folk like yourself. biggrin.png

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Glad you've broken into the "I'M FREE" stage of deconversion! This is the best stage. Make sure you keep reading and studying and have a top 10 list of why you don't believe in God, because you will experience doubts again some day - most of us do.

 

Dan Denett's "Breaking the Spell" is a great read.

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Good suggestions Burny.  Thank you.  That book sounds good.  Logging onto Amazon.........................

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Yeah Black Cat!  You're alive!  You're alive!  Take in the sun!  Enjoy the quiet of the night.  Do what YOU want, when YOU want, where YOU want, with who YOU want, however YOU wish to do; limited only by having empathy for others and the social wall put up by believers who YOU desire to maintain a relationship with. 

 

Don't look back.  A new day has dawned for you.  It's been too long since you felt this way. Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy, live, and enjoy some more girl!

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Absolutely, ConsiderTheSource.  Thank you. :)

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Welcome back, BlackCat!  I was away for awhile, too, though our reasons are different.  I had a lot of overtime at work and was working towards new goals I'd set for myself (also trying to cut back on net) and just wanted to be completely away from any hints of religion for awhile.  So happy to see you're still around;  those topics you created and the friendly vack and forth between you and BAA helped me a lot in my first stages of deconversion. So very thrilled you're still around and I'm happy you figured things out for yourself, sometimes going back and forth just becomes part of our journey in life. 10.gif

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Hi Kolaida,

 

thank you for your kind words and welcome back. biggrin.png  It's good to know that some of my replies on here have been of help to others.  Looking forward to exchanging ideas with you on here.  Love your comments about going back and forth.  That has been so true for me.  I've been in and out of Christianity a few times over the years.  Each time though, the hold gets weaker.  I'm sure it's a natural process for some of us, as you suggest. wink.png  My daughter is at that stage where she still wants it to be real, but knows in her heart it's probably (her view) not real.  Her friend from church admitted to not stirring the sh*t (I think she worded it more like 'not digging too deep') as she would have no purpose really, if it was all false.  It seems there are many 'Christians' who are kidding themselves.  I know I did for a long time. 

 

Thanks again kolaida. biggrin.png

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