amateur Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Make sure when you paint it that Jesus' eyes follow everybody! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Ravenstar, It seems like his original 1950's style logo as well as the idea to put a picture of Jesus on his truck are both bad business ideas. Perhaps you could mention that in a subtle way and help him find a third alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fweethawt Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 You could also say that you don't feel comfortable creating an image of our lord and saviour jesus christ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overcame Faith Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Hi, Ravenstar, I like the way you are being proactive in trying to get business. That will be very helpful to you. Here are a few things I have learned over the years. Some of these have already been addressed by others. 1. Make sure you have a written agreement which spells out the details. Some of those details should be to describe what you will be doing, the total cost of the work and payment schedule (i.e., 50% at the signing and the remaining 50% upon completion of the job), whether there is a warranty and the time limit on the warranty, and start date and estimated completion date. Also, if you are designing the logo for your customer, who owns the copyright? I would assume most businesses want to own the logo's copyright and maybe even have it registered as a trademark. But I would think you would want to reserve the right to display it in your portfolio, webpage, etc., as an example of your work. You should have a provision in your agreement addressing that issue. Both you and the customer should sign the agreement and make sure you keep a copy of it (you'd be surprised at how many business people do not keep copies of important documents). 2. Make sure you photograph your work. That will help you in promoting your business, but will serve another important purpose. If the customer should complain about something later, that photo will be your evidence of what you turned over to your customer. 3. My experience has been that most people who put heavy emphasis on their Christianity in their business dealings are the absolute worst customers you can imagine. 4. The average person does not appreciate how much time, thought, and work goes into making a creative product. They often think it takes just a little time to slap something together. Therefore, when you quote a price, you may want to elaborate a little about what you will be doing so the customer sees what goes into doing the work. Good luck with your business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenaissanceWoman Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 My opinion: he's a hack and a wanna-be entrepreneur. I've seen a LOT of Christians attempt to start some ridiculous business in some attempt to "spread the word" because "Gawd gave them a vision" or some other stupid reason like that. Great observation. Looking back, many years ago on two separate occasions I helped guys start businesses like this. Both were for home cleaning/maid services. You make me realize that this line of work is actually low-skilled and requires little startup cost, sort of like Ravenstar's guy with a truck. You might be on to something here -- a seemingly easy business that god is going to make easy for them. But no, I don't know where those two guys are now, or if their businesses survived or anything. Curious concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slave2six Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Putting the face of a homeless guy on a moving company logo just seems wrong to me. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenaissanceWoman Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Putting the face of a homeless guy on a moving company logo just seems wrong to me. Took me a second, but then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenstar Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 He did it… (on his website) ahahahahahaha. TOO funny No, he never got back to me (and I'm grateful), but if you want to check out his new logo.. it's here: www.suprememovers.ca Thank you all for the amazing advice! ps… I did send a note to Canstock, about their graphic (they are pretty clear about their stuff being used as logos or trademarks). They can do what they like about it… it's off my conscience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator florduh Posted May 28, 2015 Super Moderator Share Posted May 28, 2015 Our "Principals?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Jesus has such finely chiseled cheekbones and such a well trimmed beard; and so tall like a European. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraphicsGuy Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I'm surprised that his website and logo are that clean. I don't think he's charging enough to do all the charity work he wants to do. I wish his motives weren't Christian-based, but I'll actually wish him luck on achieving his goal(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenaissanceWoman Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I'm wondering who he got to do his website, and for what small price. Probably conned some kid at his church or something. And the logo, OMG. What a laugh. Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sylensikeelyoo Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I agree with everyone here. That's a copywrited image and you could try explaining that to him,..maybe suggest to him an image of movers but with a cross or some type of religious symbol thrown in there. There's a huge market for christian businesses, and explaining to your client that throwing subtle, non-copywrited images and symbols may be the better way to go. I hope the dude will listen to reason, as he appears insane, but you can't always judge based on your first impression. Thanks for sharing. I laughed so hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
older Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Looks like a pre-fab website to me. He just filled in the copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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