Lilith666 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I learned this today in Sunday School--I'm in college but hang out there anyway because the section for adults is even more boring than the one for teenagers. Speaker was talking about money and using it responsibly--"from a biblical perspective," of course!--because without gawd we would be getting pregnant while unmarried in our teens, and throwing money away however we wanted. Yep, he said that people who don't seek gawd's help end up with three kids at 19 and no spouse. He also provided pointers for spending money: if you're out shopping and it's 3 PM, and the store closes at 5 and you see something you want, don't buy it right away. (Okay, maybe good so far.) Go to a quiet corner to pray, and if after you've talked with the holy spirit about this thing you want and he has communicated his approval, you can think about purchasing it. Speaker did not neglect to remind the middle/high schoolers that ten percent of anything they earn gets donated to gawd, before they spend any of it. I suppose this could include donating to the Salvation Army, but I have a problem with adults telling kids that they need to give their money to "gawd" (church is currently paying off loans for the new windows). There's a sign in the sanctuary showing how close they are to finishing this. Let your gawd-vibes control your budget, kids, and don't forget you owe gawd ten percent out of your gross income to help pay for those pretty new windows. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraphicsGuy Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I'd like to see that "teacher's" house and family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llwellyn Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Sayeth the God: "Get a good job with good pay and you're okay. Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sylensikeelyoo Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Lol I can soooo relate. I used to go to a church where people believed the same bullshit. Pray about what to eat, what to buy, even what to think. God is the only beacon of morality in this dark world and anyone who doesn't know God doesn't know morality. As a believer, you basically have to look to God for every single decision you make or else you may be sinning and not know it. Yeah. It wasn't long before I got myself kicked outta that church. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilith666 Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 @sylensikeelyoo: Oh my gosh yes. They love to emphasize that God needs to be first in your life in absolutely everything you do. In every marriage or relationship, Jesus has to be the most important one. (They must have some interesting three-ways.) Every single aspect of your Christ-centered life must bring glory to gawd. Check everything you do for sin--and also assume you are sinning and ask gawd to cleanse you. Anyone get repeated admonishments in sermons that "we must ask him to purify our hearts of ______"? That's one reason I'm glad I'm out--the cult wants to control everything you do and make you feel guilty for not being completely obsessed with Jesus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Why do you go to Sunday School? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duderonomy Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Did the Sunday School teacher mention that God had sex with an underage girl that was engaged to another, and His only Son was born out of wedlock, or that Jesus had two daddies? Oh, and the windows. Did you ever see a church without a "building fund"? It's God's house, but we buy the windows and the roof, and still give him (through the church of course) ten percent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Jeff Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I have several very religious relatives. One of my aunts actually prays at the grocery store about which package of meat to buy. And who knows what else she prays about? Probably absolutely everything... I can totally relate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sylensikeelyoo Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 @sylensikeelyoo: Oh my gosh yes. They love to emphasize that God needs to be first in your life in absolutely everything you do. In every marriage or relationship, Jesus has to be the most important one. (They must have some interesting three-ways.) Every single aspect of your Christ-centered life must bring glory to gawd. Check everything you do for sin--and also assume you are sinning and ask gawd to cleanse you. Anyone get repeated admonishments in sermons that "we must ask him to purify our hearts of ______"? That's one reason I'm glad I'm out--the cult wants to control everything you do and make you feel guilty for not being completely obsessed with Jesus. totally know what you mean sweetie. i am glad to be breaking free as well. you may be further ahead than I. from time to time, i still experience bouts of fear and sadness and i know its the mental programming I went through. I hate how they used my faith to manipulate and control me, and they did their best to subdue my intellect and thirst for knowledge. didn't work tho. looks like we are peas in a pod, Lilith.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller2 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 How to begin a long mental health problem starting in ur teens 101.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller2 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Sayeth the God: "Get a good job with good pay and you're okay. Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash." That's Pink Floyd isn't it? Loved them before I got saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilith666 Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 @sdelsdolray: I just go to church for the heck of it. Hang out with kids I used to talk to. And see my friend's baby; she's adorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 @sdelsdolray: I just go to church for the heck of it. Hang out with kids I used to talk to. And see my friend's baby; she's adorable. Thanks. Just curious about why you would attend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilith666 Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 @duderonomy: No, they only talk about the nice-sounding things. When I was 15-17 I was pretty confrontational about things like the massacres and slavery. They were surprisingly willing to talk about it and try to answer my challenges, but they would not outwardly admit that any of it was wrong. Just trust God, he knows best. They liked to skip around or ignore or justify the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Well, at least the elders in the church got together and prayed in a corner before ordering the new windows, and the holy spirit said that putting a huge amount of money, including a loan, into those new windows was preferable to sending that money directly to people in need or starving children. If the holy spirit endorses it, it is true, so very true. So very sad that this bullshit gets drilled into children and young adults. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCM Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 (incoming message from god "you humans are so worthless you can't even dress yourselves without me") when did people start putting up with this bullshit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilith666 Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 Hahaha amateur. Yes SCM it's ridiculous. You have to let God pick your clothes, budget your money, spend your money, decide what TV you watch, what music you listen to. Everything you do must "honor God" (one of those buzzwords I'm tired of). I started this thread to talk about how the Sunday School teacher said that without God, we would be three-time unmarried parents at 19 (the point being that we need God to guide us to do everything. Which ties in to the current discussion). But I got off-track and ranted about the church controlling kids' money. The "immoral and irresponsible" label that non-Xians get stuck with by Xians happens elsewhere too. My dad likes to listen to Glenn Beck, the conservative radio host, who is known for being pretty loud in his opinions and sometimes harsh. Well, my uncle announced that Beck has become less so recently because he accepted Christ into his heart. And the holy spirit changed his attitude. Ha. Dad knows I'm not Christian, but still likes to tell stories like the one about the Christian girl at a liberal college whose atheist professor changed her A's to B's when he discovered she was Christian. He couldn't remember where he heard this, when I asked. Those atheists. They just don't quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 They lie. Often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOutsider Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 They lie. Often. They also eagerly buy the lies that support their views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 We would not just be three-times, unmarried parents (with three different partners) by age 19, but we'd also be heroin addicted porn stars that rob banks and kill babies for dinner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCM Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Based on what christians say atheists do, I expected a satanic orgy as part of the atheism welcome package. feel like I missed out now. I don't think many christians understand atheist morality, always asking if god doesn't exist, how come your aren't stamping on babies right now? kinda scary that human empathy, doing good to your neighbor so he will do good to you and the contract of society are foreign concepts to them. that's probably a whole other discussion though. Fun line from my high school, "if you try drugs or sex once you will become a male prostitute". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConscientiousObjector Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Angus, that was "Money" by Pink Floyd that Llywelln posted. Loved them since childhood! Music was always the "sin" that got me into trouble with Christians, and I was totally unabashed about my love for it. I got the whole "You must listen to music that glorifies god" spiel more times than I can count. It got really bad when I went through a Marilyn Manson phase in high school. Golly, all the Christian kids thought I was eeeviil. I had this one girl spend an entire lunch break trying to convice me that I would go straight to hell unless I burned all my albums and T-shirts, and confessed my sins to god. Pretty sure she was just fishing for another notch on her "saved heathen" stick! Poor girl, I hated to disappoint her... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova999 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I swear a lot of christians I know are just as materialistic if not more so than nonchristians. Supposedly Christ comes first but really it is all about cars, houses, clothes, fancy trips, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConscientiousObjector Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Agreed, supernova! And lets not forget the big, damn, glitzy multi-million dollar super churches, cuz god wants all his "houses" to be worthy of his glory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova999 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Don't get me started! We already have a church on every street corner but there is ALWAYS room for one more. Not even talking about fancy churches. We have these small little towns out in the middle of nowhere and you still see them building new churches. Beats me where are all these people are coming from to even fill up them up maybe twice a week! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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