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Go Home, Moses! That Bush Isn't Burning Or Talking, You're Tripping!


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http://higherperspectives.com/moses-dmt/

 

Here is the wiki page describing DMT, a hallucinogen:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine

 

 

While this short article is merely conjecture, it describes something I've often pondered: could miracles from the bible be cases of mass delusion or hallucinations, drug-induced or otherwise? I know that many religions throughout history have utilized drugs to achieve a spiritual awakening, why not Christianity? Another thing I've considered (as I'm sure many of you have as well), what if the bible is simply a complicated, prolonged version of the phone game? Is it possible that Noah's Ark really happened, albeit on a much smaller scale? Perhaps a localized flood, a family and their livestock on a raft for a few days or weeks, exaggerated to biblical proportions? 

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How about the one where Elijah poured three buckets of "water" onto an offering and then prayed?  

 

Afterwards the offering burst into flames as if the "water" had been lighter fluid.  Very impressive to

 

a bronze age goat herder but not so impressive to anybody who has started a modern BBQ.

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Hey CO, funny you mention this as I am coming off my second peyote experience. I know others have proposed a psychedelic hypothesis for some of these "religious" experiences. I'm not sure DMT would be a candidate for the Moses story, given where usable DMT is typically found and used in the world. I've heard of mushroom stories and there are reasonable hypotheses regarding Greek cults that likely consumed psychoactive substances around the same "general" time frame Christianity was sprouting. However, many other concepts such as intense meditation, illness, stress, sleep deprivation and many other others need to be considered. Another consideration is simply dramatic story telling and of course, "historical plagiarism" of earlier tales.

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Funny how a priest in the OT would go into one of those temporary tents in the desert, burn incense, and see God in a cloud. Part of the recipe for the incense was a healthy dose of kaneh bosm, which we would call cannabis.  Moses instructed them to do this, and taught them how to, and why. That they bought into the "why" indicates to me that they were not quite as good at politics as Moses was.

 

There are better links than this one, but I wanted to throw in something...http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/potbible.htm

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So the Word came to Moses from the light emitted from a flammable object which didn't catch fire, what 's the big deal?

 

A story about the Bush in the Monitor.   bluegrab.gif

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So the Word came to Moses from the light emitted from a flammable object which didn't catch fire, what 's the big deal?

 

A story about the Bush in the Monitor.   :bluegrab:

That link isn't a story, just a pic.

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So the Word came to Moses from the light emitted from a flammable object which didn't catch fire, what 's the big deal?

 

A story about the Bush in the Monitor.   bluegrab.gif

 

Considering there is no way of actually knowing what happened, it's more likely Moses was on some drugs.

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