LadyNightingale Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I don't think I was ever truly comfortable being Christian. I was never comfortable with churches, groups, or camps. I did however have a love for learning apologetics from preachers. I focused on it obsessively on it; as I tend to do. In time, I found I didn't understand the logic internally much less reconciling it with reality. The result was being less angry. Don't get me wrong I'm still an asshole. I might be a slightly less angry ass, but still. I feel much better about being bisexual, having sex, swearing(swears were invented for a reason), and liking banned media. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyNightingale Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share Posted August 21, 2015 (Continued, I am on mobile and accidentally clicked submit.) But now after being outed as bi and everyone is certain I am the worst Christian ever, I now have to go to a religious treatment center. (I'll probably post about this in a different thread.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fweethawt Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I'm assuming you're a minor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyNightingale Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share Posted August 21, 2015 I'm embarrassed to say I am not. Like most college students from well to do families my mom provides for my education. And in my case I live with her. I wasn't sure what I wanted to do so I opted for community college. I however have a "life controlling issues" such as depression, ignoring the bible, and being bi. Granted, depression is a big problem for me but honestly, I've been currently more motivated since I now know what I want to do. I'm actually content. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator florduh Posted August 21, 2015 Super Moderator Share Posted August 21, 2015 Of course, you do not have to go to any religious treatment center. You're an adult. I always recommend to do the right thing, not the easy thing. You can't remain a dependent forever anyway so try to salvage your integrity and self respect before allowing family to destroy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disillusioned Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 You do what you think is best, but if it were me, I would not be going anywhere near a "treatment" center. You can make your own decisions. Being bi is not a problem. If your family doesn't accept you for who you are, then they don't deserve you. Yes, its harder to make it on your own, but like florduh said, the right choice is not always the easy one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midniterider Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Don't get me wrong I'm still an asshole. Well, thank goodness for that! You had me worried for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOutsider Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Count me as a plus one for avoiding any "religious treatment center" (That doesn't sound creepy at all...) like the plague... Life's too short to be exposed to what I can only imagine are aggressive brainwashing techniques. There is nothing wrong with you, besides depression, and I wouldn't trust anyone religiously motivated to help with that anyway. Then again, I'm severely allergic to ancient mythical bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midniterider Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I'm embarrassed to say I am not. Like most college students from well to do families my mom provides for my education. And in my case I live with her. I wasn't sure what I wanted to do so I opted for community college. I however have a "life controlling issues" such as depression, ignoring the bible, and being bi. Granted, depression is a big problem for me but honestly, I've been currently more motivated since I now know what I want to do. I'm actually content. The only problem might be depression, Bi is just an orientation. Ignoring the bible is the beginning of wisdom. Life greatly improves when you are no longer under your parents' thumb. Getting a job and moving out could be very helpful to lift your spirits. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sylensikeelyoo Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Welcome to Ex-C Lady! So great to have you with us. But yeah. You ain't gotta do shit. Don't go to that religious treatment facility! It's two thousand fucking fifteen, goddammit and its totally okay to be bi. In fact, you, me, and TF can stage a protest in which the three of us will bang right in the chapel of their stupid ass facility. We can just, like, have this orgy, and film it, and put it on porntube and call it "HEATHENS PROTEST ANTI GAY PSEUDO PSYCH FACILITY" It will be glorious. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCW Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Welcome to Ex-C, I think we all agree this religious "treatment" sounds like a pile of horse shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobCu Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 "a religious treatment center" Brainwashing is what keeps the idiotic Christian Death Cult from going extinct. The brainwashers are child abusers and they belong in prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
older Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 1. In addition to us, you can find support on your campus. There should be a women's center, LGBT group, or counseling center where you can get some face time when you need it. Go there and not to the "religious treatment center." At some point you will have to draw the line with your family and this might be the time. 2. Also go to the campus employment center and get some sort of job so your family can't use finances as a means of control. 3. Check into scholarships, too. Some are not conditioned on financial need. I have seen scholarships go un-awarded because no one applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinas Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 FIrstly, welcome. Secondly, arseholiness is a lot better than pseudo holiness. Thirdly, what on earth is a religious treatment centre, and why does the term make me feel an overwhelming urge to grab a large axe and stick it through the nearest altar cross? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sylensikeelyoo Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 FIrstly, welcome. Secondly, arseholiness is a lot better than pseudo holiness. Thirdly, what on earth is a religious treatment centre, and why does the term make me feel an overwhelming urge to grab a large axe and stick it through the nearest altar cross? ROFLMAOOO THIS. I'm outta upvotes for the day but yeah. This shit here....+++++UPVOTE+++++ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilith666 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Haha SIKY. I'm not an orgy person but I would protect you, Lady and TF from religious crazies and make signs n stuff. Lady, you don't have to go to this religious treatment center. You may think you do, because your mother supports you, but some parents will always find a reason why you should do what they want you to - because they are paying for college, because they raised you, because they brought you into existence. The list could go on. And if you don't believe you owe her your decisions, then don't act like you do. There must be support centers where you can find a job and temporary shelter if you need it. If you struggle with depression, the brainwashing-camp sure won't help. Imagine this: Your mother says to you, "Pack your bags. I'm taking you to Camp God Rocks" (or whatever the damn place is called). You say, "No." What is she going to do? Yell? You're an adult. Yelling shouldn't scare you. If it comes to kicking you out - though I don't know your mom, so you judge the likelihood of this - as I said, you can find support elsewhere. Stay with a friend, maybe. Keep us posted here. I would like to know how this works out. No one can tell you what to do, of course. Or even what the best option is, ultimately. We just want you to know that you aren't obligated to attend the re-education camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 (Continued, I am on mobile and accidentally clicked submit.) But now after being outed as bi and everyone is certain I am the worst Christian ever, I now have to go to a religious treatment center. (I'll probably post about this in a different thread.) You may wish to begin therapy with a secular mental health professional of your own choosing as an alternative to a religious treatment center (whatever that is). Surely, your mother cannot object to you using medical professionals to address your depression. It might go something like this, "Mom, I've decided to begin therapy with a mental health professional of my own choosing. My first appoitment is next week. I will not be going to the religious treatment center, but thanks for the suggestion." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyNightingale Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 First off I'd like to thank everyone for the warm welcome. I apologize for replying so late! I had to go out and see my grandpa, we didn't intend to stay so late! (Blargh, papa and his wife are unpleasant to visit.) FIrstly, welcome. Secondly, arseholiness is a lot better than pseudo holiness. Thirdly, what on earth is a religious treatment centre, and why does the term make me feel an overwhelming urge to grab a large axe and stick it through the nearest altar cross? ROFLMAOOO THIS. I'm outta upvotes for the day but yeah. This shit here....+++++UPVOTE+++++ Haha yeah sorry for the pretty much made up terminology. I call it that because I can explain it no better. In short this ministry is a place where young girls live and get help with life controlling issues. I want to use the ministries name but I don't want to be identified. Fun fact: this ministry handled my adoption. The suggestions and drive to my Grandpa's gave me something to think about. I really need to explain things further. I'll make a separate thread and post a link here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disillusioned Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Haha yeah sorry for the pretty much made up terminology. I call it that because I can explain it no better. In short this ministry is a place where young girls live and get help with life controlling issues. I want to use the ministries name but I don't want to be identified. Fun fact: this ministry handled my adoption. There was a place like this in the movie Saved!, if I recall correctly. "Mercy House", I think it was called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinas Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 It sounds like an instrument of psychological torture. Particularly in Christian hands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Don't get me wrong I'm still an asshole. Well, thank goodness for that! You had me worried for a second. I'm glad you're clinging to your assholeness! Welcome to the Happy Asshole Club! We have a rippin' good time here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyGoat Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Welcome here! I Don't have a lot to add that hasn't already been said. I too suffer from depression pretty bad, so I can more or less relate to that aspect. I can only imagine that this ministry will NOT help with that, particularly if you don't believe in their particular brand of crazy any more. A large part of my deconversion had to do with my depression learning to deal with it in a healthy and effective way. Spoilers, I found some awesome medications, which really help. Anyway, I wish you the best of luck navigating what sound like some pretty crazy waters. Just know that you have friends here that love you and support you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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