Fweethawt Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 http://www.techinsider.io/elon-musk-talks-fossil-fuels-with-wait-but-why-2015-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwc Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I agree with him. The Kardashians suck. mwc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Maybe we are not a smart species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midniterider Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Clean air and quiet battery powered drag racing. The Indy 100. The future will have a strange new landscape... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigile Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Maybe we are not a smart species. Relative to what? Perhaps, we just have a stupid economic system. Change the paradigm and the goals change. Even conservatives know system based on consumption is unsustainable. They just haven't applied their own logic in macro terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Elon Musk is not a real innovative guy, he is just a subsidy sucker and he employs smart people. He has people fooled into thinking he is the second coming of Henry Ford. It has nothing to do with Musk. The ideas matter, not the man who voiced them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Maybe we are not a smart species. Relative to what? Relative to the problems we face. Being the smartest ape on the planet doesn't make us that smart. Perhaps, we just have a stupid economic system. Change the paradigm and the goals change. Even conservatives know system based on consumption is unsustainable. They just haven't applied their own logic in macro terms. And how would we get our entire population to change the system? Not just an idea that could solve the problem but it also needs to be something we would all obey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigile Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Elon Musk is not a real innovative guy, he is just a subsidy sucker and he employs smart people. He has people fooled into thinking he is the second coming of Henry Ford. That's some serious spin there my friend. His latest Tesla was given a better than perfect rating by Consumer Reports. Better than any car in history. That's not innovation? Do you think Ford did all his own innovating, or could it be also said that Ford employed smart people, hence discounting his contribution in the same way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigile Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Perhaps, we just have a stupid economic system. Change the paradigm and the goals change. Even conservatives know system based on consumption is unsustainable. They just haven't applied their own logic in macro terms. And how would we get our entire population to change the system? Not just an idea that could solve the problem but it also needs to be something we would all obey. Change, IMO, won't come via force, but via necessity and technological evolution. We've already witnessed massive change via the industrial revolution and even more massive change during the computer revolution. The next revolution will be robotics. I think that's fairly clear right now. And when we're meeting the majority of our needs without a labor component, the consumption model will make less and less sense as it spins on the idea of capital distribution in exchange for labor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Change, IMO, won't come via force, but via necessity and technological evolution. That is how we got into this mess to begin with. Our general population doesn't make choices based on economic theory. They do what works for them personally based on what they can see within their own little world view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigile Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Change, IMO, won't come via force, but via necessity and technological evolution. That is how we got into this mess to begin with. Our general population doesn't make choices based on economic theory. They do what works for them personally based on what they can see within their own little world view. Nah, the public has no control over our economic system and never has. What I'm arguing here is that those who do have charge of the modes and means of production are going to be forced to adapt or they'll be replaced by those who will. At some point, it's just not going to make sense to pay for a lot of things we assume must be paid for. This is easy to see in the software industry, but I think we'll start to see more in the tangible goods and services as well as robotics and 3d printing become more pervasive and more advanced. You won't get people to drop capitalism by arguments or force. But technology will eventually disrupt it IMO. What that ultimately looks like is at best a fuzzy guess from our vantage point today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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