Spiritual Fruit, Not Spiritual Orbs

[bornagainathiest]

Hello.

 

This message is a warning about the member called Mystique.

Do not trust him when he claims to be... "one of the foremost leading authorities on the Holy Spirit in the entire world today."

He is a false prophet whose claims of spiritual wisdom and knowledge are betrayed by the bad spiritual fruit he displays in this forum.

 

Jesus's warnings about false prophets are given in the form of metaphors.

Sweet fruit cannot come from a tree that yields only rotten fruit and thorns.  By understanding that nothing good can come from something bad, we can discern the truth about someone by their conduct.  Even though they may claim to be good, their fruit is the true measure of what is inside them.   Even if they genuinely believe what they claim to be true, their actions and not their claims are what must be examined.  This is because a person cannot but help display the goodness or evil inside of them by their behavior.  

 

Matthew 7 : 15 - 20

 

15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 

16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 

17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 

18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 

19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 

20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

 

Luke 6 : 43 - 45

 

43 “No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit. 

44 Each tree is recognized by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thornbushes, or grapes from briers. 

45 A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart.

For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of.

 

Here are examples of Mystique's fruit. 

 

1.

I asked Mystique why it took repeated requests from me for him to produce any independent evidence to back up his claims about the holy spirit.  His response was this.

"I already told you. Besides I am not on trial and do not have to do anything you ask. I would suggest that you do whatever you need to do to return to God before you lose your sorry ass in hell. It is all real. I have seen it myself."

 

No.  He hadn't already told me.  That was a lie and I told him so.

 

"No, Mystique..!    Now you are openly lying.

You have not already told me the reason why you had to be pressed by me to produce evidence for your claims from an independent source.  I wasn't asking if you could tell me more about those photos that their source could.  That was not my question.  Instead, I was asking why you didn't produce any evidence from a source independent of yourself from get go - from when you first started posting about the holy spirit in the Lion's Den.  That question still hasn't been addressed by you.  Please answer my question."

 

2.

Mystique was also warned by a Moderator (buffetphan) about being verbally abusive.

 

"Terms of Service and Community Rules."  Read them, Mystique.
 We've already been letting you slide with your less than stellar arguments.  You don't get to verbally abuse us too.

 

3.

The apostle Paul describes what kind of behaviors are good spiritual fruit and he contrasted them with examples of the wicked behaviors of bad spiritual fruit.  

 

Galatians 5 : 22 & 23.

 

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

 

Galatians 5 : 19 - 21.

 

19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 

20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 

21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

 

I've highlighted 'selfish ambition' to draw attention to some of Mystique's claims about himself.

 

"I am one of the foremost leading authorities on the holy spirit in the world today."

 

"I have more wisdom and knowledge of the spirit world in my little finger then you have in your whole body."

 

"Jesus had revealed the Holy Spirit to me twice. I have seen the Holy Spirit hundreds if not thousands of times."

 

So who is being glorified here?

God or Mystique?  If he really had been given spiritual knowledge and wisdom by God then he shouldn't claim the kudos and prestige for himself.  All the glory of this is due to God, not Mystique.  And a true and humble servant of God would never be so self-seeking.  Such boastfulness shows that there is the bad fruit of selfish ambition within him.  This evil stored up in his heart overflows out of his mouth in the form of self-glorifying claims.  

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Lies.  Verbal abuse.  Selfish ambition.

These are not the good spiritual fruit that comes only from God.  These are examples of the bad fruit of a selfish man who is a false prophet.  Even if Mystique is 100% genuine in his beliefs, that is no guarantee that he really is a servant of God.  ISIL suicide bombers are 100% certain in their beliefs and the fruit of their conduct is death, injury and suffering.  No.  We must always examine how a person behaves to see into their heart and discern if they are trustworthy or not.

 

Please remind yourself of what Jesus said about recognizing good and evil and draw your own conclusions about Mystique.

 

Thank you,

 

BAA.

[DivineBlasphemer]

Is he even posting here anymore? I thought he made a grand disappearance

[florduh]

He seems to be gone. He made a Mystaque coming here I guess.

[Mythra]

I hope the biblical passages were meant for his benefit, not ours.

 

Here is some scripture for you:

 

2Mythra verse 3:

 

One need not pay any attention to religious nutters.  Except for their entertainment value. 

[Mythra]

He seems to be gone. He made a Mystaque coming here I guess.

Bwahaha!  I almost corrected your spelling!  

[Mythra]

BAA: you were the one who broke the case with Mystique.

 

I didn't look closely enough to all of his past excursions.  I'm wondering if he abandoned all of them once it was discovered that he was doing it over and over again.

And it didn't matter whether his audience were christians or ghost hunters or ufo-ologists or groups like us.  The reception he received was always the same: 

 

Get help, dude.

[bornagainathiest]

Is he even posting here anymore? I thought he made a grand disappearance

 

Whichever DB,... he's still not to be trusted.

[bornagainathiest]

BAA: you were the one who broke the case with Mystique.

 

So maybe I should add his head to my list of trophies..?  

 

I didn't look closely enough to all of his past excursions.  I'm wondering if he abandoned all of them once it was discovered that he was doing it over and over again.

And it didn't matter whether his audience were christians or ghost hunters or ufo-ologists or groups like us.  The reception he received was always the same: 

 

Get help, dude.

[Mythra]

I would if I were you!! 

 

Put it on the frikkin mantle!  It was a coup of epic proportions!

 

I don't know how you found all those other boards where he had lurked.  You must be omniscient.

 

And the best part was, he then confirmed those were all him.  Because his pride wouldn't let him run a ruse that there was another human being on planet earth who was sharing in his scoop about the holy spirit.

[bornagainathiest]

Mythra,

 

I think I'll wait a while before mounting Mystique's head as a trophy in my profile page. 

You never know... (glances over shoulder)... with Christians.  Just like zombies...when you think you've put them down for good, they come back to life and have to be dealt with all over again.  

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Omniscient?  Me..?  Nope.   Just ****ing relentless..!

Some folks reckon they wrote the book on relentless.  Guess who planted the tree that the book's paper was printed on..? 

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Yep.

You can see his bad spiritual fruit of pride and selfish ambition shining thru too. 

 

[Mystique]

TROLL THREAD.

[FreeThinkerNZ]

Hello again.  Have you been to see a professional yet?

[sdelsolray]

Rule 34 of the Manual of Christian Apologetics for Delusional Nutters, Third Edition:

 

After being convincingly refuted numerous times on an internet forum, stay away from it for at least two weeks.  When you return you are entitled start all over again with asserting the same nonsense you asserted previously just as if you had never done so before.  This is because you are special and Lying for Jesus™ and Lying for the Holy Spirit™ is your mission in life.

[midniterider]

BAA says, Do not trust him when he claims to be... "one of the foremost leading authorities on the Holy Spirit in the entire world today."

 

He's a leading authority on imaginary beings. Got it.

[mymistake]

TROLL THREAD.

 

 

Look!   I found the Holy Spirit!

 

[bornagainathiest]

http://www.oldhickoryfellowship.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/rotten-fruit.jpg

[Mythra]

TROLL THREAD.

And so, did you find being here amusing?  If so, it's unwarranted, since you didn't get anyone here worked up.  You just provided us with cheap entertainment.

 

So, are you still amused? Or, is this true:  you woke up from your delusional trance, and you are now humiliated and embarrassed and trying to pass it off as a spoof in order to save face?

 

I think the latter.  

[Storm]

TROLL THREAD.

As my lovely wife would say:

 

"Hello Pot, I'm Mr. Kettle!"

[disillusioned]

TROLL THREAD.

 

Well I guess that settles it.

[TheOutsider]

Rule 34 of the Manual of Christian Apologetics for Delusional Nutters, Third Edition:

 

After being convincingly refuted numerous times on an internet forum, stay away from it for at least two weeks.  When you return you are entitled start all over again with asserting the same nonsense you asserted previously just as if you had never done so before.  This is because you are special and Lying for Jesus™ and Lying for the Holy Spirit™ is your mission in life.

 

Hmmm... I can't tell if that was intentional, or coincidental...

 

If you don't know what I'm talking about, google the rule at your own risk.

[mymistake]

 

Rule 34 of the Manual of Christian Apologetics for Delusional Nutters, Third Edition:

 

After being convincingly refuted numerous times on an internet forum, stay away from it for at least two weeks.  When you return you are entitled start all over again with asserting the same nonsense you asserted previously just as if you had never done so before.  This is because you are special and Lying for Jesus™ and Lying for the Holy Spirit™ is your mission in life.

 

Hmmm... I can't tell if that was intentional, or coincidental...

 

If you don't know what I'm talking about, google the rule at your own risk.

 

 

 

Now wait a minute.  It's better to tell him the rule then to tell him to google it.   

[TheOutsider]

 

 

Rule 34 of the Manual of Christian Apologetics for Delusional Nutters, Third Edition:

 

After being convincingly refuted numerous times on an internet forum, stay away from it for at least two weeks.  When you return you are entitled start all over again with asserting the same nonsense you asserted previously just as if you had never done so before.  This is because you are special and Lying for Jesus™ and Lying for the Holy Spirit™ is your mission in life.

 

Hmmm... I can't tell if that was intentional, or coincidental...

 

If you don't know what I'm talking about, google the rule at your own risk.

 

 

 

Now wait a minute.  It's better to tell him the rule then to tell him to google it.   

 

B-but... Ehhhh... I guess it's not the worst thing I've ever posted...

 

Rule 34: If it exists, there's porn of it. If not, start uploading.

 

Trust me, tread carefully if you're curiosity get's the better of you... There be really, really weird shit out there.../shudders

[disillusioned]

So that settles it then. Unless pornographic evidence of the Holy Spirit can be produced, the Holy Spirit does not exist.

[TheOutsider]

Oh deer god... I'm sure that's a sub genre...

[sdelsolray]

 

Rule 34 of the Manual of Christian Apologetics for Delusional Nutters, Third Edition:

 

After being convincingly refuted numerous times on an internet forum, stay away from it for at least two weeks.  When you return you are entitled start all over again with asserting the same nonsense you asserted previously just as if you had never done so before.  This is because you are special and Lying for Jesus™ and Lying for the Holy Spirit™ is your mission in life.

 

Hmmm... I can't tell if that was intentional, or coincidental...

 

If you don't know what I'm talking about, google the rule at your own risk.

 

 

Christian Apologists, of the delusional nutter variety, claim a copyright on the term "Rule 34".  After all, they have special dispensation.