xIan Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I thought I broke the forum or was in trouble - it said I didn't have permission to do that (to make a new thread) and that I had to wait 1 second before doing so. That got the old ticker going again! The "Aka" in the title should be "AKA". "Aka" isn't a word, but it won't let me do it properly. Anyway - horse-made-from-a-substance-stronger-than-"god"-AKA-iron, and of course other christians - please stop praying for me. I can feel it and I don't like it. You're causing me to contract urticaria - or as your "god" didn't know what it was called, so decided to give it another word, "leprosy", which you would think is correct. Prayer is a waste of time. Did you hear about the news article of the piece of shit American idiot who sat on a boy while playing a computer game and ignored his screams and cries for help that he couldn't breath...and murdered him, while the retarded mum went to the garage and "prayed" to "god" to save her boy? Did you hear about every other time someone "prayed" to "god" and nothing happened? If your retarded "god" is SUPPOSED to be so all-loving; all-caring; all-benevolent; all-knowing, all-powerful; all-able; etc., etc., etc., then why did your devil non-god not care about this young boy, and allowed - and by inaction, encouraged and caused and forced - him to die?! Please don't tripe on that "it was his dad's choice". "god" is SUPPOSED to be infinitely more powerful and able than a person's choice and more so regarding children, as according to your bible - and with the idiot mum "praying", shouldn't that have made your "god" be not only bothered but more bothered (because "god" is supposed to love children more than adults) to help the poor boy?! Please read your stupid bible, and stop praying to that jew devil you call "jesus" - or "mary" if you prefer that character, despite the bible saying to not have other gods... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Ironhorse has been given nicknames by folks here, including Tin Pony and Pewter Jackass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xIan Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 Ironhorse has been given nicknames by folks here, including Tin Pony and Pewter Jackass. Well, thanks for that information, but it's ad christendom, not ad hominem!, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjn Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with IH here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duderonomy Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with IH here? I don't. I've called him everything from a "poe" to a troll, and I think I stuck up for him a couple of times too. If I did have a "problem" with Ironhorse, it would be that he hides behind pop culture too much when he posts, and doesn't talk to us in his own words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted February 7, 2016 Super Moderator Share Posted February 7, 2016 Am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with IH here? I have no problem with Ironhorse, myself. I disagree with his beliefs and with his lack of sincerity in engaging in serious discussion; but, with the man himself, I have no issue. I find it more effective to deal with the beliefs and tactics of christians than to engage in personal attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disillusioned Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with IH here? I have no problem with IH. He's generally a fairly good sport. I find his arguments lacking and I have been known to poke fun at him from time to time, but I don't dislike him. At least he has the balls to stick around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with IH here? Nope. He is one of my favorite Christians. He is tolerant, polite and always civil. These are fine qualities. From time to time I remind him why we do not believe what he believes. But that isn't personal. I think he is a nice guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xIan Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 Am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with IH here? I can't remember saying I have a problem with him. :S I'm quite new here and I don't know enough about him. He's the only christian I have seen here, so he stands out, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Furball Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I like ironhorse. He once took the time to PM me on here and thanked me for being civil with him in the den. I think he's a great guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted February 8, 2016 Super Moderator Share Posted February 8, 2016 Am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with IH here? I don't think Bono has a problem with Ironhorse either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦ nivek ♦ Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 If one leaves Ironhorsie out in rain does he get a rusty dick? kL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 From the news article exian posted: Mr Dearman then pinned the boy with his bodyweight to the couch so that he was facing the rear cushions. Detectives said he continued to play video games while ignoring the boy’s screams that he could not breathe. When the couple noticed that the boy looked lifeless, Mr Dearman called 911 and attempted to revive him. Ms Cole said she ran into the garage to pray. Paramedics arrived at the house in Englewood at about 10:10pm and took the boy to hospital, where he was pronounced dead. If you seek to dismiss prayer from this sad story, forget it. His wife said he was praying. I don't know what he was doing and if he was praying, what was he praying? I hope the guys is in jail the rest of his life. I have seen God answer prayer in my life and times when my prayers were not answered or not answered in the way I would have liked. My prayer request are always that God's will be done, not mine. I accept that. I don't view prayer as "magic chant" to get my way. And thanks for all the comments. I really do appreciate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 What prayers have you seen answered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 From the news article exian posted: Mr Dearman then pinned the boy with his bodyweight to the couch so that he was facing the rear cushions. Detectives said he continued to play video games while ignoring the boy’s screams that he could not breathe. When the couple noticed that the boy looked lifeless, Mr Dearman called 911 and attempted to revive him. Ms Cole said she ran into the garage to pray. Paramedics arrived at the house in Englewood at about 10:10pm and took the boy to hospital, where he was pronounced dead. If you seek to dismiss prayer from this sad story, forget it. His wife said he was praying. I don't know what he was doing and if he was praying, what was he praying? I hope the guys is in jail the rest of his life. I have seen God answer prayer in my life and times when my prayers were not answered or not answered in the way I would have liked. My prayer request are always that God's will be done, not mine. I accept that. I don't view prayer as "magic chant" to get my way. And thanks for all the comments. I really do appreciate them. God did answer prayer in this case. God's answer was "Nope, I'm going to let the kid die". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 ... I have seen God answer prayer in my life and times when my prayers were not answered or not answered in the way I would have liked. My prayer request are always that God's will be done, not mine. I accept that. ... Yes, Ironhorse the Magnificent is able to discern when his prayers are answered by his (invisible, private and imaginary) god and when they are not. A secular and rational analysis of this claim would require significant intimate disclosures by Ironhorse. Won't happen. And, it's not worth the time, at least my time (and I suspect most other's). Still, from afar, a reasonable conclusion is that Ironhorse projects his hopes, dreams, wishes and desires upon his fictional "god" and later chooses which of those projections were (i) answered, (ii) not answered, or (iii) not answered in a way he would have liked. Of course, he skips the causal analysis, and merely assumes that if things happened (or did not happen) afterwards, it must have been caused by the former. How convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted February 11, 2016 Super Moderator Share Posted February 11, 2016 I have also seen god "answer" my prayers. His "answers" were completely indistinguishable from what one might expect if there was no god answering prayers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I have also seen god "answer" my prayers. His "answers" were completely indistinguishable from what one might expect if there was no god answering prayers. Some folks can't (or won't) distinguish among non-sequitur, coincidence, correlation and causation. In earlier posts, Ironhorse has demonstrated he can't (or won't). Here, he is doing it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted February 11, 2016 Super Moderator Share Posted February 11, 2016 However, since I do profess to be some sort of scientist, I propose an experiment. "Dear God, The Father of Jesus Christ Our Lord, and the most Glorious Holy Spirit, I pray to you as a most unworthy and miserable wretch, completely undeserving of your great mercy and love. I know my prayer is that of a wicked sinner. Yet, I believe that, in the goodness and grace of your unending love, you hear and answer prayers, even from godless barbarians such as myself. I ask you, O Precious Heavenly Father, that you would make Ironhorse reveal to us the skeptical appraisal of his beliefs which he claims to have written and which BAA has been asking for since around 2 o'clock of the afternoon upon which your Noble Son ascended into Heaven. "I ask also, Most Gracious Lord, that you would make Ironhorse respond to all of the questions we have asked him since his arrival, including the ones he has persistently ignored. Let your Mighty Holy Spirit move upon Ironhorse that he might be ready to give account both in season and out of season. "I ask all these things in the name of Jesus, the very name to which every knee shall bow and every tongue confess, believing that where two or more are gathered together as touching any one thing, you will give it, and knowing that whatsoever we ask in your name you will do, because you are both able and willing to do more than we could ever ask or even imagine. "In Jesus' name I pray, Amen" Now we'll see if god answers prayer any better than Ironhorse answers questions... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disillusioned Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I have also seen god "answer" my prayers. His "answers" were completely indistinguishable from what one might expect if there was no god answering prayers. This is what many people fail to recognize. Usually, we see what we are looking for. If we want to think that God is out there, answering prayers, then we will see him doing just that. It's just confirmation bias. Nothing unusual about it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted February 15, 2016 Super Moderator Share Posted February 15, 2016 However, since I do profess to be some sort of scientist, I propose an experiment. "Dear God, The Father of Jesus Christ Our Lord, and the most Glorious Holy Spirit, I pray to you as a most unworthy and miserable wretch, completely undeserving of your great mercy and love. I know my prayer is that of a wicked sinner. Yet, I believe that, in the goodness and grace of your unending love, you hear and answer prayers, even from godless barbarians such as myself. I ask you, O Precious Heavenly Father, that you would make Ironhorse reveal to us the skeptical appraisal of his beliefs which he claims to have written and which BAA has been asking for since around 2 o'clock of the afternoon upon which your Noble Son ascended into Heaven. "I ask also, Most Gracious Lord, that you would make Ironhorse respond to all of the questions we have asked him since his arrival, including the ones he has persistently ignored. Let your Mighty Holy Spirit move upon Ironhorse that he might be ready to give account both in season and out of season. "I ask all these things in the name of Jesus, the very name to which every knee shall bow and every tongue confess, believing that where two or more are gathered together as touching any one thing, you will give it, and knowing that whatsoever we ask in your name you will do, because you are both able and willing to do more than we could ever ask or even imagine. "In Jesus' name I pray, Amen" Now we'll see if god answers prayer any better than Ironhorse answers questions... Bumped for your convenience, Precious Heavenly Father. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Just checking in for a few minutes... I am posting from a public library and should be back online at home by next Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornagainathiest Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Just checking in for a few minutes... I am posting from a public library and should be back online at home by next Wednesday. Then please make sure that besides replying to the Prof here, you also address the linked thread, Ironhorse. http://www.ex-christian.net/topic/71287-calling-ironhorse/page-2#.VsSvz_mLRD8 I will PM you the details so that when you log on you will see and know exactly where to go. So that you also know exactly what to do, please follow these simple instructions. There is but one (1) question for you. With seven (7) pointers as to what you shouldn't reply with. Please only answer the one (1) question. And nothing else. Thanks, BAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Just checking in for a few minutes... I am posting from a public library and should be back online at home by next Wednesday. A self-professed Libertarian practices Socialism. Funny stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted February 23, 2016 Super Moderator Share Posted February 23, 2016 However, since I do profess to be some sort of scientist, I propose an experiment. "Dear God, The Father of Jesus Christ Our Lord, and the most Glorious Holy Spirit, I pray to you as a most unworthy and miserable wretch, completely undeserving of your great mercy and love. I know my prayer is that of a wicked sinner. Yet, I believe that, in the goodness and grace of your unending love, you hear and answer prayers, even from godless barbarians such as myself. I ask you, O Precious Heavenly Father, that you would make Ironhorse reveal to us the skeptical appraisal of his beliefs which he claims to have written and which BAA has been asking for since around 2 o'clock of the afternoon upon which your Noble Son ascended into Heaven. "I ask also, Most Gracious Lord, that you would make Ironhorse respond to all of the questions we have asked him since his arrival, including the ones he has persistently ignored. Let your Mighty Holy Spirit move upon Ironhorse that he might be ready to give account both in season and out of season. "I ask all these things in the name of Jesus, the very name to which every knee shall bow and every tongue confess, believing that where two or more are gathered together as touching any one thing, you will give it, and knowing that whatsoever we ask in your name you will do, because you are both able and willing to do more than we could ever ask or even imagine. "In Jesus' name I pray, Amen" Now we'll see if god answers prayer any better than Ironhorse answers questions... Bumped for your convenience, Precious Heavenly Father. Just checking in for a few minutes... I am posting from a public library and should be back online at home by next Wednesday. Tomorrow is Wednesday, Precious Heavenly Father. You ready? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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