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According to the internet in 1961, England and Wales had 7 registered mosques......

 

In 1991, just 30 years later it was 443

 

That number is now an estimated 1750 in 2016

 

In 1961 the Muslim population was around 0.11 percent 

 

Now it is nearly 5 percent overall, although in some areas it stands locally at nearly 35 percent ...........

 

thoughts.............

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People should be worried about the fact that corporations are taking over. Religions aren't in control of anything, no matter how stupid they are. The media is distracting you. 

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I find stats and maths really interesting, so really looking at trends here. Some commentators predict England will have a Muslim majority in 34 years.......

 

How true this prediction will be is another matter

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I find stats and maths really interesting, so really looking at trends here. Some commentators predict England will have a Muslim majority in 34 years.......

 

How true this prediction will be is another matter

 

Someone is wildly playing with the numbers to get that result given that today they only represent 4.5%. Keep in mind the vast majority of immigrants fully assimilate into their new culture within 3 generations too.  

 

The biggest threat to England I can see from the outside looking in is the threat to the NHS. The neo conservatives will have that dismantled in a few years if people don't stand up to them. 

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It's all about birth rate, immigration. Eventually we'll all have to adapt to the changing landscape and the different values that come with it if your country of origin is open to diversity.

 

Israel defines itself as a Jewish and democratic state, encouraging the migration of Jews to this state and ensuring that it is not demographically overtaken by surrounding cultures with conflicting values.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Israel

Israel was founded to provide a national home, safe from persecution, to the Jewish people. Although Israeli law explicitly grants equal civil rights to all citizens regardless of religion, ethnicity, or other heritage,[15] it gives preferential treatment in certain aspects to individuals who fall within the criteria mandated by the Law of Return, including preferential treatment to Jews and their relatives who seek to immigrate to Israel.[16]

 

If you build walls, as per Trump, you enter a protective and more exclusive mode akin to Israel. 

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If you want scary statistics look at Catholics in America and you will see how we came to live in a Catholic theocracy today. The founding fathers warned us of the dangers of Catholics in the US. They were more accepting of "Mohammedans". 

 

Catholics were fleeing poverty and death and seeking opportunity and safety. Muslims are massively more diverse than Catholic immigrants and it is as ignorant to refer to them as a monolithic group as it would be to insist that there is no difference in Christian denominations.

 

It's particularly strange to find people who reject religion singling out particular religious groups for alarmist delusions.

 

Good luck with the thread.

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The purpose of the thread is more in interest of stats.

 

I am not an alarmist and generally treat people with respect.

 

I am intrigued if others think Islam will become more dominate in relation of its current growth 

 

To add to my own OP....

 

The stats say that Christianity has dropped from around 78 percent to about 59 percent, would anyone say that Christianity will eventually become effective extinct in England 

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I can easily see England becoming a subordinate caliphate within not too many more decades.

Mind you when the "muslims" take over the islands in near future the who and when of keeping infrastructure and farming functioning will be interesting.
 

I do not sweat "them" taking over anything but the cities where their FSA can continue to suck benefits off the still willing taxpayers..

 

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Once they do they will collapse under the weight of not being "oppressed" and be lame like Christians eventually

Maybe

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Multiculturalism and unregulated immigration is a stupid neo-liberal pipe dream. It's incredibly naive to believe all cultures are equal and that they are all interchangeable, because no, they simply aren't. And even if that WAS true, I don't see any reason why the West has to become a "melting pot". Why is that automatically deemed good? There's no natural law that says that such a thing is inherently "good".  

 

Demographics is one of the most important issues around, and avoiding to talk about it because it's non-PC and "RAYCUSM!" will cost us dearly in the long run. 

 

Someone is wildly playing with the numbers to get that result given that today they only represent 4.5%. Keep in mind the vast majority of immigrants fully assimilate into their new culture within 3 generations too.  
 

Yes, this sounds like a nice cuddly idea but I sincerely doubt it is true. The UK have had South Asian Muslim immigration for 60+ years, and despite that, large Pakistani communities are far from "assimilated". I simply don't buy it. 

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Multiculturalism and unregulated immigration is a stupid neo-liberal pipe dream. It's incredibly naive to believe all cultures are equal and that they are all interchangeable, because no, they simply aren't. And even if that WAS true, I don't see any reason why the West has to become a "melting pot". Why is that automatically deemed good? There's no natural law that says that such a thing is inherently "good".  

 

Demographics is one of the most important issues around, and avoiding to talk about it because it's non-PC and "RAYCUSM!" will cost us dearly in the long run. 

 

Someone is wildly playing with the numbers to get that result given that today they only represent 4.5%. Keep in mind the vast majority of immigrants fully assimilate into their new culture within 3 generations too.  
 

Yes, this sounds like a nice cuddly idea but I sincerely doubt it is true. The UK have had South Asian Muslim immigration for 60+ years, and despite that, large Pakistani communities are far from "assimilated". I simply don't buy it. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-generation_immigrants_in_the_United_States#Theories_on_cultural_assimilation

 

But, like I've said, all these fears of cultural invasion have never come to fruition even though these fears are older than dust. What has happened in the meantime is a massively neoliberal coup. So, could it be someone is trying to distract us by appealing to our lizard brains? 

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Multiculturalism and unregulated immigration is a stupid neo-liberal pipe dream. It's incredibly naive to believe all cultures are equal and that they are all interchangeable, because no, they simply aren't. And even if that WAS true, I don't see any reason why the West has to become a "melting pot". Why is that automatically deemed good? There's no natural law that says that such a thing is inherently "good".  

 

Demographics is one of the most important issues around, and avoiding to talk about it because it's non-PC and "RAYCUSM!" will cost us dearly in the long run. 

 

Someone is wildly playing with the numbers to get that result given that today they only represent 4.5%. Keep in mind the vast majority of immigrants fully assimilate into their new culture within 3 generations too.  

 

Yes, this sounds like a nice cuddly idea but I sincerely doubt it is true. The UK have had South Asian Muslim immigration for 60+ years, and despite that, large Pakistani communities are far from "assimilated". I simply don't buy it.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-generation_immigrants_in_the_United_States#Theories_on_cultural_assimilation

 

But, like I've said, all these fears of cultural invasion have never come to fruition even though these fears are older than dust. What has happened in the meantime is a massively neoliberal coup. So, could it be someone is trying to distract us by appealing to our lizard brains?

Might want to check this out, from a Muslim website: http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2492&Itemid=77

 

 

Meh, I'm arguing for paying attention to what is actually happening, not what is merely being talked about. Right now there is one major threat that is actually here and in fact I've seen you agree with this on many occasions even if we approach it from different ideological perspectives. The fact that those perpetrating these loss of freedoms on us are the same ones trying to distract us with other 'potential' threats. It's slight of hand. 

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Key events in the world have a common cause:

 

Zionists are trying to force Christians and Muslims killing each other.

 

If Zionists do not succeed, then may be second variant, when Muslims and Christians will united for will destroy all Zionists.

 

Which option (one of two) suits you more?

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Zionists are trying to force Christians and Muslims killing each other

 

 

Christians and Muslims are doing a fine job killing each other without needing any help from the "Zionists".

 

If Zionists do not succeed, then may be second variant, when Muslims and Christians will united for will destroy all Zionists.

 

 

Yeah right. Wendycrazy.gif

 

ETA:  And as I've said many times before, Orthodox Jews are just as bad.  They're all different sides of the nasty three-sided Abrahamic coin.

 

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But, like I've said, all these fears of cultural invasion have never come to fruition even though these fears are older than dust. What has happened in the meantime is a massively neoliberal coup. So, could it be someone is trying to distract us by appealing to our lizard brains?

 

The US have stricter rules regarding immigration and asylum. Besides, you've got the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean working as quite an effective barrier. And no, those fears are indeed coming to fruition. Think honor killings occured 30 years ago in the country? Sharia-patrols?

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Multiculturalism and unregulated immigration is a stupid neo-liberal pipe dream. It's incredibly naive to believe all cultures are equal and that they are all interchangeable, because no, they simply aren't. And even if that WAS true, I don't see any reason why the West has to become a "melting pot". Why is that automatically deemed good? There's no natural law that says that such a thing is inherently "good".  

 

Demographics is one of the most important issues around, and avoiding to talk about it because it's non-PC and "RAYCUSM!" will cost us dearly in the long run. 

 

 

Someone is wildly playing with the numbers to get that result given that today they only represent 4.5%. Keep in mind the vast majority of immigrants fully assimilate into their new culture within 3 generations too.  

 

Yes, this sounds like a nice cuddly idea but I sincerely doubt it is true. The UK have had South Asian Muslim immigration for 60+ years, and despite that, large Pakistani communities are far from "assimilated". I simply don't buy it.

Even immigrants here in the states are not assimilating like they used to. A hundred years ago, immigrants wanted to learn English and dress and act like Americans. My own grandfather anglicized his name and refused to speak his native tongue once he reached adulthood. My mother still regrets he never taught her his first language. Nowadays, there are whole communities of Mexicans who live and work here but require their young children, who pick up English in school, to translate for them! If I moved to France, I wouldn't expect to speak English for the rest of my life - I would learn French!

 

Whether complete assimilation (dress, language, customs, etc.) is a good thing or a bad thing, it seems logical that newly arrived people would want to assimilate at least enough to become a useful, law abiding part of the society they are joining.

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But, like I've said, all these fears of cultural invasion have never come to fruition even though these fears are older than dust. What has happened in the meantime is a massively neoliberal coup. So, could it be someone is trying to distract us by appealing to our lizard brains?

 

 

The US have stricter rules regarding immigration and asylum. Besides, you've got the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean working as quite an effective barrier. And no, those fears are indeed coming to fruition. Think honor killings occured 30 years ago in the country? Sharia-patrols?

When you have large numbers of young men entering a country where women wear revealing clothing and these young men have been brought up to believe that such women are basically prostitutes and fair game, you're going to have a big problem with assimilation. When your young women are raised up to be "property" but fall in love with the young men they are now exposed to that are not members of their religion, you are going to have honor killings. There has to be some assimilation or both sides will suffer. Problem is, the hardliners coming in have no interest in assimilation. That is what scares me the most about this current refugee crisis. Western civilization and this hardline Islamic influx in huge numbers is going to clash in big ugly ways. I hope that the Internet and the fact that young people tend not to have as strong beliefs will help the situation.

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According to the internet in 1961, England and Wales had 7 registered mosques......

 

In 1991, just 30 years later it was 443

 

That number is now an estimated 1750 in 2016

 

In 1961 the Muslim population was around 0.11 percent 

 

Now it is nearly 5 percent overall, although in some areas it stands locally at nearly 35 percent ...........

 

thoughts.............

 

 

Seven mosques in 1961 to 1,750 in 55 years??? I'd say Islam already has taken over the UK. 

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Islam is being used as a puppet by the global corporate elite.

 

Globalization is coming, not Islam or Christianity or anything else. 

 

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People should be worried about the fact that corporations are taking over. Religions aren't in control of anything, no matter how stupid they are. The media is distracting you. 

 

Over the years I am starting to see how all religion is just used as a tool by the corporate oligarchy to manipulate the masses.

 

The corporate controlled media brainwashing isn't even subtle anymore, it's almost laughable.

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