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What Spirituality Of Any Sort Has Anyone Found "power"?


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Jesus name was something I used to use (it really didn't work out as planned with it or not).............. when i was following christianity, which is driving me crazy at this time is the spiritual abandment.... but none the less I am used to it, and totally explained in great detail to a Saviour of the world being that listened like he doesn't exist while he does. Can anyone inform me of which way i should go in spirituality (I would rather be spiritual in life with or apart from religion) where I can find power against anything evil for example.........?

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Perhaps start with some Alan Watts.

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Jesus name was something I used to use (it really didn't work out as planned with it or not).............. when i was following christianity, which is driving me crazy at this time is the spiritual abandment.... but none the less I am used to it, and totally explained in great detail to a Saviour of the world being that listened like he doesn't exist while he does. Can anyone inform me of which way i should go in spirituality (I would rather be spiritual in life with or apart from religion) where I can find power against anything evil for example.........?

Alan Watts is a good suggestion. You can listen to most of his stuff on youtube. You might also try Raimundo Panikkar, who is kind of a bridge between Christianity and Hinduism with a bucket of myth and anthropology added. Despite being a Catholic, he's not "religious" in the way you would associate with that. One of his books is "Myth, Faith, and Hermenuetics". He tends to write about how spirituality transcends dogma and religion, and about how mythical themes appear in different religions because they stand for basic human truths, and shouldn't be made subjects of dogma. If you've not processed leaving Xtianity completely, Panikkar might be triggering though. If you've made peace with it, he's a good read.

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thats pretty interesting..........

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Keep asking questions about your spirituality. That's been key for me, never knowing, always wondering and exploring potentials.

I've come to a sort of naturalist place with mine, based on realities around us, inside, anatomical, and outside from microcosmic to macro, looking at energies behind all of these. I don't know, that's where I find the most inspiration.

There was a test posted here maybe 2 or 3 years ago that told what faith you best fit. It said I was Pegan/Unitarian. Hmm...

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Keep asking questions about your spirituality. That's been key for me, never knowing, always wondering and exploring potentials.

I've come to a sort of naturalist place with mine, based on realities around us, inside, anatomical, and outside from microcosmic to macro, looking at energies behind all of these. I don't know, that's where I find the most inspiration.

There was a test posted here maybe 2 or 3 years ago that told what faith you best fit. It said I was Pegan/Unitarian. Hmm...

I have become kind of comfortably numb between christianity and not following it.......... my wife keeps pressing religion on me (I kind of love that about her, because it always makes a woman truthful to fear a Holiness , not judging women but i love my wife and can't leave her)........ so what i do with God's spiritual abandoning is just day by day accepting where i am....... I find christianity would have been a lovely religion if only: God won't be negative, there would be no condemnation if only other scriptures would have not been placed, my rebirth started where i was in a bible study of the book of hebrews in the bible, and it was unconditional loving God, and its only mixed with warnings..... that is what screws people's mind up is the contradictions spiritually in the bible, and the spiritual abandonment of God , well, if God exists, he is getting warnings about his comfort seat of possibly denying what he first spoke to give to them........ There is alot of contradiction, but if God is a good as he said he is, all of you should be unconditionally loved (looking at book of hebrews), even if you are unbelieving towards him or he loved you with and everlasting love, that he is only a liar to himself about, if there is no more threat of hell for people who left the religion......... I noticed alot of christians around me take a "grace from God" in vain and disobey the scriptures left right and center , i can only say that as far as God sending love letters as it is to people leaving him (I was on this site a while back reading that stuff), others it looks like he don't even care for them......... So im coming to the conclusion not even to worry about it, and believe thus far it is theoretically "possible" to remain neutral based on current circumstances in peace......

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Jesus name was something I used to use (it really didn't work out as planned with it or not).............. when i was following christianity, which is driving me crazy at this time is the spiritual abandment.... but none the less I am used to it, and totally explained in great detail to a Saviour of the world being that listened like he doesn't exist while he does. Can anyone inform me of which way i should go in spirituality (I would rather be spiritual in life with or apart from religion) where I can find power against anything evil for example.........?

 

I'm not entirely sure what you are asking.  Are you referring to the use of "Jesus" as a sort of apotropaic saying?  A charm or some sort of verbal amulet?

 

If so, you will find the power you seek within your own mind.  Once you realise that you will see any such charm become as meaningless and useless as, in actual fact, it is.

 

If you are looking for a moral or ethical structure, however, that likely will involve a lot of thought and the realisation that there is no objectively "right" answer.

 

If that makes sense...

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Jesus name was something I used to use (it really didn't work out as planned with it or not).............. when i was following christianity, which is driving me crazy at this time is the spiritual abandment.... but none the less I am used to it, and totally explained in great detail to a Saviour of the world being that listened like he doesn't exist while he does. Can anyone inform me of which way i should go in spirituality (I would rather be spiritual in life with or apart from religion) where I can find power against anything evil for example.........?

 

There are literally endless alternatives, but I think the most productive are:

 

1) Buddhism/Zen

2) Taoism

3) Druidry (biased, lol)

4) Other Pagan (Wicca, Asatru, etc..)

 

I'm not sure why you need to be protected from evil, I just find that sentence strange. Most of the religions outside of Abrahamic ones don't have a clearly defined good and evil dichotomy. That extends even to their Gods and Goddesses so probably no luck on that point. In any case, it is going to be pretty hard to find other religions that see things in black and white ways.

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Rabbit's foot?

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No one can tell you which way to go in regards to spirituality; only you can do that.

 

There is great advice out there, and terrible advice as well. I concur with the Alan Watts recommendations, and would also like to recommend Brad Warner's "Hardcore Zen". You don't have to become or consider yourself a Buddhist (or anything else) to learn a good deal from the writings and musings of Zen Buddhists, and Warner's book is probably the best Zen book I've ever read.

 

Only my two cents, though. All I or anyone else can do is point at things. The rest is up to you.

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There are no magic powers no matter how much we wish for it. That magical feeling can be achieved by stimulating certain portions of the brain. How you do that is up to you, but remember, it's brain function, not magic. We have learned much in neuroscience, but as with the discovery of the heliocentric model of the solar system, many are slow to accept the new information.

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Power probably isn't the best way to look at it. Yes it would be heaven on earth if we could command immediate change. It has to develop for you, grow. I'd say refocus, then persistence, endurance and increasing strengths would be it more than power. I've been where you are. It's hard. But it is a once in a life time opportunity for you to discover yourself. 

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I really like Eknath Easwaran. He passed in 1999, but he took the best from all of the world's major religions and created a spiritual program that I enjoy very much. You can see his 8-Point program here:

 

http://www.easwaran.org/the-eight-point-program.html

 

I hope that helps... Glory!

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