qadeshet Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 7 members, 45 guests, 1 anonymous users Hello to our welcome Guests. Good morning! I always try to imagine what question brought you here. Christianity, in fact all Religions, want to control and subjugate you; and of course, they also want your money! Remember, you are supposed to submit to the Authority of the Church! Only 8% of your donations go to help others in need. What do they do with the rest of it? Ask more questions, and join us. Please enjoy your stay with us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Margee Posted June 24, 2016 Moderator Share Posted June 24, 2016 Good morning beautiful guests! Did you know that you are actually an atheist to many other religions? That's right! If you had been born, bred and brought up in another religion in different country, you would actually be an atheist against Christianity. You believe that Christianity is the 'right' religion because that is what you were taught. Something to think about today. Come and join us and we can discuss this!! ((hugs)) to you all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 9 members, 95 guests, 1 anonymous users Wow, we have so many new frends to greet. Thanks for visiting! Wasn't Margee profound? We are here to try and answer your questions, so why not join? We don't bite. Cheers! Good morning beautiful guests! Did you know that you are actually an atheist to many other religions? That's right! If you had been born, bred and brought up in another religion in different country, you would actually be an atheist against Christianity. You believe that Christianity is the 'right' religion because that is what you were taught. Something to think about today. Come and join us and we can discuss this!! ((hugs)) to you all Great post Margee. Would you like to know what "Eve" actually represents? Huggs! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Margee Posted June 24, 2016 Moderator Share Posted June 24, 2016 9 members, 95 guests, 1 anonymous users Wow, we have so many new frends to greet. Thanks for visiting! Wasn't Margee profound? We are here to try and answer your questions, so why not join? We don't bite. Cheers! Good morning beautiful guests! Did you know that you are actually an atheist to many other religions? That's right! If you had been born, bred and brought up in another religion in different country, you would actually be an atheist against Christianity. You believe that Christianity is the 'right' religion because that is what you were taught. Something to think about today. Come and join us and we can discuss this!! ((hugs)) to you all Great post Margee. Would you like to know what "Eve" actually represents? Huggs! Trust me..I am not profound in any way but thank you! I learned everything I know today because of this website. It was Ex-c that taught me how to see the bible that I doubted more clearly. That's why I encourage, as you do for the guests to join!! And what does 'Eve' mean Mr. qade? Because I am known around here to be 'Madame Eve!!! I hope it's something good!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burny Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I just wanted to say to the 44 guests that are currently on ex-c that we know that our reasoned arguments can't convince you of anything - otherwise we wouldn't need this site! It's not us that have to 'convince' or argue you into unbelief, it's only you who can do that. And trust me, we know how scary it is to take that first tentative step by typing the words into a Google search that probably landed you here. Right now many of you might be in a stage of shock - how can people like us seriously exist?! How can honest, loving, caring individuals really think the Christian God isn't real?! How can honest Christians become whatever we are?! Those are good questions. Keep asking them. No one else has to know. Your mind is yours alone. As a former Calvinist myself, I know quite a bit about questions and complicated theology. My first question was during catechism class as a young boy - wondering if the Catholic boy down the street was learning about how wrong my religion was, just as I was learning how wrong his was. It took me another 25 years to finally ask the really tough questions and more importantly follow the really tough answers. Life is scary when we don't know things. Church and pastors and parents tell us things that make us feel good - why upset that cart right? Trust me. I understand. I'm not going to give you any big philosophical reasons why Christianity is wrong or why you should reconsider your faith. I'm simply going to tell you that there are many of us former believers here and all over the world who have discovered that there is light at the end of the darkness that is indoctrination. There is true and real freedom waiting for you if you choose to make that courageous step. Freedom is never free. It is a long, hard journey to deprogram yourself but it is the most enlightening, empowering and amazing journey you can partake in! And the best part? It doesn't cost much and you can do it without anyone else telling you how or what to believe. You can do it secretly or publicly. All you need is Google and an open mind. Enjoy the ride! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 6 members, 55 guests Welcome valued Guests, and all Questioners! Here is my question from anther Thread. Will someone give me one single thing that mosquitos do to help Man in any way? If some "god" created the World, just for us, then why provide us with these nasty creatures? Join us and help answer these interresting questions. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Margee Posted June 24, 2016 Moderator Share Posted June 24, 2016 Here is my question from anther Thread. Will someone give me one single thing that mosquitos do to help Man in any way? If some "god" created the World, just for us, then why provide us with these nasty creatures? Join us and help answer these interresting questions. Cheers! qadeshet, I just want to show our 47 precious guests who are reading right now, how much fun we have on Ex-C!! C'mon guys and gals, join us....we don't 'bite'!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 9 members, 45 guests Our welcome to our 45 Guests! When you look at Margee's nice pic below, have you wondered why "god' couldn't have done something useful with the mosquito? Suppose that mosquito's, instead of spreading terrible diseases, injected us with vitamins instead? Could "god" not think of something so simple? I did. It would seem that Evolution must have a "hand" in this. Would you like more answers than the Churches want you to have? Come on in. Cheers! Here is my question from anther Thread. Will someone give me one single thing that mosquitos do to help Man in any way? If some "god" created the World, just for us, then why provide us with these nasty creatures? Join us and help answer these interresting questions. Cheers! qadeshet, I just want to show our 47 precious guests who are reading right now, how much fun we have on Ex-C!! C'mon guys and gals, join us....we don't 'bite'!! Thamks Margee. Cheers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 8 members, 45 guests Welcome honored Guests. Thanks to friend florduh for this thought: So either Noah took all the created deadly bacteria on the boat or they were created later. Does the theology of our resident Christians allow for a second creation or was everything created in the first week like it says in Genesis? Would bacteria also get on the boat two by two? Why? Why did Noah let in all the bacteria and viruses? Would you rather blame "god" or Evolution? Cheers! 9 members, 45 guests Our welcome to our 45 Guests! When you look at Margee's nice pic below, have you wondered why "god' couldn't have done something useful with the mosquito? Suppose that mosquito's, instead of spreading terrible diseases, injected us with vitamins instead? Could "god" not think of something so simple? I did. It would seem that Evolution must have a "hand" in this. Would you like more answers than the Churches want you to have? Come on in. Cheers! Here is my question from anther Thread. Will someone give me one single thing that mosquitos do to help Man in any way? If some "god" created the World, just for us, then why provide us with these nasty creatures? Join us and help answer these interresting questions. Cheers! qadeshet, I just want to show our 47 precious guests who are reading right now, how much fun we have on Ex-C!! C'mon guys and gals, join us....we don't 'bite'!! Thamks Margee. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 25, 2016 Author Share Posted June 25, 2016 8 members, 52 guests, 2 anonymous users Welcome everyone! Really: All Roads lead to Ancient Sumer. Please enjoy your stay. Join us and have a nice conversation. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 25, 2016 Author Share Posted June 25, 2016 3 members, 65 guests, 1 anonymous users A friendly welcome to our Guests! We hope that you enjoy your stay. Please feel free to join us. We'll be happy to try and answer your questions. Thanks for stopping by. Cheers! Know Thyself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 25, 2016 Author Share Posted June 25, 2016 5 members, 63 guests, 2 anonymous users This is for our welcome Guests. Thanks again for stopping by. You may as well join; you know you have questions. Cheers! Steppenwolf: America Once the religious, the hunted and wearyChasing the promise of freedom and hopeCame to this country to build a new visionFar from the reaches of kingdom and popeLike good Christians, some would burn the witchesLater some got slaves to gather riches But still from near and far to seek AmericaThey came by thousands to court the wildAnd she just patiently smiled and bore a childTo be their spirit and guiding light And once the ties with the crown had been brokenWestward in saddle and wagon it wentAnd 'til the railroad linked ocean to oceanMany the lives which had come to an endWhile we bullied, stole and bought our homelandWe began the slaughter of the red man But still from near and far to seek AmericaThey came by thousands to court the wildAnd she just patiently smiled and bore a childTo be their spirit and guiding light The blue and gray they stomped itThey kicked it just like a dogAnd when the war was overThey stuffed it just like a hog And though the past has it's share of injusticeKind was the spirit in many a wayBut it's protectors and friends have been sleepingNow it's a monster and will not obey The spirit was freedom and justiceAnd it's keepers seem generous and kindIt's leaders were supposed to serve the countryBut now they won't pay it no mind'Cause the people grew fat and got lazyAnd now their vote is a meaningless joke They babble about law and orderBut it's all just an echo of what they've been toldYeah, there's a monster on the looseIt's got our heads into a nooseAnd it just sits there watchin' The cities have turned into junglesAnd corruption is stranglin' the landThe police force is watching the peopleAnd the people just can't understandWe don't know how to mind our own business'Cause the whole world's got to be just like us Now we are fighting a war over thereNo matter who's the winnerWe can't pay the cost 'Cause there's a monster on the looseIt's got our heads into the nooseAnd it just sits there watching America where are you now?Don't you care about your sons and daughters?Don't you know we need you now?We can't fight alone against the monster America where are you now?Don't you care about your sons and daughters?Don't you know we need you now?We can't fight alone against the monster America where are you now?Don't you care about your sons and daughters?Don't you know we need you now?We can't fight alone against the monster America where are you now?Don't you care about your sons and daughters?Don't you know we need you now?We can't fight alone against the monster America where are you now?Don't you care about your sons and daughters?Don't you know we need you now?We can't fight alone against the monster Read more: Steppenwolf - Monster/Suicide/America Lyrics | MetroLyrics You will love the Video. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 25, 2016 Author Share Posted June 25, 2016 5 members, 63 guests, 2 anonymous users Greetings honored Guests! You know that you belong with Free Thinkers... so join us. I Googled my earlier thought and could find no other mention of it. I really like it as a closing. Later! The only thing you can take with you when you die? The legacy of an Honorable Life, lived well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 25, 2016 Author Share Posted June 25, 2016 8 members, 49 guests, 1 anonymous users Welcome everyone! Here's something from Christopher Hitchens: www.hitchmas.com Never be a spectator of unfairness and stupidity. Seek out argument and disputation for their own sake; the grave will supply plenty of time for silence. —Christopher Hitchens I'm not that keen on the idea of being unconscious. There's plenty of time to be unconscious coming up. —Christopher Hitchens Know Thyself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 25, 2016 Author Share Posted June 25, 2016 5 members, 51 guests Hello valued Guests! We have helpfull, non judgemental answers to many of your questions. If your Church gives you stupid excuses when you ask questions, you're not alone. The Book of Life, written before the Foundation of the World, is found in the Book of Revelation. According to the Bible, if your name is missing, tough s**t. You get tossed into the Lake of Fire. How did god know that you were going to be born before the World was made? Are you sure that you were Predestined for Heaven? Ask a Calvinist. You may be "lost" tomorrow. Maybe the Bible god is not such a nice guy after all"? Come on in! Thanks for visiting. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 26, 2016 Author Share Posted June 26, 2016 10 members, 35 guests, 1 anonymous users Hello dear Guests. Welcome! Voice found this informative video. Maybe this will help. Thanks. How Can I Effectively Get Over My Fear Of Hell? A must see article, a bishop discussing why the church invented hell. He's right on. https://www.facebook...21301857884348/ Know Thyself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 26, 2016 Author Share Posted June 26, 2016 1 members, 30 guests Welcome fellow travellers on the ship of Life! I guess that I have the stage today. It seems that everyone else is sleeping. I just posted to the "Did Jesus Exist" Thread. Check it out if you like. Today I have added a second Maxim. If you do only there two things, you'll be fine. Joining is free, so why wait? Cheers! Know Thyself Be Temperate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 26, 2016 Author Share Posted June 26, 2016 4 members, 43 guests, 1 anonymous users Good morning welcome Guests! I found an old Post from '12. I doubt anyone will go back that far so... Does St Peter guard the Pearly Gates to keep people out, or to keep people in? Just in case it might amuse you. Thanks again for joining us! Know Thyself! Be Temperate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 26, 2016 Author Share Posted June 26, 2016 A friendly welcome to our Guests! bornagainatheist has inspired me to show you that the Universe is Billions of years old. I think that it would be better to Know than just take Science's word for it. This won't take long, so why not? The Universe; pretty big huh? The speed of light is constant; 186,000 miles per second. Sounds pretty fast to me too. But once the sunlight leaves the Sun it actually takes about 8 min. Once the sunlight bounces off the Moon, it still takes about a second and a half to reach Earth. The distance that the Sun travels in one year is called a Light Year. A Light Year is actually the distance that light travels in one year. The closest Star is a double Star; Alpha Centauri A and B. the distance is 4.3 Light Years. So the light took 4.3 years to reach the Earth. Polaris, the North Star, is 433 Light Years(133 Parsecs) away. So it took that light 433 years to reach the Earth. Our Milky Way Galaxy contains over 200 Billion Stars. This sounds like a lot, but our neighbor Galaxy, Andromeda, is 2.5 Million Light Years away! This means that the Universe must be a least 2.5 Million years old. Are you following? The Universe contains at least hundreds of Millions of Galaxies! See the Hubble Deep Field photo below? This picture was taken over a long period of time; because these Galaxies are so far away. The farthest Galaxy, far, far, away, is is shown below. http://www.space.com/18502-farthest-galaxy-discovery-hubble-photos.html The galaxy is about 13.3 billion light-years from Earth, the farthest galaxy yet known, and formed 420 million years after the Big Bang. Image taken by Hubble Space Telescope on Nov. 29, 2011, and released Nov. 15, 2012 Galaxies Far, Far, away It took at least 13.2 Billion years to reach the Earth! If the Universe were 10,000 years old, we wouldn't be able to see farther than 10,000 Light Years! The night sky would be pretty dark. The Universe must be even older, right? The estimated age of the Universe is about 13.77 Billion years old...Billions and Billions and Billions of years. Now do you see that Science is pretty nice, right? I'm no scientist, just a regular guy. Don't believe those nutty Creationists! Hope that you enjoyed the Trip. Thank you for coming to visit us. Recommend us to your friends. We are here, after all, for you! Know Thyself! Hubble Deep Field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 26, 2016 Author Share Posted June 26, 2016 6 members, 42 guests, Hello to all, and welcome! You may know, honored Guests, that Members are usually outnumbered. We are here for everyone. But I always have you, the Guests, in mind when I post. I try to think of the questions I would like the answer to. But why not just become a Member...then you can ask us directly. There's no charge, just a few ads. Christians, doubters, we don't mind. We even have a special area for debate, if you wish. Welcome. Carl Sagan, of course: “Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there-on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam. Really, stay a while. Know Thyself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 9 members, 44 guests Greetings Honored Guests! Welcome. We don't turn away strangers seeking knowledge. Join us. Here is a nice quote: Joseph Campbell, Mythographer “The cave you fear to enter holds the treasure you seek.”― Joseph Campbell Know Thyself! Perceive what you have heard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 2 members, 47 guests, 1 anonymous users Know Yourself. Members and Guests, friends and family, and welcome to our special Guests. What is the difference between Science and Religion? Religion tells us we have to believe without evidence, do whatever they tell us, and give them lots of our time and Dinero. If something works, it's called Science. We never needed Religion except to control the masses. All we really need to do is to know our selves. And how to you contact your Self? Know Yourself! There is nothing mysterious or Religious about those two words. Science works, whether you believe it or not! Start your next conversation, especially someone that your don't know, with "Know Yourself". Remember the 23rd Psalm? I'm not going to even quote from this degrading story, even though they are beautifully written. Damn guys, Religion wants us to be Sheep, not people! Besides, it's your Church that wants obedient sheeple and slaves. What if everyone knew that they don't even need Religion? Remember John Lennon's great song; "Imagine"? I'm going to go ahead and post the lirics, because I want this too. Imagine lyrics "Imagine" Imagine there's no heavenIt's easy if you tryNo hell below usAbove us only skyImagine all the peopleLiving for today... Aha-ah...Imagine there's no countriesIt isn't hard to doNothing to kill or die forAnd no religion, tooImagine all the peopleLiving life in peace... You...You may say I'm a dreamerBut I'm not the only oneI hope someday you'll join usAnd the world will be as oneImagine no possessionsI wonder if you canNo need for greed or hungerA brotherhood of manImagine all the peopleSharing all the world... You...You may say I'm a dreamerBut I'm not the only oneI hope someday you'll join usAnd the world will live as one I want to join John Lennon; ...and no Religion too. Please... Know Yourself. Thank you Mr Lennon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 8 members, 48 guests, 1 anonymous users Know Yourself! Hello Members and Guests, and Welcome! I hope that you find what you need; But why not join and ask questions! Just call me Gilligan. Cheers! ps: That wonderful Movie, The Matrix, was profoundly Allegorical: The Matrix: Symbolism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 7 members, 66 guests, 2 anonymous users Know Thyself! Welcome Members and honored Guests! Today I'd like to talk about the Symbolism of "Gilligan's Island". Everyone's seen it, right? Here On The Island - by Lewis Napper A Scholarly Critique of the Style, Symbolism and Sociopolitical Relevance of Gilligan's Island Great works of literature often attempt to confront us with the obvious in such a way as to call the inevitable into question. Some strive to explain through metaphor that which is too complex or too abstract to state literally. Other forms seek only to capture some moment in time so that future generations may experience and learn from what has gone before them. All of these qualities are ambitiously gathered in Sherwood Schwartz's masterwork, "Gilligan's Island." Through a thin veil of canned laughter, unpretentious slap-stick, and inexpensive production the complete modern sociopolitical predicament is brought to the light of day. The island symbolizes society -- any modern western society. It presents a canvas for painting all of the issues of the latest, greatest countries. A simple vehicle with clear boundaries designed to remove all irrelevant, external stimuli from the story and its message. Simplify to clarify. Thanks for visiting! Join the amazing Castaways. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 28, 2016 Author Share Posted June 28, 2016 5 members, 47 guests Know Yourself! Good evening favored Guests! Welcome to our humble abode. Here is Dr Stephen Hawking, Sheldon's Hero. Cheers! www.goodreads.com “For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination. We learned to talk and we learned to listen. Speech has allowed the communication of ideas, enabling human beings to work together to build the impossible. Mankind's greatest achievements have come about by talking, and its greatest failures by not talking. It doesn't have to be like this. Our greatest hopes could become reality in the future. With the technology at our disposal, the possibilities are unbounded. All we need to do is make sure we keep talking.”― Stephen Hawking Even if there is only one possible unified theory, it is just a set of rules and equations. What is it that breathes fire into the equations and makes a universe for them to describe? The usual approach of science of constructing a mathematical model cannot answer the questions of why there should be a universe for the model to describe. Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing?”― Stephen Hawking, A Brief History of Time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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