Fweethawt Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I thought a thread like this would be fun for anyone to contribute to. I happened to watch a video (see below) today of one of the most terrible trees I've ever heard of in my life. While watching this, I thought of how many Christians think that their god is characteristic of the description in the thread title while at the same time, completely ignoring certain things that "He" supposedly created that, if indeed were created, were designed simply to cause tremendous pain, suffering and death. Which of course leads to huge contradictions when trying to reconcile these with a 'Loving Creator . If anyone can think of any other terrible things in reality that Christians believe are signs and evidence of a loving creator god, please feel free to post links or info here. I would imagine some things may even be graphic in nature. If so, please give a bit of a warning for the squeamish. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 While the unlikely creation of "god", I think that Darwin would show it as an obvious example of Evolution(Natural Selection) in action. It seems like a great survival stategy for the tree. I like it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted June 24, 2016 Super Moderator Share Posted June 24, 2016 Justin Bieber. Kanye West. Nickelback. Also, Necrotizing Fasciitis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjn Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 When it's beautiful: God.When it's not: Satan, or the Fall! Convenient innit? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Fire ants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator buffettphan Posted June 24, 2016 Super Moderator Share Posted June 24, 2016 WARNING: The video in the spoiler might be considered too graphic and squeamish. "Onchocerciasis, also known as river blindness and Robles disease, is a disease caused by infection with the parasitic worm Onchocerca volvulus.[1] Symptoms include severe itching, bumps under the skin, and blindness.[1] It is the second most common cause of blindness due to infection, after trachoma.[2] The parasite worm is spread by the bites of a black fly of the Simulium type.[1] Usually many bites are required before infection occurs.[3] These flies live near rivers, hence the name of the disease.[2] Once inside a person, the worms create larvae that make their way out to the skin.[1] Here they can infect the next black fly that bites the person.[1] There are a number of ways to make the diagnosis including: placing a biopsy of the skin in normal saline and watching for the larva to come out, looking in the eye for larvae, and looking within the bumps under the skin for adult worms.[4] A vaccine against the disease does not exist.[1] Prevention is by avoiding being bitten by flies.[5] This may include the use of insect repellent and proper clothing.[5] Other efforts include those to decrease the fly population by spraying insecticides.[1] Efforts to eradicate the disease by treating entire groups of people twice a year is ongoing in a number of areas of the world.[1] Treatment of those infected is with the medication ivermectin every six to twelve months.[1][6] This treatment kills the larva but not the adult worms.[7] The medication doxycycline, which kills an associated bacterium called Wolbachia, appears to weaken the worms and is recommended by some as well.[7]Removal of the lumps under the skin by surgery may also be done.[6] About 17 to 25 million people are infected with river blindness, with approximately 0.8 million having some amount of loss of vision.[3][7] Most infections occur in sub-Saharan Africa..." < snipped > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onchocerciasis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Having a poison available, if living in that region, to use on an arrow is a good thing, I would think, if you or your family were in danger. More info and the source: It is rare tropical plant, growing only in specific areas. Eating the fruit usually causes abdominal pain, vomiting, bleeding and digestive tract damage, Nellis adds. Death is widely considered a risk, but mortality data for ingesting the manchineel fruit — informally known as a "beach apple" — are scarce.The tree holds a cocktail of toxins, including hippomanin A and B as well as some yet to be identified. (It is yet to be seen what other toxins or uses for this plant) Manchineel also has peaceful uses. Normally a hefty shrub, it can grow up to 50 feet tall, producing toxic timber that has long tempted Caribbean carpenters. And despite the danger, people have used manchineel to make furniture for centuries, carefully cutting the wood and then drying it in the sun to neutralize its poisonous sap. Native people even used manchineel as medicine: A gum made from the bark can reportedly treat edema, while dried fruits have been used as a diuretic. People tend to leave manchineel alone, both for obvious reasons and because even this poison-obsessed tree provides ecosystem services. It's a natural windbreak and fights beach erosion, for instance, a useful service in the face of rising sea levels and bigger Atlantic storms. And since biotoxins can inspire beneficial scientific breakthroughs like safer pesticides from scorpion venom or pain medicine from cone snails, it's probably worth keeping manchineel around — at a safe distance. http://www.mnn.com/family/protection-safety/blogs/why-manchineel-might-be-earths-most-dangerous-tree The manchineel tree can be found on coastal beaches and in brackish swamps where it grows among mangroves. It provides excellent natural windbreaks and its roots stabilize the sand, thus helping to prevent beach erosion.While the plant is toxic for many birds and animals, the 'garrobo' (striped iguana), for example, is known to eat the fruit and even live among the limbs of the tree.[3] The fruit is possibly fatal if eaten; however, "fatalities from ingestion are not reported in the modern literature" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchineel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjn Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Let's not forget all those wonderful things like pathogens (viruses, bacteria, fungi, parasites) and hereditary diseases. If God created all things, I assume he also made the genes coding for, let's say, psychopathy, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and intellectual retardation. Neurological and psychological disorders are particularly interesting, as they could affect an individuals abilitiy to believe or not believe in God a great deal. Can someone who's severerly retarded even grasp the concept of God? Are they condemned from the onset? Glory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Metabolism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Fire ants I agree they are pesky and can be invasive. They are dangerous, caution must be observed. We had a lot of them a few years ago but now they seem to have retreated from our area. Not really sure why yet. I looked them up and found they do have some good attributes. http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/galveston/beneficials/beneficial-56(partial)_red_imported_fire_ant.htm The Good: •Fire ants voraciously consume populations of fleas, ticks, termites, cockroaches, chinch bugs, mosquito eggs and larva, scorpions, etc. After learning this, I realize that it really has been years since I last set off a flea bomb. A non-overstated culinary creed for fire ants could be the following: If it will stay still for a bit . . . then it's dinner! •Fire ants are extremely effective in controlling plant-feeding insects and arthropods such as boll weevils in cotton and stinkbugs in soybean. Under some conditions fire ants keep the pest populations below the level of economic loss providing a financial savings to growers. •Fire ants can benefit such crops as cotton, sugarcane, and soybean because they aerate and break up the soil making more water and nutrients available to the plants. •Auburn University/Alabama Agricultural Experimental Station and Texas A&M/Texas Agricultural Experimental Station studies have demonstrated that fire ants can kill other costly agricultural pests which do more economical harm than they do. These insects include the corn worms, cotton flea hopper, army caterpillars, and sugarcane borers. •After a colony vacates a mound in your garden, you are left with beautifully aerated and tilled soil. •Humans are not at the top of the fire ant food pyramid as long as we keep moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Will someone give me one single thing that mosquitos do to help Man in any way? If some "god" created the World, just for us, then why provide us with these nasty creatures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 7 members, 51 guests, 1 anonymous users A friendly welcome to our Guests! Socrates was to Plato, as Jesus was to Paul. We will do our best to answer your questions. Join us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted June 24, 2016 Super Moderator Share Posted June 24, 2016 Vibrio cholerae, bacillus anthracis, corynebacterium diptheriae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Hey, sorry about posting my Welcome in the wrong place. But did you see Margee's pic of the mosquito? Post 33. Why didn't Noah swat those two mosquitoes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator florduh Posted June 24, 2016 Super Moderator Share Posted June 24, 2016 So either Noah took all the created deadly bacteria on the boat or they were created later. Does the theology of our resident Christians allow for a second creation or was everything created in the first week like it says in Genesis? Would bacteria also get on the boat two by two? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 So either Noah took all the created deadly bacteria on the boat or they were created later. Does the theology of our resident Christians allow for a second creation or was everything created in the first week like it says in Genesis? Would bacteria also get on the boat two by two? Why? Great thought, florduh. This would go great on "To Our Guests". I will do it if you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator florduh Posted June 24, 2016 Super Moderator Share Posted June 24, 2016 qadeshet, I'm flattered and glad you liked my thoughts on this subject. Feel free to take any of my meanderings and copy, move, publish or make a movie!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 qadeshet, I'm flattered and glad you liked my thoughts on this subject. Feel free to take any of my meanderings and copy, move, publish or make a movie!!! Done. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fweethawt Posted June 24, 2016 Author Share Posted June 24, 2016 qadeshet, I'm flattered and glad you liked my thoughts on this subject. Feel free to take any of my meanderings and copy, move, publish or make a movie!!! Done. Thanks! You made a movie?!? Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadeshet Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 qadeshet, I'm flattered and glad you liked my thoughts on this subject. Feel free to take any of my meanderings and copy, move, publish or make a movie!!! Done. Thanks! You made a movie?!? Wow! I must be faster than I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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