SkepticalDaniel Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 "He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD." -Proverbs 17:15 (KJV) The above is a typical passage used by Fundamentalist Christians to condemn those who justify things like homosexuality, and condemn those who speak against it. However, if you look at the passage from the Jewish perspective without a Jesus-filter on, the meaning of the passage completely changes, and you can easily tear Christianity apart. But let's really just think about the passage for a moment from the original Hebrew: "He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD." The word for "justifieth" in this passage is Strong's Hebrew #6663, which means "to be (causatively make) right (in a moral or forensic sense): - cleanse, clear self, (be, do) just (-ice, -ify, -ify self), (be, turn to) righteous (-ness)." The word "wicked" in the passage is Strong's Hebrew #7563, which means "morally wrong; concretely an (actively) bad person: - + condemned, guilty, ungodly, wicked (man), that did wrong." The word "just" in the passage is Strong's Hebrew #6662, which means "just: - just, lawful, righteous (man)." Hmmm... sounds like it's beginning to sound more like condemning a righteous man and acquitting a criminal. Now let's really think about this in terms of Jesus's sacrifice. According to the Christian-worldview, Jesus was a righteous man who was condemned for the sins of all of humanity, who are considered wicked in order to justify them. See the problem? The Old Testament makes it abundantly clear that no one can die for another man in order to relieve him of his wrongs, and to hammer down this point, here's another passage: "And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree: His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God;) that thy land be not defiled, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance." -Deuteronomy 21:22-23 (KJV) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinntar Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 "He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD." -Proverbs 17:15 (KJV) The above is a typical passage used by Fundamentalist Christians to condemn those who justify things like homosexuality, and condemn those who speak against it. However, if you look at the passage from the Jewish perspective without a Jesus-filter on, the meaning of the passage completely changes, and you can easily tear Christianity apart. But let's really just think about the passage for a moment from the original Hebrew: "He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD." The word for "justifieth" in this passage is Strong's Hebrew #6663, which means "to be (causatively make) right (in a moral or forensic sense): - cleanse, clear self, (be, do) just (-ice, -ify, -ify self), (be, turn to) righteous (-ness)." The word "wicked" in the passage is Strong's Hebrew #7563, which means "morally wrong; concretely an (actively) bad person: - + condemned, guilty, ungodly, wicked (man), that did wrong." The word "just" in the passage is Strong's Hebrew #6662, which means "just: - just, lawful, righteous (man)." Hmmm... sounds like it's beginning to sound more like condemning a righteous man and acquitting a criminal. Now let's really think about this in terms of Jesus's sacrifice. According to the Christian-worldview, Jesus was a righteous man who was condemned for the sins of all of humanity, who are considered wicked in order to justify them. See the problem? The Old Testament makes it abundantly clear that no one can die for another man in order to relieve him of his wrongs, and to hammer down this point, here's another passage: "And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree: His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God;) that thy land be not defiled, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance." -Deuteronomy 21:22-23 (KJV) Do you honestly think that when you leave Christianity you automatically turn pro homosexuality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkepticalDaniel Posted July 7, 2016 Author Share Posted July 7, 2016 "He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD." -Proverbs 17:15 (KJV) The above is a typical passage used by Fundamentalist Christians to condemn those who justify things like homosexuality, and condemn those who speak against it. However, if you look at the passage from the Jewish perspective without a Jesus-filter on, the meaning of the passage completely changes, and you can easily tear Christianity apart. But let's really just think about the passage for a moment from the original Hebrew: "He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD." The word for "justifieth" in this passage is Strong's Hebrew #6663, which means "to be (causatively make) right (in a moral or forensic sense): - cleanse, clear self, (be, do) just (-ice, -ify, -ify self), (be, turn to) righteous (-ness)." The word "wicked" in the passage is Strong's Hebrew #7563, which means "morally wrong; concretely an (actively) bad person: - + condemned, guilty, ungodly, wicked (man), that did wrong." The word "just" in the passage is Strong's Hebrew #6662, which means "just: - just, lawful, righteous (man)." Hmmm... sounds like it's beginning to sound more like condemning a righteous man and acquitting a criminal. Now let's really think about this in terms of Jesus's sacrifice. According to the Christian-worldview, Jesus was a righteous man who was condemned for the sins of all of humanity, who are considered wicked in order to justify them. See the problem? The Old Testament makes it abundantly clear that no one can die for another man in order to relieve him of his wrongs, and to hammer down this point, here's another passage: "And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree: His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God;) that thy land be not defiled, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance." -Deuteronomy 21:22-23 (KJV) Do you honestly think that when you leave Christianity you automatically turn pro homosexuality. I never said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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