RHEMtron Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 i think it would be a good idea to list references down for our newly deconverted exchristians, those in the process of deconverting, and for xtians who need to open their minds to the truth. it could be websites with essays, scholarly work, etc.... or even names of books and authors. ill go first, and if you guys think it's a good idea... just add on. websites: Agnostic Review of Christianity [a favorite of mine and SkepticOfBible] Rejection of Pascal's Wager History of Christianity and the Bible Apocyrphas Index books: The New Testament : A Historical Introduction to the Early Christian Writings by Bart Ehrman The Lost Bible: Forgotten Scriptures Revealed by JR Porter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loren Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Thanks, RHEMtron. I would also suggest reading any of the links under the "Introductory Stuff" heading on the left side of the main page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxic Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 "The Born Again Skeptics Guide to the Bible" by Ruth Hermance Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkepticOfBible Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Some really good JEWISH counter missionary website Messiah Truth(Comprehensive but really good) MESSIANIC VERSES IN TANACH Counter Missionary Reference( an index to various "proof texts" used by missionaries from theOT & discussions on those verses by various counter missionary websites_ I think this is in the wrong section. It should be either in ex-christian life or general theological discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checkmate Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 i think it would be a good idea to list references down for our newly deconverted exchristians, those in the process of deconverting, and for xtians who need to open their minds to the truth. it could be websites with essays, scholarly work, etc.... or even names of books and authors. ill go first, and if you guys think it's a good idea... just add on. Done and done. I've already got stuff listed in Mr. Grinch's Blog. And I'll add these for good measure: Ebon Musings: The Atheism Pages Jesus Never Existed Losing My Religion (Companion site to the Agnostic Review) Be set free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gliph Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Good post! I know I'm looking for new stuff to read all the time... A few of my favorites: Why Won't God Heal Amputees - an excellent introduction to why xtianity isn't right. this is a great resource for those who want a "softer" approach to moving away from their beliefs. Pagan Origins of the Christian Myth - a look at where xtianity came from, including its roots in other religions that were around LONG before xtianity What the hell is hell - wondering where/when the concept of HELL came from? this site is a good introduction. Hmm, maybe this should be in a different forum, or a sticky somewhere... or it might be nice to keep an organized list by topic? I'd be happy to help get some stuff compiled together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosingMyReligion Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 lol I think I'll look into "why god won't heal amputees." I thank you all as a new ex-christian. This site has been great for me. It is very theraputic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Demona- Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 One of our own, Dr. Jason Long, wrote the book Biblical Nonsense. It's worth a read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godless Wonder Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 First up: Deconversion Stories (you're not alone): First a couple very long but very excellent ones: http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72552 http://www.curiouslittlemonkey.com/faith.shtml And some shorter, more numerous ones: http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=35947 http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~slocks/be/list.html http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/tes...als/index.shtml http://www.users.bigpond.com/pmurray/exchristian/ http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/ (scroll down to "Deconversion stories") and last, but certainly not least, from this site: http://www.ex-christian.net/index.php?showforum=5 Next up: http://ebonmusings.org/ <-- this site is pretty awesome. Biblical errancy... thorough to a fault: http://members.aol.com/ckbloomfld/index.html In the same vein: http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/ Ok, but often criticised, and rightly so, for somewhat poor research and scholarship. Suffers from "nitpicking" too much, and not concentrationg mostly on the real problems. Bertrand Russell's "Why I am not a Christian" essay: http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/russell0.htm (positiveatheism.org is well worth checking out.) Next up: Forums: iidb.org (granddaddy of atheism discussion forums, -- excluding alt.atheism which suffers from being, well, usenet -- lots of good stuff here, and at infidels.org in general.) http://infidelguy.com (internet radio show, plus a forum) And, you already found ex-christian.net. Next up: Just some info about the world's religions and where they are believed and who believes (or doesn't.) http://adherents.com/ Last, a little pointed, cutting, incisive humor: http://www.jhuger.com/kisshank.php http://www.extian.org/home.htm http://thewaronfaith.com/ This next one is raptureready.com as viewed through the "pornolizer"... good for a sophmoric laugh if you're in thsy sort of mood. http://www.pornolize.com/pornolize4?lang=e...ubmit=Translate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEMtron Posted March 30, 2006 Author Share Posted March 30, 2006 wow... good jog godless!! i meant for this thread to help other people, but it looks like it's gonna help me too haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxic Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 I hesitate to recommend "The Book Your Church Doesn't Want You TO Read" as much of the information in it is at best apocraphyl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 http://www.christianitymeme.org/ is a pretty good explanation of how Christianity gets into your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin webmdave Posted April 11, 2006 Admin Share Posted April 11, 2006 For testimonies, don't forget http://exchristian.net/testimonies . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunNSand4me Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 In the same vein: http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/ Ok, but often criticised, and rightly so, for somewhat poor research and scholarship. Suffers from "nitpicking" too much, and not concentrationg mostly on the real problems. I turn to the Skeptics Annotated Bible when I need a laugh. I read so many serious apologetics/criticisms, that it's good to take a breather. I literally laugh at loud at a lot of the info posted there, and the webmaster just combined the "highlights" of each book onto one page. Take a look: http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/highlights.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minus 196 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 I just discovered the Skeptic's Annotated Bible, myself, and I absolutely love it. It may not have the academic mystique of some of the other sites, but I think its more casual layout with the iconic annotations actually give it more of an immediate impact in many ways. I now link to it whenever I quote scripture in my blog so that the Christians I'm addressing end up taking a peek. It's a real eye opener. ____ Minus 196 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest starseyer Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 Lot of great links here. In addition I recommend Faith Dissolved, a sort of journal by a girl I knew from the extian mailing list. Good reading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 http://www.freethoughtfirefighters.com/ This is the link to the old site: http://freethoughtfirefighters.org/index2.html (I pinned the topic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishapod Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 A good read: GodIsImaginary.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEMtron Posted June 2, 2006 Author Share Posted June 2, 2006 just wanted to restart this thread for the new people, and to also add: Jesus Did Not Exist Evil Bible Truth About the Trinity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterspock1 Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 One of the books that really helped me was "Losing Faith in Faith" by Dan Barker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEMtron Posted June 28, 2006 Author Share Posted June 28, 2006 Another thing to do is type in anything Christian related into Wikipedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KT45 Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_myth http://www.christianism.com/ http://www.thebricktestament.com/ http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim...radictions.html http://www.whywontgodhealamputees.com/ http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/ http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/out-of-egypt.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEMtron Posted July 20, 2006 Author Share Posted July 20, 2006 http://www.crosswalk.com/ Although a Christian site, the concordance and lexicon tools are very helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madie Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 very very helpful information. thanks guys. actually, when i first began to have doubts and when everything started to seem cultish to me--this website also really helped: http://www.sullivan-county.com/news/fundie_cults/index.htm then it just began to snowball from there and I finally "saw the light". They also suggest the bood "Leaving the Fold"--haven't read it yet, but heard it's really helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightley Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Great reference, I'm glad we have this thread. However, having read through this thread, some of these links are being repeated and its only page 2. Before someone posts a link, please check that it hasn't already been posted. Another great resource is Becoming Human its on evolution, great for a newbie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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