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con·tro·ver·sy / noun / disagreement, typically when prolonged, public, and heated. "the announcement ended a protracted controversy" synonyms: disagreement, dispute, argument, debate, dissension, contention, disputation, altercation, wrangle, quarrel, squabble, war of words, storm; This "club" has almost nothing to do with recovering from Christianity. You will find here partisan politics, controversy, conflict and baiting. Please confine all such non-encouraging discussions to this area. And, please play nice.

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  2. Two guns John Wick style. Works every time.
  3. I took the day off today and interviewed with two local labs. Not sure what the results will be. Maybe they make offers; maybe they don't. Maybe I accept...
  4. I suspect the difference here is how one defines what is off the cuff humour and what isn't.
  5. I have listened to Rush off and on for decades and have never, ever, heard him trash anyone for speaking their minds. I have never heard him trash women just for the their gender. That said for you to say "Do some reading and try to open your mind" when you have no clue as to how much reading I have done and how open minded I am IS, in fact, an attempt to deride, denigrate, put me down, and slander my intelligence - simply because you disagree with me. If you want so see someone who needs to open his mind - look in the mirror! Keep in mind Rush is, first and foremost, an entertainer. Each time Each time someone responds to his off the cuff humor his entertainment value is increased.
  6. In what sense??? I have heard him berate, denigrate impune and just plain trash any woman who can speak intelligently and articulately. He has referred to feminists as “feminazis,” Georgetown Law student Sandra Fluke as a “slut” and a “prostitute” and female cabinet members as “Sex-cretary of State” and “Sex-cretary of [Health and Human Services].” Do some reading and try honestly try to open your mind
  7. I feel this one fits the current state of the world.
  8. Meh. I've tried Stoicism; it's nothing to get excited about. Actually, that really is helpful. It's a good reminder of the better self I'd like to imagine becoming someday.
  9. Perhaps this may provide some encouragement: https://dailystoic.com/marcus-aurelius-leadership-during-a-pandemic/
  10. More than just a test of my character, this pandemic is becoming a moment of Gethsemane in my life. I am content working as an electrician. It was a considerable pay cut; but I'm still able to look after me and mine such that we need for nothing. My mind is more at ease without the worry of patients being impacted by mistakes on my part. Even my colleagues, though often as annoying as they are ignorant, are good-natured fellows who are unlikely to go whining to HR on the rare occasion that my off-beat sense of humor takes precedent over my better judgement. It is My Will to stay here. But somehow, despite having extremely conservative, right-winger parents, I grew up believing in the embetterment of the collective, of putting the needs of others before the wants of one. Something about having jesus as a childhood superhero instilled in me the virtue of sacrificing self for the greater good. People are dying; and I could be doing more to stop it. But it is Not My Will ...?
  11. I'm sorry to hear this prof. There is still a good chance that he'll do just fine. Hopefully everyone will come out of this trying just a bit harder to be a bit healthier to reduce the risks they can control. (Not saying this the case with your colleague, but if it is, hopefully he'll come out of this with new resolve after he's recovered).
  12. I found out today that one of my colleagues at the electrical company tested positive for COVID. He is 61 years old and has high blood pressure. He also has a wife and two middle school age kids. The other guys from that jobsite are all scared; and rightly so.
  13. Estrogen Toxicity Testosterone Poisoning.
  14. I hate misandry and misogyny equally. Perhaps I can post a thread bashing crazy evil misogynists!
  15. What's so difficult in telling the difference between a crazy person and relatively sane person? Adopt the "do no harm to sentient beings" perspective and you'll have no trouble at all separating the crazies.
  16. I'm with you, Prof. I've thought a lot about this during the last three weeks or so. Many years ago I worked with a woman who, when we were discussing some conflict or issue that had arisen in our large institution, would frequently say, "It all comes down to money." And I think that phrase could be applied to every aspect of our current problems. We have everything we need to solve the problems. We could have stopped the virus, we could care for the sick, feed the hungry, and correct every other problem that we face. There is no excuse for someone to go hungry; no excuse for someone to die because they don't have money for health care. But in the end, my friend was right. Right down the road from here there are dairies that are dumping milk, while some folks not 60 miles away are standing in charity lines to get something to eat. And it's because money stands between the hungry and the food. As I think more about it, money is just the vehicle for greed. From what I understand about some cultures, the individual is subordinate to the group. I've heard that in some places, in response to the virus, they have over 90 percent compliance with mask wearing. People realize that their individual desires are secondary to what is best for the group. Yet the American experience is based on the concept of "rugged individualism." The self is primary; the group is only for affirming the self. I'm reminded of the Indian chief who went back to Washington with Lewis and Clark. He was shocked to see poor people in the street, and said, "In our culture no one goes hungry." And I'm also reminded of the tribe in the American southwest where the accumulation of personal possessions was looked down upon as a sign of greed. Yet here we have a dysfunctional system that is rotting and being picked away like the possum carcass down the road from my house. And what can I do? Damn. Escape? Not possible. Fix it? Not possible. Ignore it like so many are doing? No. The only thing I think I can do is to be the nail in the horseshoe from the fable of how the war was lost. Perhaps, by doing what little I can do, I can keep the shoe on the horse and there will be a collective result. Will there be a perfect solution? I don't think so. Will it be better? I don't know. I think this is the end of the American empire. One thing is for sure. In November I plan to vote.
  17. The scary thing is that society actually views that kind of misandry/feminazism as acceptable. It's unfortunately got harder to be able to tell the difference between "good" feminists and the feminazis.
  18. Happy - but not surprised - that you are a fan of Jim Stockdale, Dave! He is one of my heroes. The documents you linked make great reading. Anybody would benefit from these ideas but I think they’re especially useful for the Ex-Christian. We could do a lot worse in any situation than ask: What Would Epictetus Do? What Would Jim Stockdale Do? No need to treat them as deities, just as wise people whose teachings rival the best of scripture - without any of the bad stuff.
  19. R.I.P. Little Richard https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/little-richard-dead-48505/
  20. Damn it, @webmdave, just let me wallow in my self-pity for a little bit, okay?

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