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I'm almost 1000 hours through cosmetology school! I have 500 more to go but this is a really big accomplishment for me. I had to drop out for five months and I also struggle with acute depression so I am very proud of myself right now.
Just because a person is an atheist/non religious doesn't mean that they're suitable to be a lifetime partner. Likewise, just because a person is a Christian, doesn't mean that they're unsuitable. If I had to commit to marriage I would rather have a faithful, stable, Christian wife than some of the individuals I've seen in the atheist community so far. Of course, I don't know the whole story or what else could have gone into her decision (besides pressure from her Christian mother and her child).
(Sorry, I meant to reply directly to your status but posted here by accident, I can't delete this now).
I'm disappointed, that one of the girls that I knew from the Christian home groups is engaged now to a Christian. She had 2 year break from Christianity on her own will, met a secular man that became her boyfriend...she got pregnant and after short time she broke up with him.
I had hope that she is an intelligent enough to see what Christianity is trully all about.
I guess a pressure from her Christian mother and perspective to live alone with a kid was too much to handle without God.
Sometimes I lose hope, if I will ever be able to come out to my church and not be pressured to come back :/
My issue with Christianity is more basic than plastivore's. There is a mountain of historical evidence that demonstrates that it just ain't true. Historical research indicates the Bible is a collection of fictional stories with fictional characters. Christianity is just one of many man made religions. Historians have never found a historical Jesus or Paul either outside the gospels & epistles.
That's fair enough. But I'm wondering if you are hoping to start from a point of assuming that there is a purpose to the universe, or to start somewhere else and try to demonstrate that there is good reason to think that the universe has a purpose. These are two very different philosophical positions.
I was taking the public bus home from work last night, when a lady struck up a conversation with me about nutrition. During this conversation she asked me directly, "Do you believe in Jesus as your savior?"
In the past, I would have projected fear of her response and said yes just to keep the peace, but this time, I flat out said no.
She didn't try to convert me or anything.
Is your issue with the metaphysical nature of the divine, however you define that, with hypocrisy on the part of adherents, or issues with the human imperfections of the church, or something else? Also, are you coming from a "people are bad and sinful and can only be redeemed by x" POV or more of a progressive social gospel good works and being ethical bent?
Do you take your scopes to a particular site, or just view from your back yard? Just wondering because obviously finding a dark site is good, but that limits the size of the scope for travel portability?
I was thinking of getting a Ute as well and using the deck as a mounting platform... but may not be stable enough. (The ute wouldn't just be for astronomy )