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  1. Depending on the situation , how about leave with/without pay pending investigation. An allegation of unwanted sexual advances/touching is often a crime. An employee who is a crime victim should be required to file a police report as part of the company's sexual harrassment reporting protocol. I'm old, white and a male and I would not deem it fair to be terminated because someone lied to the boss about my groping them. Would you, a young white (?) male happily leave your employment for the greater good of the women and children of the world if you had been merely accuse
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  2. I don't buy it. (no offense to you MM, I'm referring to the movement, not you or your opinion) It's just been a witch hunt and a tit for tat against political enemies. 90% of those in the movement will vote for Creepy Joe if he is the DNC nominee. If there are real abusers, give them their day in court. This is just vigilantism.
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  3. One of the biggest 'fights' I had with the invisible god was why he would make humans the way he made them? When I was dabbling in evolution, I came to find out that girls start their menstrual cycles very early in life so they can have babies. I was 8 years old. Ready to have babies and reproduce because that's what the menstrual cycle is all about. And I developed very early. Mom bought me my first bra at nine years old and I wanted to die of embarrassment. I was still playing with Barbie dolls but was fully developed. And I also felt those sexual feelings at that age but would NEVER tell a
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  4. I've just uploaded a new video to YouTube and I would be grateful for any comments, perceptions and/or feedback. Thanks! Robert Collins "If Jesus Christ’s resurrection is true, why does he have two tombs?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yDC1l7Hyw8
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  5. I do really like this point. Basing the argument first on strong philosophical foundations, then on good supporting science. Brilliant point. I was just listening to Krauss on "A Universe from nothing - A discussion with Dawkins" in which he basically says just this. They talked about a hypothetical observer in 1 trillion years, and noted that by that point the universe through entropy would have erased all evidence of its beginning. Thus a person living there would concluded that their galaxy, and possibly their solar system was the only one and had been there forever.
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  6. That's a huge part of what's being left out of this conversation, that male people are generally stronger. Though this fact doesn't mean men should be put to the fire for simply being men, it adds credence to the narratives about being extra cautious and expecting the worst before anything else. Personal story: I once reported a male coworker who was not harassing me, but was harassing another female coworker. He kept asking her for a chance with him on break. He was also a friend of our boss. She didn't want to speak up because in her previous job, her boss fired her for reporting
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  7. So you're looking at what they are putting on display? You perv! You should be ashamed of your natural attraction to the female body. /sarcasm. Then again, why DO women wear makeup? And (in this younger generation) often let half their boobs hang out? And wear OMFG so very short shorts? haha I used to remind my daughter that whatever you put on display for the public, EVERYONE is watching. Not just hot 22 year old guy. Lecherous old farts are checking you out too. Retina stains. lol. That's good.
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  8. You are correct. Accusations should not be treated neutral. One should not be fired from their job on an allegation. An allegation should not be swept under the rug. The chances of something happening to an innocent guy is probably pretty small unless you're in Hollywood and as time goes on I think measures will naturally start falling into place to promote women's reporting of sex crimes while preventing liars wreaking havoc with innocent men's lives. Anecdote to follow: A young woman comes into the cop shop (with family) to file a rape report. After being grilled by a
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  9. Yes. @Orbit I just finished it two weeks ago. it's a quick read and, mostly, self-help relating to what battles you should fight and which ones to let go. Mr. James identifies several types of assholes - my favorite being the self-aggrandizing asshole - because I not only work for one but I have encountered a few of Mrs. MOHO's fundy friends who fit that caricature as well. The last 100 pp or so is the author's rant about what he feels is asshole capitalism. He does not appear to be anti-capitalist in general but feels there are many who spoil the concept. A
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  10. Holy shit that is stupid, authoritarian and evil. I'm sure HR departments love it. This is a great example of why Americans need contracts with their employers and worker protections like the free, civilized world has. I'm honestly starting to believe that liberals are more dangerous than conservatives. Willing to ruin a person's life (and yes, being fired for something like this would ruin most lives, and the lives of their wives and children too) for a mere allegation.
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  11. Accusations of CB and actually demonstrating it are two very different animals.
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  12. I believe Orbit is saying coercion does not mean choice. It means being forced.
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  13. You mean knowledge of sin at some point, right? Well 27 is a bit old to not be aware of any wrong doing on your own part.
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  14. If left alone the vast majority of children would grow up to be atheist. It takes a community to teach religion. But which religion depends on the community. Why would God allow millions of people to burn in hell forever simply because they were born in the wrong community?
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  15. Believers have to scramble to make the Bible's words work in the real world. There are many contradictions, demonstrable errors and unaddressed doctrinal questions. Since people must accept Jesus to get into Heaven and avoid Hell, the problem of children arises. Some believer responses include the invention of an "age of accountability" before which one gets a pass and others insist that a baby must be baptized or they won't make it to Heaven should they die young. Some take a quite different and unbiblical approach in that while accepting Christianity as their Truth, there must also be other
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  16. Yes, I think that's the gist of it. Mark seemed to be pointing out that what the apologist's are claiming is fine tuned, is simply the natural order according to how the cards fell. He could establish that. And then he could move forward and show how what is natural, but the apologist's claim is fine tuned, is something that more than likely didn't just start with our universe and wouldn't stop with our universe either. So the special and privileged aspect of their apologetic's takes another big hit. Further down the line, one could imagine how that relates to something like the b
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  17. All true. But the issue was raised about the overwhelming presence of atheists, a want or need for spiritual thinking, and an off putting feeling being felt around the website. What I'm suggesting is not any destination aside from learning how to interact with an atheist majority environment, which is what ex christians in general tend to encompass. There are ways in which to learn to understand and interact with the majority of atheists that can be gleaned here in this section and then applied to moving out beyond this "safe zone," so to speak. It has to do with the off putting i
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  18. Ah yes, the age of accountability. Well, what age do you think they would be accountable end3. Give me a ballpark figure.
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  19. But only one thing gets you entry into heaven, right?
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  20. I don't think you're fully cognizant of the topic here. Your input here was that at a workplace you're not supposed to pursue women but to keep it all respectfully professional. That's fine, and others have seconded this. It's not the point of contention, however. This thread is about accusations being enough reason to exact punishment. About there being no due process, no presumption of innocence, and treating lack of tact the same as serious sexual assault. Please get on board with the premises of this discussion.
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  21. Kids are indoctrinated from birth (I was), they really don't have a choice. They just get pressured to affirm what their parents want them to "choose" when in fact it's required, not a choice at all. The parents sigh a breath of relief because they then believe their coerced child is "saved'.
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  23. They have also tried holding peaceful, candle light vigils outside the police stations when unarmed people get gunned down. That doesn't seem to work either. I'm not sure that any kind of protest will convince white supremacists or their sympathizers to change our system. I can understand why black people keep trying. If my children were black I would be going crazy trying to figure out how to ask this country's police to not (legally) murder my kids. Maybe if we listened to non-violent protests then a lot more protests would be non-violent?
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  24. I jumped on a plane yesterday, and during a sudden moment of turbulence I automatically began to pray to god. I immediately stopped myself, realising the ridiculousness of my thoughts, then laughed out loud, as my fellow passengers looked at me strangely. Does this mean I am fully deconverted? Do I get a members jacket now?
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  25. If your boat is heavily laden then it sits low in the water which makes it more likely to take on water and easier to swamp. A light boat sits higher so can ride the waves better.
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  26. This isn't serious. When I was younger and much better looking than I am now, I had done to me regularly what would be considered off limits if it occurred to women today. I found it flattering as I'm sure sane women do. It's wrong to hold someone's job over there head for sexual favors. We all know this and there are laws against it. But nothing wrong with allowing people to be human and interact like humans without getting all uptight about it. That some do now is a societal sickness. It's not healthy and it's probably just one more tactic the elite uses to keep society divided
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  27. This sums up the situation, and it is this concern that resulted in Fwee's #metoo thread. Fwee was drawing attention to the fact that this has gone from genuine concern to witch hunt. There is no longer justice. It's trial by social media, often by anonymous females who face no repercussions if their allegations are false. Like you I am very cautious about my behavior in the workplace. Do not get caught alone with a woman. One day women are going to complain that men don't compliment them, that there's no romance. And I'm like well I fucking wond
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  28. That is arguable.
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  29. I'm working on the Extimony project, datamining the "Testimonies of Former Christians" from 2005-2017 (thanks to webmdave for permission to do this). We're doing word clouds today, which show the relative frequency of concepts appearing in the extimonies; the more the concept is mentioned, the bigger the word in the cloud. The words on the edges are important too, though. Although we already could guess this, it's nice to have statistical backup instead of just making generalizations. I thought I'd share the first cloud result.
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  30. Some of them have taken to merely kneeling during the national anthem before football games but somehow this has been called disrespectful of our military. I don't get it. Personally I don't feel any guilt. I simply think black people shouldn't have to live in fear. That isn't right.
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  31. To be fair, the story doesn't say anything about the whale/fish being anywhere near Nineveh. It just has the whale/fish regurgitating Jonah onto land and then Jonah going to Nineveh. Anyway, as I skimmed back over the story for the first time in years, something did stand out to me that I hadn't thought of before. Look at these verses in the first chapter: 4 Then the Lord sent a great wind on the sea, and such a violent storm arose that the ship threatened to break up. 5 All the sailors were afraid and each cried out to his own god. And they threw the cargo into the sea
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  32. I was too, actually, but it is important, just by being there.
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  33. Interesting visual representations. I'm surprised that hell isn't bigger.
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  34. They just want to mind their own business without being shot for the color of their skin. They didn't choose to be black.
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  35. I don't think so. I think the point of "Black Lives Matter" is that "black lives matter, too," because to most Americans black lives (and black deaths) are nothing more than statistics. I read somewhere (quite a while back) that they actually considered saying "black lives matter, too," but it seemed more effective the other way. A person who counters "all lives matter" doesn't get it. That's no counter, it's an agreement in principle. The principle is that all lives should matter, but to most people black lives really don't. Nobody would come out and say it, but the current situation in the U
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  36. That's good! Right near the point of my deconversion, I was watching the Oklahoma polygamist cult on the news (early 2007 I think) and thought the same thing, "How can anyone believe such weird shit?" Then the thought occurred to me, I guess I've believed some stupid things also. Then the best thought of all: "I wonder what else I've believed that's a lie."
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  37. We have a friend who is a fundy and we finally had to tell her that if she didn't back off it would damage the friendship. She heard us and backed off; we're fine now. OTOH, I was at a memorial service last year and a lady deacon came up to me and invited me to their service. I politely declined and after being pressed, I said I was a secular humanist. We parted, but she came up to me a second time about 20 minutes later and engaged me again. I again politely declined and she said something about the error of my ways. We left it there, but I was ready to explode if she tried a thir
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  38. "That's the same reason that facts tend to splat on the surface of this force-field and slide off without effect." Great line! Love it!
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  39. For an analog, think about how many police are harmed by women whom they went to protect in a domestic violence situation (it's common). In the same way, believers are always trying to protect their god and his internal image of being "always good all the time" and keep witnessing and presenting as many baits as they can to lure you back. Until they can see past the mind-consuming lie of their faith, they can't have compassion for one that they think was tricked by the devil. That's the same reason that facts tend to splat on the surface of this force-field and slide off without effect.
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  40. Empathy is not (most) Christians' strong suit.
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  41. Kris, please listen to this and think. I believe it is best to step away from the details and look at religious/prophetic systems as a whole. What are they trying to accomplish among their audiences?
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  42. There are Christians who are in the prophecy BUSINESS. It's an income stream. Trying to debunk each new claim as it gains publicity is a form of whack-a-mole. They are ALWAYS going to claim some astounding fulfillment of this or that. Kris, you've gotta work out more general principles for what you are going to consider plausible about religions in general. These claims will never stop coming. Both my parents suffered from psychological stresses/illnesses that manifested themselves in involvement with prophecies, alleged miracles, etc. I saw the harm done in both their
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  43. This is perhaps the most disturbing video I've ever seen. Human beings, reduced to cattle, by one of their own.
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