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  1. We are having fun here but you had to go there didn't you. Fuck you and your Goddamn racist mindset you racist motherfucking racist. Kiwis aren't like that. They will screw all sheep equally.
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  2. Hey, long term lurker, first time poster. Sitting here thinking how do I best outline my journey. Went through the whole conversion to christianity when I was a teenager. Thought It was the most amazing thing ever, I was serving in the church, part of the worship team. Then I moved away from home at 18, moved to a new city to start my nursing training. On a night out i ended up getting attacked by a guy who lived in my colleage hall. The resulting downward spiral from the assault resulted in me loosing what few marbles I had. I dropped out of school and mov
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  3. It's amazing how good it can make you feel. I notice a big difference between doing it, and not doing it. The bare consciousness thing is supposed to be you seeing the observer behind the stream of thoughts, the raw consciousness, and not seeing your true self as the thoughts that are streaming by every day. Hindu's call that Brahman, a transcendent energy consciousness which is the true identity of everyone deep down inside, basically. The big spiritual realization is, "tat tvam asi," meaning, "you are that." You are the transcendent energy consciousness observing, you are the god.
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  4. It's a girl sheep, Kev! No need for chaps when having sex. He isn't one of them preverts!
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  5. Welcome Tenebrae. It sounds like you had a very rough start of your adult life and I'm sorry for that. I'm so glad you were able to get back on you feet. Congratulations though on getting your nursing degree and also on finding your way out of the cults of christianity you got into. Is everything pretty much ok now or are you still substantially struggling? Glad you here to keep us company.
    2 points
  6. Can't be me... that's a toy sheep. We use real ones in NZ. Bet some American wanker is attempting a poor mans copy of a proud NZ tradition
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  7. My "finite mind" is fully capable of recognizing that any "god" who would call bears out of the woods to shred kids who make fun of a man's hair or who would kill 70,000 innocent people because King David did something which (for some unknown reason) he didn't like, not to mention send people to a place of everlasting fiery torment simply because they don't believe in a "god" who won't show his face, is (if only he existed) evil beyond imagination.
    2 points
  8. Glory! https://news.yahoo.com/painting-jesus-survives-7-alarm-163952840.html Loved the comment "God burns down a church. A painting survives... It's a miracle. I will never understand religion. If I burned a church down and left one painting, I would be arrested for arson. God does it, and it's a Miracle." The True Believers™ had to chime in...
    1 point
  9. This is why I am independent. Neither side holds the interests of the people as paramount. @LogicalFallacyIs this true?
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  10. Hi, my name is Steven and I am from the midwestern US, right along the Bible Belt. There is still much that I am trying to parse through in my mental models and worldview that has been a more arduous journey than I anticipated. So, a little about myself, I grew up Christian (big shock, right). But in a family of true believers. To define what I mean here, I am not referring to belief in belief but rather, true belief. To clarify, I often hear, even now, the accusation of Christian hypocrisy because at a funeral, Christians grieve no differently from atheists. But this was never true for my fam
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  11. Hi Steven, and welcome! Many of us can remember the feeling of being lost. It does get easier in time. Looking forward to reading your extimony.
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  12. There used to be a really nice secondary market for tickets back in the day. You could just buy a ticket from "John Doe" (or whoever) who couldn't make their flight and you'd just assume their identity for the flight to use their ticket. No one checked or really cared except for the airlines, of course who couldn't charge full price for that seat while keeping the original fare for the person who couldn't fly. Anyhow, the TSA has plans to roll out facial recognition for all domestic flights too. The ACLU wants full details but, of course, "security" means they're being sto
    1 point
  13. This morning I tried to lay down some rules about privacy and personal boundaries with a family member, by telling them that those are important to me, and that I'm not likely to forget the time when I started receiving get well cards from people whom I hadn't said a word to about my health conditions. Apparently though, the fault is with me, and I can't accept people praying for me etc, because I don't believe in god. Thus, if you believe in god, the logic goes that you also accept boundary violations and people talking about your personal health conditions.
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  14. I doubt our political system will improve until, or unless, we develope a vaccine for narcissism.
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  15. Very true. We are all drawn to own version of bliss.
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  16. Can't be a real pic or he and the sheep would be on the edge of a cliff. That adds a certain frisson to the experience. It also assists in the disposal of the evidence, one way or another. Casey
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  17. I've only practiced meditation a little, and what I do is just focused on breathing and quieting your thoughts. Call it getting down to bare consciousness, or whatever. I don't actually know much of anything about the history or context behind the practices at all, nor do I necessarily feel like I have to, so I suppose that's why I just don't associate it with spirituality necessarily. To me, it's just a stress buster, another tool for living life in a healthy way.
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  18. The interconnection aspect has been a tough one for materialists. If it's a pantheistic minded practice, where you're tuning in to the whole and things like that, it has a woo woo off putting feeling towards most strict materialists. Listen to the universal mind meditation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tF14GnCJqk The word god is used, but I understand this in a monist idealist pantheist framework. That's how I choose to take it in. Her source is U.S Anderson, a mystic. This is regarded as spiritual minded content. In the way the Advaita Vedanta is considered, "spir
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  19. I've never thought of meditation, relaxation, and other such practices as being spiritual, and in fact I don't really see a reason why a materialist couldn't benefit from them, and have no conflict with doing so. I find them somewhat similar to Cognitive Behavioural Therapy and 'training' your mind and thoughts in a more positive direction, except that meditation is simply letting thoughts go and giving your brain a break, so to speak. Where would the conflict arise with materialism, or do you think it does? I think these can totally be complementary, in spite of natural inclinatio
    1 point
  20. There doesn't have to be anything religious about having personal insights like that, particularly if it's in an environment that is conducive and supportive of such. If you ask me, that was just your inner morality telling you that hurting people isn't exactly the most correct approach to life you can take. (ie you didn't need god to know that). In my former fundamentalist life, I would have taken that as my conscience speaking. It's strange, how I hear the argument that now my conscience is dead, and I've given way to a lavish life of sin, and being mislead by the devil. I have m
    1 point
  21. Ex-C can be very addicting for a variety of reasons. Mainly because this is an outlet that many people don't get to have in real time, day to day life. Some people barely ever get to speak to any other ex christians at all, except here in this online community. I stumbled in here years ago based on a link someone left in another forum where I was moderating. And I found that I like it here. This is different than most of the forums I've been on over the years. And I stuck around. I took a few years off a while back as a general burn out on forum activity in and of itself, and wen
    1 point
  22. @midniterider Around 22:00 forward on the second video I posted about Radin's book, "Real Magic," he does go into some of the details with the experimentation that's been going on. And how some of the interpretations are that people can "push." But when "time is introduced it seems that people are not pushing the intention and that it originates in the future, and then reality catches up to it. This is going on by 23:20 of the video. And this is basically what the law of attraction stuff has been aimed at. Trying to fully believe that something is already done, already there. You e
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  24. True. We had a professor in graduate school that said most politicians above the county level ran for office to feed their ego. A few of us disagreed, but we were young and naive. Through the years I decided he was correct.
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  25. Nuttin'. Either guise someONE tells the proles what where when to do what. kL
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  26. End. Ive said this before, but really you should just de-convert and own it. You dont seem to take your own religion seriously. Maybe you already did and I missed it. If so my appologies.
    1 point
  27. Every President has to have some narcissistic traits or they wouldn't seek the office and power that comes with it. The media has always attacked and critized every President, Trump is just the first one that is so narcissistic that he fights back. In some ways I find that refreshing, but Trump either doesn't know how to respond tactfully or just doesn't care. The evidence would seem to indicate he just doesn't care how he comes across to other people, and that isn't a good thing when you're the leader of the free world.
    1 point
  28. MSN I get the appeal but I disagree with moving it. I might get on-board if this obvious industry money grab could somehow do something to curb xmas encroaching earlier into the year but I doubt that will happen so I'm going to say we leave it where it is. Sadly, where I live, we haven't seen a single trick-or-treater in years. When I first moved here about twenty years ago we got plenty and I was happy about that since I like Halloween but over the years we've fell off to zero. People have gotten so paranoid about "stranger danger" that they just don't let
    1 point
  29. We are going to get candy and hand it out this year. This will be our first Halloween in this house. I hope we get a decent turnout. We're new to the neighborhood so, we're not really sure how it's going to be. I do know that I told my wife that we are not buying the candy until that very day or even a couple hours before trick-or-treating starts. That way, neither of us are tempted to eat it all before trick or treat time. Haha!
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  30. That was very informative. Thanks, Casey. New question coming off of this: The countries that are currently considered or called "communist", such as China, and more specifically, North Korea, but are also dictatorships (NK), what is the difference between a communist country and a dictatorship? Do they always coincide? After all, someone has to "dictate" how the proletariat operate, since any group of people will not always agree with each other.
    1 point
  31. Florida Man is the hero we deserve, but not the one we need.
    1 point
  32. Yup. He loves you so much that if you don't love him back he'll sentence you to an eternity of unimaginable torture. Here's a quote I got elsewhere on this site. If you decide to respond, it might be worth it to include this: Dan Barker, a former evangelical preacher: “I do understand what love is, and that is one of the reasons I can never again be a Christian. Love is not self denial. Love is not blood and suffering. Love is not murdering your son to appease your own vanity. Love is not hatred or wrath, consigning billions of people to eternal torture because they have offen
    1 point
  33. So.... the universe by definition is everything there is but something created it? Where was this something if not in that which contains all? Of course there is no way to know but we can all guess if we want to. Just don't make a religion out of your guess!
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  34. Welcome! Our culture gives churches an undeserved sense of dignity and respect. Churches are a branches of a cult with no god at the head, just manipulated believers that range from social to devoted. Most of us here took it very seriously indeed, only to find out later that it was never real, and we'd just responded to the people. Add to this mix the odd tendency of our brains to fill-in the missing god with feelings and experiences that seem to validate, all while never really doing anything like healing or providing rent money. Glad that you found your way out.
    1 point
  35. It's amazing to watch how many times a Xian's definition of "True Xianity" changes over the course of their life. When will they realize no one is a Xian? No one.
    1 point
  36. Welcome to X-Xian!, @Tenebrae! I feel like toxic churches often soak up and use up well meaning people who genuinely want to give to a community, all for the petty pursuit of influence, money, and power. I wish there were more secular opportunities to build and support communities! Thank you for sharing your story and I hope this website helps you as much as it helped me!
    1 point
  37. Welcome @Tenebrae! Glad you found your way out. I can relate to much of what you wrote. I was involved in leadership at several charismatic evangelical/pentacostal churches. You're right about the word of knowledge bit. Disgusting, in hindsight.
    1 point
  38. Like so many labels these days the term has lost any informative meaning. My father and his last wife were devout fundy Christians and talked incessantly about their spirituality. Christianity is the natural enemy of spiritual by any definition. They are all about legalism and dogma. Guys who love hiking through the mountains call it a spiritual experience and ladies who enjoy a nice sunset with a glass of wine think they're spiritual. Witches and card readers are spiritual but so are the snake handlers in Tennessee. So what does "spiritual" mean in the real world? Whatever you wan
    1 point
  39. I look back and laugh at how sure I used to be about my faith, and how other people needed to have the same beliefs. Now, it really does spin my head sometimes to think about what a change my brain has done.
    1 point
  40. So it turns out not to be a "false flag," but an actual not-very-bright Trump supporter? I'm shocked. According to Trumpo, the "real" victim in all this is Trump.
    1 point
  41. My response would be similar to WarriorPoet’s response (Sept. 24). If God’s law is written on our hearts (as Christians claim), then we are judging not based on our human standards (whatever that means) but on God’s own standards. Essentially, our standards are God’s standards. Of course they will try to flank you with the “ His ways are higher than our ways” line, but that’s just the scripture’s way of saying God gets a pass at doing bad shit that we would never do. But if God can’t be judged by his own standards, that means he’s above the law, making him an evil dictator that must be dethron
    1 point
  42. Kat, please consider that you may be mired in an obsession. Do yourself a favor and talk with a mental health professional.
    1 point
  43. I actually say something similar to Disillusioned if I ever have this type of discussion anymore. I have found the most success when you remain respectful of their beliefs. I will say something like, "Frankly, I can see why you believe the way you do, I see how you got there. I used to believe that too. IF a god exists as you describe, then it makes sense that I should not question it or be able to understand it fully. My problem is that you regard a presumption as TRUTH, when it is simply a presumption. If you do not presume there is a god, it makes sense that I've drawn the logical conclusi
    1 point
  44. So, the takeaway from this article is ....
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