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    At once Jesus realized that power had gone out from him. He turned around in the crowd and asked, "Who touched my clothes?" -Mark 5:30 Ok, so it didn’t bug me so much but it made everyone I was talking to about it (including the preacher present) deeply uncomfortable. It was an innocent Bible study and I said. ”That’s really interesting! So God’s power is something that he can perceive to flow and it can do so outside his knowledge. Granted, Jesus did not always seem carry the omniscience of God the Father. Presumably God the Father revealed knowledge to Jesus as appropriate. Still it’s interesting that Jesus can perceive his own power in a tangible way and not know to whom it flowed. I wonder if the triggering event for its activation was God willing it without Jesus’s knowledge or if the woman’s acts were the triggering mechanism outside of God’s direct influence, i.e. a fundamental atribute of reality itself...” I was thanked for my perspective and curiosity but told not to look too deeply into God’s power. That was not for us to understand.
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    The fundies are also guilty: https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/12/evangelical-metoo-summit-churchtoo.htm
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    We've already heard the anti-Clinton shit for 8 years. And the anti-Obama shit for 8 years. Time for the other side to hear anti-Trump shit for a while. Buckle-up and enjoy.
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    Merry Christmas! At this time of year many people will read, or will have read in their presence, the following verses: Matthew 1:23 Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel (which means, God with us). Isaiah 7:14: Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Matthew 1:23 is of course a quote from Isaiah 7:14. Have you ever read all of Isaiah 7 and 8? The context is fascinating! Ahaz, king of Judah, has heard that Syria and Israel are planning to join forces and attack Judah. Ahaz isn't a good king, but Jehovah isn't ready for Judah to be destroyed, so the prophet Isaiah goes to him with a message. Isaiah tells Ahaz to ask for a sign, but Ahaz doesn't think it's a good idea to ask God for signs. Isaiah says "He's going to give you one, anyway!" Then comes the famous prophecy. Isaiah goes on to say (verse 16) " before the boy knows how to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land whose two kings you dread will be deserted." So a child will be born and before he's old enough to know right from wrong, Syria and Israel will not even exist as kingdoms any more! But the story continues in chapter 8. There, in verses 3 and 4, we see " 3 And I went to the prophetess, and she conceived and bore a son. Then the Lord said to me, 'Call his name Maher-shalal-hash-baz; 4 for before the boy knows how to cry ‘My father’ or ‘My mother,’ the wealth of Damascus and the spoil of Samaria will be carried away before the king of Assyria.'" Are you familiar with this? There, right in the next chapter, the prophecy is fulfilled! But wait! Was Isaiah's wife a virgin? Are there two virgin births in the Bible? Here's where it gets tricky. I've discussed before how most of our Old Testament translations use the Masoretic Hebrew text as their source. The English Standard Version deviates from this in the case of Deuteronomy 32 because the Qumron text (aka "the Dead Sea Scrolls"), which are older, show the Septuagint (Greek language text used in the first century, which Jesus would have read from) to be correct. Well, Isaiah 7:14 is a place where every English version uses the Septuagint. The reason? That's what Matthew quoted. The actual Hebrew word in Isaiah 7:14 is almah, which means "young woman" (and possibly one that has never had a child). So Isaiah's wife wasn't a virgin, she was simply a young woman! But wait again! Why, then, does Matthew say "virgin"? If you read the Wikipedia link in the last paragraph, you'll see that the Septuagint used the word parthenos, which means "virgin." But that Greek word changed meaning over time, as words do. It was probably a perfectly good word translation when the Septuagint originated, but over time the meaning changed from "young woman who has never had a child" to "virgin." So there was never a prophecy that a virgin would be with child, but by the first century the Jews read this with the new meaning of the word and thought it must be about the messiah, since no virgin had ever borne a child. Somehow they ignored the context -- all of Isaiah 7 and 8 -- which shows the prophecy to have already been fulfilled. It couldn't have been fulfilled in their view, because they knew that Isaiah "went in" to his wife. "Ah!" you say, "but what about chapter 9?" "6For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upond his shoulder, and his name shall be callede Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7Of the increase of his government and of peace there will be no end, on the throne of David and over his kingdom, to establish it and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from this time forth and forevermore. " This indeed seems to be speaking of a messiah who will lead Judah to become a power and to create peace forever. But keep reading: "8The Lord has sent a word against Jacob, and it will fall on Israel; 9and all the people will know, Ephraim and the inhabitants of Samaria, who say in pride and in arrogance of heart: 10“The bricks have fallen, but we will build with dressed stones; the sycamores have been cut down, but we will put cedars in their place.” 11But the Lord raises the adversaries of Rezin against him, and stirs up his enemies. 12The Syrians on the east and the Philistines on the west devour Israel with open mouth. For all this his anger has not turned away, and his hand is stretched out still." It's still referring to the fall of Israel, only a few years from the time the sign is given. Judah was to have a messiah who would bring peace. Israel and Syria would fall, Judah would rise, and no-one would ever defeat them. Well, Israel and Syria did, indeed, disappear, but Judah never became independent, and the child born to the prophet never turned out to be a messiah. Judah became subject to Greece, then to Rome, and later (ironically, after the one Christians believe to be the messiah came) they ceased to exist, as well. Matthew 1:23 is the most foundational verse of the Gospel, the reason Christians in the first century (and today!) believed that Jesus was the messiah. (Actually, that's backwards. The story that Jesus was born of a virgin likely came about because people already believed that he was the messiah: Because they expected the messiah to be born of a virgin, a story arose about Mary and the Holy Spirit.) Yet the idea is predicated upon a word whose meaning had changed over the centuries. There is no Old Testament prophecy that the messiah would be born of a virgin... the whole foundation of Christianity is based on a mistaken belief by first century Jews. It's no wonder that today's Jews don't accept Jesus as the messiah... he doesn't fit what they find in their scriptures. Do you still believe this story is about Jesus? If so, why?
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    One thing I've been following on the clean energy front is how far we've advanced with electric outboard motor technology this century. It has yet to catch on in a big way, but I could see it gaining traction. They basically just put electric motors inside a standard outboard: This is the fast example: These are smaller motors placed on boats that don't go as fast: They're still trying to work out this technology, but I'm pretty interested. Regular combustion engines generally exhaust through the lower unit, directly injecting the exhaust into the water. That's eliminated. The main issue is battery power. But I suppose if you have a back up battery in case you run dead it wouldn't be too different than having extra fuel on board for the same reason.
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    This is such a good explanation I just had to break it out from the rest of the excellent description. Since I am still deconverting I need to read and re-read this paragraph to keep reminding myself of the truth when I start to slip back into the mind F***K. Thanks Fuego. Someone123. Pay attention before you regret the mess you made of your life...by a wrong choice
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    I think you might be projecting Trumps flaws onto others? So if that's what people are complaining about Trump... what were the peeps who hammered Obama for 8 years? I haven't seen the conspiracy of "Trump is a Hindu" or "Melania is a closet lesbian" coming out of the left. I love it when people take the mickey out of politicians of all stripes. But if you want to be in politics you should have the fortitude not to resort to wanting to sue or threaten everytime someone chucks off at you. Snowflake... that's the definition of Trump
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    Yes, but millions of years from now humanoids will argue and debate whether our advanced civilization ever existed. We will become their Atlantis.
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    All this tech is wonderful. We'll be able to watch our species become extinct in great detail and in real time and then be able to share our demise on FB and Twitter.
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    Sky: It sounds to me like you're feeling alone and depressed and that the car thing is a peripheral issue. But you know what will happen if you go to a church. You wrote, "I can't be at the mercy of people anymore." If you go to a church they will start in on saving you and eventually they'll be manipulating you. You need to get your self confidence up. If you are in grad school, there are many resources on campus. Start with the counseling center. I can vouch for this from personal experience. And check out the hundreds of social groups on your campus that are not connected to a religion. Once you get your confidence up the license thing will be a pushover. When I went to the uni counseling center I ended up in a group called "assertion training." I recommend the concept highly.
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    One more echo of all the above: She sees you as a project. She'll try to save you and it will go on forever. Yeah, it's difficult, but you need to block her calls, ignore her texts, and move on. Take it from everyone above. This does not look like something that will last. This is like an impacted wisdom tooth. You can suffer the pain now and say goodbye to it or wait until it will be much worse after it festers for a few years.
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    Someone123, Listen to this advice above. I married the right man the first time and have been married 42 1/2 years.. We are also best friends, if she is just your wife but Not your best friend and kindred spirit she will be useless when the really hard parts of life come along. You need a women who "has your back". You can get this right IF you are very smart and careful about who you hook up with. Truthseeker0 has it correct, this was me and my hubby " love itself isn't enough .............you need to have common values and a similar worldview for it to work." If you don't have those two life can be and often is hell on earth!
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    Someone.... Men's Rule 3 simply states "Never stick yer crank in crazy". Not gonna try to smooth shit out for this post. ONLY way you are gonna get in her pants is to lawfully contract yourself to involuntary servitude from which you break from she'll end up with half or more of all your shit. Consider for a few orgasms and possibly warm bed, few other optional perks of "Christian marriage", that moment you are bound to her on paper. Sure, v e r y so sure that you'll dig the ten toed boogie and possibly other sorts of now-forbidden fun... When she shows her teeth the gives ultimatums OR separations game's lost. Pay attention. She's all you want I do understand. I too lost a potential mate decades back due to religiosity and incompatibility. Advice from many others came before my post, read them, learn them, live them. If you have to have a playtoy hire an escort, find a friends with good benefits, whatthehellevar, MOVE the fuck on. Rule 3 Violations are what make Men either serial violators (myself) or divorcees with their lives shattered and adrift, broke, family-less, fucked in head for years. 85%-odd people in Occidental world are xtain religious. 50% of therm who marry over years break up. Dude those chances with this otherwise cool lil lady aint'a so great. Why do this shit to yourself? kevinL
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    "Ima hurt you 'cause you don't love me enough bitch! Now tell me again how great I am..."
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    I think she's a very manipulative personality, Someone123. Not very uncommon, not very uncommon for christians. It's a double whammy in your case, naturally manipulative + christian manipulation. Do you want to live like that? Is that the way someone who loves you behaves? Manipulating you left and right to their own perceived advantage? These are questions you really ought to tackle, buddy. But you'll do what you do. If it doesn't work you'll be divorced. So ultimately it is what it is. But at this point in time you have the advantage of being able to avoid the inevitable if you so choose. It's a risk either way. What if it works out? What if it doesn't work out? Both are risks. But it seems that with this level of manipulation the risk of it not working out (especially when she's already dumped you once at this point) seems the more likely scenario given the information and circumstances I'm reading here. Plus, we're hear to encourage ex christians. This manipulative christian girl doesn't strike me as someone you should be encouraged, in good conscience, to continue chasing around. And that's my bottom line take on it.
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    Yup. Lots and lots and lots of talking to myself. And since the voices were encouraged to be Scripture (from both ends of the conversation),eventually all that I could hear was “You’re worthless”. But thanks be to progress for good therapy! The other day I was feeling anxious about something unfamiliar I needed to do and the words came unbidden “God,please help me..” and I abruptly stopped and said to myself “I can DO this! I have the skills and the intelligence and I can do this well.” And fuck yeah,I did.
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    It won't be easy for you at first, for sure, but it will eventually get better. The "unequally-yoked" thing ruins a lot of relationships!
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    You dodged a bullet. Several folks here are unequally yoked and that creates a lot of problems in their relationship.
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    Long story. I have a short response: At some point, you will look back at your adventure with this girl, her family and her church and realize you made a clean getaway.
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    I just wish I hung out with classmates and made more friends throughout highschool. I was a loner and was afraid to hang out with anyone because my thoughts might be "corrupted" by their secular ways. I didn't hang out with Christians either because inevitably they were "fake" christians and were probably destined to burn in an even hotter hell than the non-Christians. My childhood was very lonely and desolate, and I had a lot of catching up to do (and still do) later in life.
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    I am so sorry you are going through this Someone123. Heartbreak hurts so bad. Personally, I think it's worse than losing someone to death. Unfortunately, she has been brainwashed. And you cannot fix it. Only she can open her eyes someday and see what all this has done to her. And that may or may not ever happen. So you have to move on as hard as it hurts. My husband many years ago lost me to religion and I was with him for 17 years. During that time, I waited and waited and waited for him to get ''saved'' and it did not happen so I left the relationship in hopes of god choosing a good christian man for me (throwing up in my mouth as I write this) and I have had to pay for that mistake right to this very day. He could not stop me no matter how he tried. I was too brainwashed. I hope by telling you a little of my personal life, it might help you. Move on sweetie. Make a new life with someone you share a lot in common with. You need to have lots of common interests with your spouse or girlfriend. Relationships are hard enough without having to battle about religious doctrine. You would end up hating each other. I wish you the best. You're going to be fine. (hug)



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