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    Even if you are, does it matter? If the thought of a god comforts you, then take it. Even if god isn't real, the comfort is. Moreover, just because you've concluded that the christian god is a lie, doesn't mean all god's are lies. Ms. Professor is nominally Buddhist. Some of the people at her temple gave her representations of the earth god and the god of fortune. I made a special shrine for them and bought incense for her. She offers them prayers and such. She doesn't actually believe in these strange foreign gods; but finds comfort in the traditions, rituals, and customs of Buddhism. I also find solace in meditation. I know I'm not getting in touch with anything or anybody "out there". But it does put me in touch with myself; and, for me, that's enough. You do you.
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    So, so sorry for the loss of your brother. This is where life is really hard. (I lost my sister so I really empathize with losing a sibling) He is finally resting now. Live for him sweetie. Live for him everyday. It takes time so allow yourself lots of rest and peace. Go do something nice for yourself today. I give you the biggest virtual (((hug)))
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    SARS-CoV-2 is the name for the corona virus itself. It is classified with the previous SARS virus, as the second classified variation of the SARS virus. The sickness is called COVID 19 coronavirus. It is a type of flu that many humans have less immunity to than other flu viruses. For most people they will have cold-like, or flu-like symptoms. Symptoms can last as short as a few days and some people may have no symptoms at all. Some may never come down with an active case of this virus but still can be a carrier for a period of time, but an unlikely transmitter. Others can have respiratory symptoms lasting for weeks similar to other flues. But the sickness can last much longer for those having a compromised immune system, especially the aged and those with lung problems where death could be the result. Of course other strains of the flu could also kill these people, which is more likely since there are many other widespread strains of flu viruses where the yearly flu shot would not be effective against for any particular year. It is unusual that children, for the most part, do not get sick with this virus, unlike other types of flu strains. Presently it is just speculation as to why children in general are more immune to this sickness. Future studies of children all over the world with mild symptoms might help in the development or improvement of a future vaccine. It expectedly will likely take no more that 12 to 18 months, in the opinion of some virologists, to develop and approve a vaccine in the US and other countries since there will be so many countries working on one, and then such a vaccine can be improved as time progresses. To start with this vaccine will likely be separate from the normal flu vaccine, but in time it could likely be part of our yearly flu vaccine regimen of a single shot. It is normal human behavior for certain factions of the population to over-react to situations of possible peril, especially when there are so many unknowns involved. This virus scare is probably no exception. Below you will see a link discussing some myths that have developed concerning the COVID 19 coronavirus: https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-myths.html
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    When I first deconverted, I felt very at home in the witchcraft section of my local crystal shop. As in, it feels like mom is hugging me. I did spend some time looking into it, but I think that I resonate more with the natural/nature side than any spell-craft. The cycles of life, biological and whatever. I took courses in Reiki and psychic development. Some folks in the Reiki class said that they could feel me from across the room directing energy at them. I never felt anything either from myself or others, so gradually lost interest, though I've tried it a few times since. I know a handful of wise-women who live in the country and make balms and potions from plants. Sweet people, and they don't seem excessively superstitious.
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    I was quite interested in witchcraft, but then took a left turn at chaos magic. I'm more into the magic aspect than the nature aspect but I like pagans and they seem a bit more normal than chaos mages on chaos web forums. But I prefer to call myself a pagan because I identify with these types of magical people.
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    Yes. Childhood indoctrination, especially of the fundamentalist/evangelical type, is abuse. Yes, many of us here, including myself, were victims and are survivors of this type of abuse. It is sometimes physical; but it is always emotional and psychological. I no longer fear hell; because I've already been. Only back then it was called it childhood.
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    Of course, the evidence and stats show the exact opposite: I bet. And facts and evidence usually have zero effect on that mindset. But I do find it interesting how wrong the Calvinist's can be about so many different doctrines. I suppose it's not any worse than flat earther's or YECist's resisting contrary evidence. But quality of life and living conditions have been improving over the long haul. That's just as damming to their doctrine of steady increasing depravity as is viewing the earth live via satellite to a flat earther. But nevertheless.........
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    The Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra (one of the very best in the world) has now made its amazing Digital Concert Hall available free for 30 days. https://www.digitalconcerthall.com/en/home
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    Sorry for your loss, my friend. Take care.
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    My words as well. And we'll be thinking of you in the weeks ahead.
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    I'm sorry to hear this. And you're right. We never know how long we have. Enjoy the capacity to experience human consciousness while it's taking place.
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    Thank you so much, Margee. You're words are very comforting. I hope you stay healthy and that your husband is able to keep his job.
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    Do we run into the problem that by trying to link it to certainty that you invalidate both positions? Gnostic as a stance makes no sense if knowledge is impossible, and in turn claiming to be agnostic is at best redundant as knowing or not knowing are not valid points. If you say there are always doubts like living in the matrix, and give those doubts weight, then knowledge doesn't exist and you can neither have it or not. Surely the common standard of beyond reasonable doubt makes more sense? When used, both gnostic and agnostic terms clearly indicate differences in position. Would you have any problem with the statement "I know there is no god beyond a reasonable doubt"?
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    I define agnosticism differently. The “if you do not claim certainty, you are an agnostic” definition is new to me. An agnostic is someone who maintains that we do not, or cannot, have enough knowledge to decide the issue of god’s existence. It refers to the limitations of what knowledge can do, not the quantity of knowledge that we have. I believe that a rational person, looking at the failed arguments for god, and not seeing any evidence for a divine presence or divine intervention, would conclude that there is no god. I have. I do not claim absolute knowledge or certainty but I have enough to justify a (lack of) belief. I am not “agnostic” on the issue; if I were, I would be withholding judgment. Agnosticism is the view that the existence of God, of the divine or the supernatural is unknown or unknowable. Another definition provided is the view that "human reason is incapable of providing sufficient rational grounds to justify either the belief that God exists or the belief that God does not exist." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism
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    Sure - for the two extreme cases you mention your statement is true. If you want to believe the earth is flat evidence won't help, and if you don't want to believe vaccines prevent deaths, again the evidence won't help. However, most people fall somewhere in the middle where sufficient evidence will convince them of a particular claim. The bit about "Others who don't want to believe these types of things" simply sounds like a Christian telling us that we just don't want to believe. Sure, I think there are people that simply do not want to believe, but for most people it's not a case of what we want, it's what we are convinced of, or in this case not convinced. Sure, for me, there is a lot of convincing to do - suggesting that the living can communicate with the dead invalidates some fundamentals of my worldview and presuppositions so I'm not going to throw away a foundation which rests on a lot of scientific evidence about the way our reality works because someone claims some mojo. People been claiming that stuff for millennia. But that's not the same as saying I'm close minded or "don't want to believe". I'm just saying in order to convince me you'd better have some damn good evidentiary support. I agree with your last posts about enjoying your own belief's etc, however, exposing yourself to other trains of thought I think are also important. That is why I do engage in these conversations, read the articles you provide, and ask questions like how do we know what we think we know?
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    Probably best to just quietly enjoy your own beliefs with those who share a common interest.
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    Medieval thinking. What doth this omen bode? His god is a sock puppet that says what he wants it to say. Just like the old defenses against the devil, such as burying a tangled bunch of branches near your house entrance so the devil will trip when he comes to visit. Or a nail with red ribbon tied around it as a reminder of the crucifixion, to ward off nasties. Since the scriptures have things like genetic manipulation by having animals breed in front of branches with stripped bark, this all makes perfect sense...
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    AD, You are not the one with all the power. God is supposed to be the one with all the magical power. He is supposed to be Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnipresent. He's supposed to fix the earth? It's his creation, right? I'm sure trillions of people from all over the world are praying right now and nothing seems to be stopping this virus. It will run it's course and not everyone will get out alive. This is part of life, virus's. Hundreds of virus's have taken over the earth for centuries and any prayers that people sent out throughout history did not stop it. So who's fault is it? The one that is supposed to have ALL the magical power and yet 'he' doesn't stop the sickness or suffering?? You mustn't blame yourself. You have to comfort yourself. You have to do what they are suggesting to do to protect yourself. We have to let it run it's course and cross our fingers that this will go away fast if we all do the right thing. Try to get your mind on other things. I am trying to pretend that most things are normal but I am not in denial either. Go out for walks and take in the sunshine. Stay off the sites on social media that scare the shit out of us. I deleted them all and now look only to the reliable information. The solace you are looking for is within yourself by accepting that this epidemic is here, it is part of living on this earth and we all have to go through it together. Go watch a funny you-tube tonight. If you think I find this easy, it's not. It's not for billions of people, me included. I spent 4 days in terrifying, paralyzing fear as I know that I am older now with compromised lung problems. If my husband is laid off, (which will probably happen because everything in our city is shutting down) I'll be with the other millions that will fall financially unless the government really does step in and help us all. I will lose my house that I worked so hard to keep for 23 years...... blood, sweat and a lot of tears.... without the help of jesus. It' has taken a few days for me to wrap my head around this whole thing and it's scary. Just never give up. And don't blame yourself. You didn't cause it nor can you fix it, accept by protecting yourself and your loved ones and do what they suggest. Hang in there. We're all in this together. Big (hug) P.S. If it makes you feel better, tell god you are sorry for not praying. And then start praying right away. Pray for the next 7 days and see if you can stop this virus. I can tell you that you will be wasting your time.
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    Telling a child, someone with a lifetime of potential ahead of them that they're nothing but depraved sinners is the epitome of child abuse. I think the testimonies of the members of this site can attest to that fact.
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    Not too long ago I had to go to a service at a fundy church and there was a 10-year-old kid there who stood up and said he was terrified of going to hell. That's child abuse of the first order.
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    The listed reasons why believers don’t understand why there are those that don’t believe and aren’t religious can be reversed and apply to those that aren’t believers. We also wonder why “they” don’t get it and we use arguments and techniques similar to their’s as evidence to prove Deities and the a supernatural realm doesn’t exist. It seems to me that the fallacy of religion is just one of those things that people have to figure out on their own.
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    The believers fallacy points towards feeling uneasy that someone else doesn’t believe what you believe. As in it outlines the fact that your belief could be wrong. Not everyone believes it. A narcissistic response to the possibility of being wrong in ones belief comes back as the believers fallacy. There may be other examples, but this is one that I’ve noticed a lot from religious authoritarians. Not to mention the biblical writers.
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    On a serious note, though: I have no compelling reason to believe that there is anything more than this life, so I aim to live this one life I have to the best of my ability.
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    That was a mistranslation. god meant that men shouldn't lie to other men the way they lie to their women. It was the old testament version of "Bros before Hoes."
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    No. I cannot think of any crime or moral wrong committed that justifies burning in torment for eternity. If you can think of one that a human can commit in their lifetime let me know.
  28. 1 point
    I honestly don't mean to get all political here, but this is where it becomes very apparent that electing someone like Donald Trump was a very bad idea. Conservative, liberal, whatever. I don't care. The person in charge should be intelligent, coherent, literate, capable of telling the truth, and aware of his or her own ignorance where it exists. Trump is none of these. It's been an issue for a while, but now it's really an issue.
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    Leia, if I'm being honest, I'm concerned about how much the hateful environment in which you were submerged might have affected you. I'd caution against allowing their hatred of others become your hatred of them. Anger has its place in life, and certainly in the deconversion process; but either we master and use it for good, or it masters and uses us, for results that may be less than good.
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    I was raised very strictly Roman Catholic. Today is Ash Wednesday, and I made a point of eating something with meat in it as an act of rebellion, something I plan to continue doing each Friday during Lent. I'd love to get to the point where I just don't care and don't notice whether I eat meat that day or not. Apparently that isn't going to happen this year though. Can anyone else relate?
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    @Wertbag! I just read about your brother. (Been inactive for a couple months). I am very sorry to hear this. At least he has a caring brother in his time of need.
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    At my roomie's funeral (he died very suddenly, we don't really know why), we had a laptop showing pictures of him from childhood on up, and each of us passed around a mic and told stories of the good times and laughs we'd had with him. It was more a celebration of who he had been than about his death.
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    My dad really liked the Doctrine of Total Depravity, which is a fundamental principle in the theology of Calvinism. Basically it says that humans are absolutely incapable of doing anything positive or good, and that everything is constantly in a state of increasing depravity and deterioration. He frequently taught me, while I was a child, that no good progress will come from my time and that the future will always be worse than the past. That's really devastating to a child who has hopes and dreams for who he wants to be or what he wants to accomplish. None of that mattered to him, though. He was more interested in proving that he's right.
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    My great grandad was apparently abusive with bible quotes used for justification (smack 'em with a rod being his favourite). My grandad said he had the Christianity beaten out of him. He could see the bible quotes were true, and that no divine aid came to his prayers, which was in conflict with the description of love and mercy the church tried to preach. The doubt he had was taught to my dad, and while he was a church goer it was always with unanswered questions. By the time it came to me the doubt was passed on and solidified. It took a couple of generations but in a way the child abuse of a century ago lead in part to my atheism.
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    My brother passed away on Tuesday. He woke unresponsive and was taken to the hospice where he passed away a few hours later. No sign of any consciousness in his last day, which also means no pain or understanding of the impending end. Seeing a loved one degenerate, slowly losing the ability to move, enjoy life or even eat is a painful process. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Enjoy your life while you can. We never know how long we have.


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