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  1. Thanks guys. Answers heeded. It is actually more satisfying to think it is up to me to live life MY way. Not some Sky Guys way.
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  2. Oh my gosh. You have no idea how much I love this comment! You men can be so funny! Thanks for the good laugh. And yes I will.
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  3. Because your parents wanted a baby. That's about the extent of the "why". You are imposing purpose into your existence, but apart form your parents wanting a baby there is no apparent why. Sometimes why questions simply don't make sense. Richard Dawkins on asking why: Yep. We die because of entropy. Embrace it, and live your life to the fullest. (Fullest being whatever that means for you) Exactly! Now you are beginning to understand.
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  4. Some nutcase probably did, but it certainly wasn't the Green's as was widely proclaimed by various groups, including the government. See here https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/nov/12/is-there-really-a-green-conspiracy-to-stop-bushfire-hazard-reduction The interesting thing is that people are blaming the Greens for policies that have never been enacted because they've never been in government! The irony on that one! I think I largely agree with you here, but I'm wary of using loaded language like "alarmist" because what I'm noticing these days is you try and talk about the facts and people start referring to you as "alarmist" because anytime someone talks about climate change in politics, some other moron stands up and says that's 'alarmist'. Some of the more recent studies I've been reading are indeed alarming. Some studies are showing that we've underestimated the speed at which the warming is happening. Some might call this alarmist, but if it's happening I'd call it reality. The same sort of thing has happened with Covid - politics have got involved and now its everything from the apocalyptical plague to a hoax.
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  5. Hello Josh. Just picking up three points from your last message... The extremes some people will go to in order to shut down something they disagree with? What you've described is the polite end of the spectrum. Here are two more extreme examples. According to Peter Brannen, the author of this interesting book, https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32075449-the-ends-of-the-world a certain Midwest creationist museum discovered a rich bed of fossils when they were excavating the foundations for an extension of their existing building. Palaeontologists requested time to carefully extract and preserve the fossils for further study. Their request was denied and the scientists in question were also denied access to the site so that they couldn't even glimpse the fossils before the concrete was poured. This anti-Flood evidence is now safely sealed away from the prying eyes of these wicked evolutionists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_early_Islamic_heritage_sites_in_Saudi_Arabia Two commonly given reasons as to why the kingdom of Saud is destroying their Islamic heritage are (1) the 'alleged' need for more space for Haj pilgrims in and around Mecca and Medina and (2) the Sunni Muslim abhorrence of the Shia veneration of saints and their tombs. The strict Wahhabi sect that rules Saudi Arabian Sunni Islam is actively trying to deprive Shia Muslims of any other place of worship other than around the Kaaba, in Mecca itself. In both cases Josh we see fanatical literalist purists from two different religions suppressing and destroying things they vehemently disagree with. Robert has pointed out just such a process in his Precession-based theory of the origins of Christianity. Literalists redacting and expunging any evidence that challenges their beliefs. Personally, I find this attitude quite repugnant in its hypocrisy. If you know of evidence that undermines your beliefs, then destroying it is an act of self-delusion. You can't make something true by eradicating evidence against it. Your beliefs were never true in the first place. I never realized that WLC and JPH used sock-puppets to spy on this forum. From time to time I lurk and check the full list of WHO'S ONLINE and I've noticed that my Failed Cosmology of WLC thread is receiving some attention. As I write this a GUEST is looking at it now. This could be Robert Tulip, acting upon your recommendation. Or it could be WLC himself or perhaps OrdinaryClay. Who knows? Whoever they are, they know now that we are watching them. Btw Josh, how did you discover that WLC and JPH were the true identities of these 'members'? (Please message me privately, if you don't want to reveal how you did this. Thanks in advance.) Lastly, I've been dragging my heels on that Failed Cosmology thread and I must get round to winding it up properly. I also owe Disillusioned some input in another thread. I suspect that the UK will have to go back into lockdown fairly soon, to prevent a second spike in the covid-19 numbers. That kind of isolation should give me just the kick up the butt I need to get round to doing these two things. Sorry about the ramble. All the best. Walter.
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  6. Why were you born? Because your mother and father had sex, and one particular sperm fertilized one particular egg, creating a unique individual, YOU. I’m not being flippant here or suggesting you don’t know the facts of life: my point is that’s it, that’s the reason, the ONLY reason you were born. I don’t believe in some kind of cosmic plan or purpose. We were not put here as part of somebody’s plan. Things happened, and here we are. Purpose? Your purpose is not set by a deity or by the universe. Your purpose is something you derive for yourself. It’s whatever motivates you, gives you satisfaction, or brings you joy. It could be a career, or developing a talent, or loving some person, or pursuing a dream. Or all of the above. That’s how I see it in a nutshell. Somebody more eloquent than me will probably expand on this. But we’re here because stuff happened, and our purpose is for us to decide.
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  7. I struggled with the idea of NDE as well during my deconversion, as if there was something to it that might make all of Christianity true. I think others here already stated well what an NDE is, especially that it is near death, not death. I didn't think about that until someone mentioned it and it clicked. I used to get all weirded out whenever I heard these stories about people visiting hell and the warnings they had for us. It's all anecdotal and absolutely none of them agree with each other. I have no doubt some of those people actually believed they visited Hell, but I don't think they literally visited Hell. There are other people in various religions who reported they visited their own version of heaven and some in Hell. It's not a western - Christian thing. I never read this book, but if you are interested in reading more, here is something on the topic: https://www.amazon.com/Big-Book-Near-Death-Experiences-Ultimate/dp/1937907201
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  8. I was head long into a divorce around that time of 2015 and missed this article completely. I had gone very inactive on all forums for a while. I've read through and find it to be a nicely written and well comprehended piece. Having fought along side of Murdock against apologist's and naysayer's trying to smear her with intellectually dishonest book reviews on google and elsewhere, this Jenniferg person seems to actually get it. I can't tell you how many times apologist's would write book reviews without having read any of the content, let alone followed the citations that are present in all of the books. It became tiresome calling them out on it all the time. And it showed me a lot in terms of what partisan religion looks like. And the extremes some people will go to in order to try and shut down something they disagree with. When Erhman wrote DJE? it was terribly written. He was taken to task on nearly all of it. Especially where he assumed, without researching it, that Murdock was just making up the cock symbol in the Vatican. Even Richard Carrier, an adversary of Murdock's at the time, came in to support her against these claims by Ehrman. The drama levels were sky high back then. And I was in the middle of it all, as was Robert. People like WLC and JP Holding used to sign in to the forum under screen names. Dishonest apologists both of which were caught sneaking around and lying many times over. Which is one of the reasons that I find your thesis on WLC especially interesting: @Robert_Tulip you may want to give the linked thread a read over and possibly add some comments. It's especially interesting. Personally, I think they badgered her straight to death! The critics, the apologist's, and the pseudo skeptical atheist types that fell in rank behind the apologists. She took on a burden accusing the Jesus myth of being based on solar mysteries of antiquity and having no historical core. She was stubborn about it and fought to the end. And she took her belief's about the Jesus myth to the grave. Perhaps there will be more in the way of a post mortem appreciation of her work and efforts as the years roll on. I often suspected that would be the case while she was alive. So did she, for that matter.....
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