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  1. Is it a double standard that many recovering alcoholics get themselves on a "marijuana maintenance" program, or that some AA groups openly acknowledge and even unofficially encourage this as a substitute for the much more destructive addiction? Live and let live, man.
    2 points
  2. I agree 100% if it happens outside this sub-forum. This forum is specifically for those exchristians that want to delve into other spiritual possibilities. Now if they take that and start trying to proselytize converts for Odin. We would probably have to move that over to a debate arena and tear the religion apart showing how it was all made up just as the Bible was. As far as I know that hasn't happened yet has it? You've been around here a lot longer than me. Maybe it has. I can't imagine worshipping some imaginary man made God. But if someone who flees Christianity feels at peace doing so. Its not for me to judge them. Just as its not for me to judge those that feel compelled to go back to Christianity. Each person is different and goes through a different process. Whats good for you and I may not be good for them. I'd hate to make someone feel anymore alone after losing faith in Christianity by bashing their "new found" faith. Because in all reality, eventually they will probably come to the same conclusion about that faith as well.
    2 points
  3. I'm glad there is a "safe zone" for those that want to explore other spiritualities on this site. Granted I contemplate spirituality myself. But to me, spirituality doesn't need to be linked to a God. I think at the very least we had a good lesson in non-god based spirituality when we watched the debate between @Edgarcito and @Joshpantera I was just talking to @TABA the other day about my personal thoughts on meditation and spirituality. There are 5 points of the pentagram. Each representing a different natural element. Earth, fire, air, water, and spirit. For me just reflecting on those five wiccan elements knowing what I know now is cause for amazement. We are made of "essentially" earth, we eat the fruits of the earth, the earth is our home and without it we wouldn't exist. We are 75%+ water. We have to drink water to survive. Without water we would not exist. The air we breath provides oxygen for our bodies that without it we would die and cease to exist. Fire has been instrumental in our evolution, for hundreds of thousands of years we have used it for warmth, to cook, to work Metals, to drive the engines in our modern world, but most importantly our sun is just a big ball of fire that keeps our planet at the perfect temperature for life to exist on this beautiful piece of space dust we call home. Lastly spirit. For me spirit is who we are, Our personalities, our likes, our dislikes, our values, our essence if you will. And it is that aspect of us that will live on in everyone we come in contact with even after we are gone. Because we have been granted this life we will never truly die. Even if our names are forgotten over the course of time. The impressions we made in our lifetime will last for the rest of human existence just as those from the past have coalesced to make us who we are. I guess for me the pentagram has become a spiritual symbol again. But not like it is for a wiccan. So for me. When you strip all of the God and Goddess stuff away from wicca. It is a beautiful religion. While I will never be able to "worship" again, Praying to "X" deity. I can meditate and feel a connection to the universe reflecting on those five elements that make us who we are and realizing that we are all connected. From the beginning to the present and into the future. This is our 50-90 year window to be a part of life and make our mark. For me this is a more beautiful realization than a heaven after life with mansions, gold streets, etc. It makes you want to be a better person today so that you leave behind a good impression and not a bad one that will live on in others. Not to mention the three fold law is just a good rule of thumb. Just like the golden rule is. I dont think anybody could argue that we shouldn't treat others like we would like to be treated.
    1 point
  4. Well, you have to kill an animal in order to get a cheeseburger so I thinks, ethically speaking, the gnome wins. However it does depend on what you talk with him. Maybe he is a nazi gnome.
    1 point
  5. The purpose of this subforum is to allow the free exchange of ex-Christian spiritual ideas. That's how it operates. And so people 'ought' to follow the guidelines regardless of their personal convictions. If you come to this sub and say, "Those gnomes you believe in are nonsense!!", then the gnome believer may chastise you about it. They may value gnomes the way someone else values logic and evidence. The purpose of a church is to worship Jesus. If you walk into a church on Sunday and demand proof of God, and point out bible contradictions, you will get tossed out of the building. That venue has a specific purpose and you are violating it. Even if every single one of those goofballs need to be Hitchslapped with some critical thinking. If someone walks into an atheist meetup and whips out the bible and loudly prays and condemns those darn non-believers then they have the right to ask the Christian to leave. Even if the Christian 'knows' in his heart that these godless people are under Satan's influence. So I have a question: Do those who live by logic, reason, critical thinking always do what is logical or reasonable? Logic says it is unhealthy to smoke, eat cheeseburgers and processed sugar. That new car was a bit over budget but damn it is fun to drive! What's worse, eating a cheeseburger or talking to an invisible gnome?
    1 point


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