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  1. Seriously? Every person who comes into these forums is brave as fuck. Many have lost family, friends, careers. Some have given up positions of power and influence. Some people here have overcome extreme toxicity and learned compassion. A lot of them still hurt and grieve. There's nothing special about you just because you hate your imaginary friend; and trying to turn this into a "my dick's bigger" contest is banal and childish.
    11 points
  2. If you are familiar with my introduction and as mentioned in some of my posts you will know that I was a no doubter who was led away from the faith, nor did I experience any adverse life events or mistreatment at the hands of, or in the name of, christianity. Instead, I was a rock solid believer who had reached some uncomfortable, but necessary conclusions earlier in life, but in no way did these unusual - for a Southern Baptist - beliefs impair my belief in god or Jesus Christ. My descent into deconversion began in my quest to help my wife believe. She had questions - lots of que
    9 points
  3. Hi Krys! I know that fear is an irrational thing, but sometimes a look at the long view can put things into their proper perspective. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_event As far as we know there have been five major extinction events in Earth's 4.5 billion year history. Even the least of them dwarfs what's happening today. And after each one, when it seemed that life couldn't possibly recover... after a few million years it did. Even after... T H E G R E A T D Y I N G ...when 96% of all sea life and 70%
    9 points
  4. While you may not lack for courage Leia, you don't seem to have gained any freedom from the god you hate so much. A slave who hates their master, but who can do nothing to set themselves free from him can have all the courage in the world. But their courage will not set them free. They will remain a slave, albeit a rebellious one. So long as they remain obsessed with vengeance, retribution and reprisals, this god has total power over them. I cannot speak for anyone else here, but as an atheist I have totally freed myself from
    9 points
  5. Funny how god could create Adam from dust and Eve from a rib; but he had to impregnate another man's fiance to become human himself.
    9 points
  6. I was raised by strict christian parents and of course the result was adverse childhood events codependency people pleasing lack of boundaries. I am a retired RN. I have given many churches their chance but always run into cognitive dissonance hypocritical behavior control issues. I have faith but will never enter another church again. I am in charge of my own life. How sad to be treated so poorly by self professed Christian's multiple times and be aware of the tactics . I am a new member. This is my first post.
    8 points
  7. Longer than intended, but covers the subject well. This has been a hard thing and I can't really tell anyone because in my part of the country, it will professionally destroy you to not be Christian. I mean sure, the foreigners can worship their false gods, but as a native Southerner, you better be Christian - type doesn't matter so much, just as long as not mormon or jehovah's witness (those are cults after all). Catholics are a bit dicey, but they're probably going to heaven so long as they actually believe in Jesus, though the whole "Mary worship" is nonsense. Grew
    7 points
  8. Most people here in the US do get that. It literally came directly behind his election from during the financial practices (loan giving) of previous administration. Which apparently went back further to Clinton, as I've heard. And finally came to a head after Obama was elected. Spanning three administrations before going belly up. It's not as if Obama got elected and suddenly the housing market just crashes for no other reason. Although you may find a few die hard Obama haters who would try going there. But that's not the general sense of things up here. Ju
    6 points
  9. Hi everyone! I'm going to try to keep this short. Grew up Christian. Went to Christian high school. Devout believer: mission trips, evangelism, the whole nine yards. When I came of legal age, and started to decide where I leaned on the political spectrum, I had a lot of cognitive dissonance because every Christian I knew was Republican, but, as someone well-read in the Bible, biblical principles lined up with being a Democrat. I figured out I'm a Democrat. Met husband, got married sooner that I should have. Had first child. Was working at a Christian non-profit organiza
    6 points
  10. So gullibility is masquerading as courage now? Learned Christian and Hebrew scholars are unable to present evidence for their god's existence so maybe Leia will do so. Please, you have the floor.......
    6 points
  11. Thank you to all of you for these honest replies. It has helped me so much in seeing that my decision was not an incorrect one. It hurts a whole lot but I do understand that it is for the best. I've had a hard time accepting and understanding how a person can changes so drastically so soon. But again, he believes that Jesus is speaking to him and wants him to live such a life. I wished him the best in his journey to whatever it is and I am now focusing on myself and moving on from this. We all love God to some extent but it does not mean that we have to give up everything else for that. How do
    6 points
  12. Talking to a Christian online and he said "Atheists are evil. They see religion is a crutch, helping people through life and providing support and yet they want to kick that out from under them. Some people need that support, some people find great benefit in it and yet on these discussion boards there are always atheists trying to destroy that positive energy in peoples lives." Initially this argument sounded quite reasonable but I could see several good reasons to fight against the idea of a crutch: - The Dumbo effect. People believe they need the crutch because they have never
    5 points
  13. I voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004, McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012. In 2016 I voted for Evan McMullin and I this year I went with Jo Jorgensen. I voted Republican for the House and Senate and I’m still a registered Republican. I was glad to see the GOP pick up seats in the House and look likely to keep a thin majority in the Senate. But it seems clear to me that Biden has won the Presidency beyond a reasonable doubt. Are there irregularities? Sure, there always are. But Trump is reacting to the election the way he has reacted to every loss in his life: he was cheated, he was double-cr
    5 points
  14. Hey, people. I'm almost 6 months out of 5 years of prison. Still trying to get used to being free. I'm trying to get my finances in order, so I can get back on my own feet. Unfortunately living with my Pentecostal parents. I don't want to come out as atheist yet. I have few friends left after prison, and I am scared to lose them and my family for my choice. I need to, though. I really don't know how to other than to come out and say it. My life is currently in shambles, so I'd rather wait before I say anything. Once I have a place of my own and new friends.
    5 points
  15. Hi Salemite. Sorry to hear about your regrets. Give yourself time (but not too long) to grieve what could have been. . .and then make a plan to achieve some personal goals. Do you really have to choose between furthering your education/career and your marriage/children or is this a false choice? Perhaps tell your husband that you supported him and his career and now its his turn to do the same for you?
    5 points
  16. As I have advised dependent minors who must still obey their parents, adopt the role of anthropologist. Study the tribe and its behaviors and belief systems. Observe the hierarchy structure and try to discern outliers in the group. Write a paper with your findings and bring it here.
    5 points
  17. Ask God to visit you in person for a chat. That's the least he could do if he wants a relationship with you. If it's 'above' his status to come down and visit the lowly human beings then he aint worth it (or isn't real). If Christians live in God's mansion forever after they leave this earth then a quick visit while you're still alive is not too much to ask. If God isnt real, then the 'enemy' definitely isnt real. Who is more powerful, God or Satan? Why would God allow Satan to trick you? Why would God leave you in such a state that you can't be sure that he really exists at all?
    5 points
  18. Hello all. I used to be called freedwoman. But I still don't feel free. Anyway. I owe some members an apology from the heart. I was an ass hole when I was last here. I'm so sorry. I have to realize there is a time and place to be aggressive or assertive. I need to realize the difference between the two terms. I come off as aggressive too much. This place is not the place to be aggressive. Plus I'm not so great that I should always speak my mind even assertively. We are all suffering recovering former Christians. We should be here and support each other. Some of you may not forgive me and
    5 points
  19. The world has gone to shit again as it frequently does. Our little window on time doesn't let us enjoy the ice age, black plague, Spanish flu, various natural disasters and political/religious purges that have taken place before. Our current problems of a new virus and accelerated climate change are due to current politicians around the world, particularly American ones. More than 95% of all species have already gone extinct, so we're doing well so far!
    5 points
  20. What do you call a Trump supporter in a Texas boat parade? ... A Proud Buoy.
    5 points
  21. I agree with Dave and Josh. Christians and political Progressives/leftists have in common the idea that the human state can be perfected. For Christians it occurs when Heaven is reached after death, through a relationship with God via his son Jesus. For Progressives it is achieved by Government: an expanding state and an ever-growing body of legislation and constitutional amendments. If equality of opportunity doesn’t yield Utopia, then we must move on to “equity”, the new buzz-word, which typically is meant as something like equality of outcome. For as long as humans are human
    5 points
  22. Hello again! Last time I posted here was for a "5 month update" thread when I was going through some stuff mentally trying to wrap my head around such a drastic change in theology. Now, here I am 4 months later (so 9 months total), happily an atheist (or at least a skeptical agnostic, depending on the day) and finding comfort in that. I find moments where I consider the existence of a god, but no longer the Christian god and no longer do I feel the need to consider what "it" may think about my life. It's taken me a while, but I'm finally at a point where I can process things withou
    5 points
  23. Questioning Christianity too deeply does seem to be very difficult for a lot of people. In addition to the early indoctrination and the deep emotional ties and fear of abandonment, the prospect of an eternal reward or punishment also makes the stakes very high. Besides emotional security, one thing which seems to get a lot of people questioning is when some negative event weakens those emotional ties, for instance when some tragic event in their lives causes them to doubt that God cares about them, or when learning of some negative aspect of Christianity causes them to doubt God's
    5 points
  24. As someone living under a the longest-reigning monarch in English history I feel the need to point out something else. The oddity Florduh has highlighted is thrown into even sharper relief when you consider that we are not talking about a monarch who can change or be changed in any way. 1. Even the worst human monarch is destined to die and be replaced by an heir. This allows for the possibility that the new ruler may be better than their predecessor. There is no such possibility with God. 2. Human kings and queens who become tyrannical c
    5 points
  25. Hi Krowb, and welcome to our community! Almost everybody here has to conceal their unbelief to some extent at least. A few are unable to be honest even with their spouses. Many can’t be open with some or all of their children, likewise very often with parents or grandparents (“it would kill Mom if she knew”). And even those who can be themselves among family and some friends, have to be careful with business relationships, as you’ve seen. If every agnostic or atheist could be open, everybody would know some unbeliever, and the stigma would be harder to sustain, so it’s a bit
    5 points
  26. I never thought I will say this, after 40 years of being a Christian - How I wish I never met Jesus and its over zealous followers. What I thought a chance encounter with a fellow student as a divine appointment is one single most tragic event in my life. As a gullible young man longing for friendship, I surrendered under relentless "witnessing to say sinner's prayer in 1975 and accepted the mind control of an extremist ministry group whose unofficial motto by some "spiritual giant" team leaders was "never dater". Dating was, as proudly proclaimed by these leaders, were too distracting to se
    5 points
  27. Congratulations on escaping a toxic marriage!
    5 points
  28. Hi Brianna, I’m sorry you’ve had your heart broken by religious fundamentalism / fanaticism. I’ve seen it happen too many times, where a couple who seemed made for each other are driven apart when one of them falls under the influence of extreme religion. We Ex-Christians sometimes half-jokingly refer to religious faith as a brain-virus and in the case of your ex it seems like an appropriate analogy, unfortunately. He has become a different person now and sadly for you, he is not likely to emerge from this for a very long time, if ever. Even if you could somehow share his fa
    5 points
  29. Welcome to ExC!! I dont consider myself atheist. I prefer the term nontheiest. I know I dont believe in the bible or christianity, or any other man made religion. But I dont rule out all possibilities of there being something else other than what we can see. Ehrman is a good author. Reading some of his books really opened my eyes. Knowledge is power and will help you shake that fear of hell. Ehrman will help you understand why there are so many contradictions in the bible. I once applauded Paul for writing so much of the new testament. When I deconverted I read ehrman
    5 points
  30. One may certainly pretend there is a god yet refrain from doing all the horrible things we can attribute to Abrahamic religions. A problem still remains, though, when magical thinking trumps rational thinking and personal responsibility gets outsourced to imaginary beings. Real world issues such as disease have been and continue to be addressed by science; not prayers, spells, holy water and other such appeals to the nonexistent. One might think that by the 21st Century we would have had enough experience with reality that we would have outgrown superstitious beliefs, but sadly that's not the
    5 points
  31. Almost to a person, the anti-theists are former members of one of the cults, primarily Christianity around here. It's a crucial difference. Anti blacks have never been black and don't have any facts or experience to work with. Same for anti Jewish and Islam haters. Anti atheists have likely never even been atheist but rather spend their life in pervasive religious indoctrination that paints non believers as enemies. Again, anti-theists have been there, done that and understand the mindset and dangers posed by believers. Christian theology preaching Hell to children is
    5 points
  32. "Lord, please bless this food. Though I assume sanity food preparation protocols were used in producing what we're having for dinner tonight, we realize sometimes feces, hair and other foreign material can be introduced into , say, those delicious "looking" mashed potatoes. I'm sure these will be fine though because of your blessing them. Amen." "Lord Jesus, please bless our food...and bless the democrats for [some current legislation]. Please also bless each and every member of the LGBTQ community. Give the gays your love Jesus, for they surely need it , just like every individua
    5 points
  33. Would they help you perform a witchcraft ritual? I bet not. Would they enjoy watching some Matt Dillahunty on youtube with you? If not, then you get to pretend you are hurt by that so they can understand where you are coming from. You didn't hurt that person by not praying with/for them. They have been programmed with a kooky idea. Dont feel bad or guilty because they have a kooky idea. You are not obliged to share in their kooky idea and most especially NOT their trying to guilt you over it.
    5 points
  34. I hate to say it, but if there's any chance that some radical fundie church could fall into disarray over a magick spell, meh, fire away!!!! If it works, let's please do the global conference of seventh day adventist's next. And the Church of Christ while the momentum is going....
    5 points
  35. Warnings about the depravity of nonbelievers is nothing but a scare tactic. Several secular societies have less crime and are more humanitarian than Christian ones. There is no proof that athiests/agnostics have more out of wedlock sex than christians. From my observation, there is no difference. Read about the HADZA tribe in Africa. No Christian God for thousands of years, but a very peaceful group. The doctrine of original sin is a self fulfilling prophecy designed to keep people in submission, and give the religious police job security. And in some cases make themselves r
    5 points
  36. Well, if you don't sin, then jesus died for nothing.
    5 points
  37. I'm currently reading (in very small bits) a book called "Why Buddhism is True" by Robert Wright. I'm posting about this here because I am wondering if anyone would be interested in reading along and having a sort of book-club discussion about it. In case anyone is wondering, the author does not advocate for the more "religious" aspects of Buddhism, but rather discusses the more philosophical aspects as they relate to neuroscience and evolutionary psychology. (I've only read the first 40 pages). In the spirit of full disclosure here, I'm seeing a therapist who is trying to get me to do
    4 points
  38. Naked contraceptives are another story, though.
    4 points
  39. Creation mythologies are reverse engineering reality. It can never make sense.
    4 points
  40. In the Nazarene church where I first attended in the 80s (during the strong revival of belief in demons, pushed by campus groups like Maranatha, and then by seemingly conservative believers), they had a teaching series on Spiritual Warfare. The pastor embraced the teachings as biblical and began talking openly about demons, whereas previously he held that they were more mental illness. At a Sunday morning service a woman let out a scream like a caged tiger combined with tearing metal, flipped out of the pew backwards and landed in the lap of my buddy. The pastor began quietly doing spiritual w
    4 points
  41. The cult of Trump escalated my departure from Christianity. As I watched dignity, honor, and character take a backseat to the Republican party, I started to realize how many Christians were really just Republicans. Has it always been this way? I tell myself that before Obama, people argued over policy. Am I wrong? Has American Christianity always been a tool to control elections or are we seeing something new under Trump? I'm not naive enough to think politicians don't pander. I just don't know if I'm only just now (since 2015) seeing it for what it is because of Trump,
    4 points
  42. Oh look someone who doesn't understand science. This is going to be a great conversation. Apparently we should all still believe in the flat earth because accepting the evidence that the earth is a sphere is "moving goalposts" SMH
    4 points
  43. Not only is Biden not far left, he is actually more of a centrist right-winger, who is basically in the corporations pocket. The only person in the US presidential race that could be considered left was Bernie, and even though he referred to himself as socialist, he wasn't. He's more of a left wing centrist who wanted to bring in some social policies. (Not the same as Socialist). My bet is if you asked US citizens what Socialism and Communisms and Capitalism are, and asked them to differentiate, most would give incorrect answers. The problem in the US is that it is so f
    4 points
  44. What you're seeing is not new. It has been building up since I was a kid back in the 70s and 80s. 9/11 gave it an massive adrenaline rush and Trumpism has sent it into overdrive.
    4 points
  45. This tells me you don't know much about firearms. The absolute best home defense weapon is a shotgun. Not a short one either. Semi-auto or a pump action. Eight rounds. They are basically idiot proof, easy to clear, clean, and maintain. It has a lower chance of penetrating walls, floors, and ceilings at lethal velocity. Meaning it's difficult to shoot a family member in another room or a neighbor and accidentally kill or injure them. The spread means it has a wider effective area. With a handgun you have to be on target, with a shotgun you don't n
    4 points
  46. I actually thought of a better one where you lead with, "Lord Jesus bless our President Trump and continue to guide his hand as you have for the last 4 years, let him continue to do your will as he has for this great country....(and once you have em sucked in, continue with) and Lord bless Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and AOC as you have guided them to do your will... bless all our republican and democratic leaders ....blah blah blah. fun stuff. lol
    4 points
  47. It's fascinating to me the number of situations in which two scenarios could have been possible - a scenario that could ONLY have been possible if God/the Bible were true (we'll call these "scenario 1") OR the scenario one would expect if God/the Bible WEREN'T TRUE ("Scenario 2"). In each instance, we always find the second scenario to be how things actually are, yet there exists a Christian doctrine to explain why reality is this "unexpected way"... For example, given divine inspiration of scripture, there are 2 possibilities of how reality could have been regarding divine PRESE
    4 points


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