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  1. Hey, openbook! Just wanted to say welcome and glad you found the forum. This is a great place to come and get help through this transition you're facing. Oh also I was wondering, are you doing a church wedding? I imagine the wedding plans are pretty interesting given your atheist fiancee and religious family. 2H
  2. Welcome from a fellow Texan! We live in the DFW area, too. I'm sorry for all the trouble you've been through in the church. We have some horror stories, too. How long have you been out of the church? How long have you been a wicked unbeliever? <jk> We left the church and faith around the same time - last October. It's been a pretty difficult process but like you said, we're so much more free now. I hope your wife comes around eventually, I know it must be really hard to go through this on your own. There are many people here in your situation. If you are interested in getting together with other "freethinkers", there are actually a lot of opportunities in the DFW area for that. http://meetup.fofdallas.org/ http://www.meetup.com/FWFreethinkers/ http://www.meetup.com/church-of-freethought/
  3. Margee, I admire you for opening up here and thank you for sharing what you're going through. You are doing the right thing, finding ways to take care of yourself and be good to yourself. I'm an empath, too, and can totally relate to the need to be self-protective. I agree with whoever said people are unknowingly being abusive to you by sharing these terrible things. I understand that people need someone to open up to. But taking advantage of a person who has no choice but to stand there listening is just cruel. You are not responsible to be their listening ear. You are being paid to cut their hair. That is all. I have never taken advantage of a hair dresser in that way. I recognize that they are there to do their job, not be my counselor or best friend for an hour. I understand that you've developed a relationship with many of these people and feel like they are friends. But if someone stops being your client because you need to set healthy boundaries, they are not someone who should be sitting in your chair anyway. I know this process is difficult but I really think it's going to be great for you. I think making these changes will result in a better and healthier life for you. Good luck with everything, and please keep us posted on how you're doing! Much love! 2H
  4. It's amazing how one can learn so much from visiting various forums around here, ie: Oklahoma having a sizable number of freethinkers, et.al. I've always thought OK. was one of your typical redneck places where I would NEVER visit. I guess I'll have to reassess my views (again). Thanks. Yeah, it does seem surprising. We live in TX and there's actually a great organization of freethinkers and atheists here, as well. Things are definitely changing. Look out, we're taking over the world!!! (BTW - any of you looking for atheist stuff in Oklahoma - just google "oklahoma atheists". There are several websites and groups that come up.)
  5. Welcome, LifeCycle. Questioning is what got every one of us in trouble. There just are no answers. Once I realized that I had to open my mind and allow myself to look for answers outside of my deeply held belief system (of 30 years), it was all over. I wasn't prepared for the answers I found. It is an uncomfortable feeling, as you said. But it is also very freeing. Now you don't have to live with the confusion and frustration of trying to believe things that don't make sense. You are free to question and to find your own answers. I'm sorry that you are going through this alone right now. I hope your wife will be open to these changes in your life. There are many here in your situation who can understand and help you navigate through all of that. From what I understand Oklahoma has a pretty well organized freethought/atheist population. I know Seth of The Thinking Atheist lives there and I've heard there are some good meetups. Also there's the annual Oklahoma Freethought Convention which just took place. The Thinking Atheist just posted one of the videos from that and will be uploading more soon. So if you do want to connect with others in your community you should be able to find some things to get involved in. I realize that right now that may be difficult with your wife and family not knowing about your transition, though. Good luck to you on your journey. It can be difficult at times, but it is SO worth it. 2H
  6. Wow, I can so relate to what happened to your husband. I'm really sorry to hear of his illness. I'm glad you were able to figure out what's going on. Sometimes we do have to take matters into our own hands with that stuff. I'm sure your husband will come out of this just fine, especially since he has you.
  7. In honor of all our facebook fundy friends.
  8. I just have to laugh when my xian friends/family like my FB status, not knowing it's a quote from an atheist. :)

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    2. Wings
    3. Serendipity Rose

      Serendipity Rose

      Ha ha! I know! Isn't it great?

    4. mcdaddy


      It feels SOOOOOOO GOOOOOOD!!!!! its our own private little joke...MUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

  9. Hi, Edie. Glad you found the forum, sounds like it's just the right time for you. I'm sorry for all that you've been through. Good for you for getting out! I can't imagine how difficult that must have been. Sounds like you are on the path to starting a new life. Here's to a great future for you! 2H
  10. "This is the manipulation of religion, the chains which bind people and the scissors which clip the wings off human consciousness." - Jake49

    1. GardenerGal


      religion runs so deep, doesn't it? makes me amazed it still continues.

  11. As if Wal-Mart isn't horrible enough on a Saturday...today the "NesQuick Bunny" was there roaming around the store. I think anything resembling a life-sized puppet is super creepy! Luckily I did not look the bunny directly in the eyes and he did not approach me. Phew!

  12. jblueep and I now have the same number of reputation points! Yet another form of pleasurable simultaneous achievement!

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    2. jblueep


      Wanted no applause,

      It's just another cause,

      Made a meal out of me, and come back for more,


      Had to cool me down,

      To take another round,

      Now I'm back in the ring to take another swing

    3. Akheia


      pics or it didn't happen

    4. jblueep
  13. "Hey Jesus! This one needs an enema! Stat!"
  14. Ok, normally when my friends/family member "like" these stupid-ass "Jesus Page" photos, I just ignore them. But this one is so damned ridiculous I could not control myself. I commented: "If Jesus is the "Healing Doctor" why are there ACTUAL doctors in the pic? If Jesus heals through people, why do people spend 12 years and up to $300,000 going to go to med school and become physicians? How many of you have actually been healed by Jesus? How many of you have been healed by a doctor? Exactly. So why don't you all thank your DOCTORS for all their hard work and compassion. I get it, I believed the same thing as you for many years. But then I started using my brain. " But of course my comment was deleted by the mods a few seconds after I posted it.
  15. "preparing it for Jesus" LOL! This cracked me up. I've imagined many times the conversations our former friends must be having about us. It's so ridiculous. I think this is a very healthy way of looking at it. People don't respond well to challenges to their deeply held beliefs. But if that challenge comes from a place of love and concern they are more likely to walk away from the conversation and consider, if only subconsciously, what the person said to them. I think you're on the right track with this.
  16. 19 years and it just keeps gettin' better. Happy anniversary to us! @jblueep

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    2. ficino


      Wonderful, all the best and enjoy your anniversary!

    3. florduh


      Happy Heathen Anniversary!

    4. Wings
  17. I believe in god again. Lucky for me I'm married to him. ;oP

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    2. jblueep


      Oh yeah, our kids are on this forum. I actually wasn't thinking of that. But yeah, embarrassing teenagers is awesome :)

    3. 2Honest


      Yeah, I'm thinking the sounds emanating from our room and the "napping" sign on the door probably gave us away. They'll be scarred for life. hahaha

    4. Thought2Much


      It's occurred to my wife and I lately that we're eventually going to need a bed that doesn't squeak quite as much as the one we have now.

  18. I woke up to these nuggets of pure gold this morning! From my sis-in-law: God doesn’t do good things for us because we are good and we deserve them. He does good things for us because He is good and loves us. From my cousin: Jesus.......has saved us. Jesus.......has forgiven us over and over. Jesus.......has solved so many problems for us. Jesus.......has protected us. Jesus.......has fed and clothed us. JESUS IS COMING TO GET US. LIKE IF YOU AGREE.
  19. Is this a stab at you and J? Right on, Pos. We definitely think that it is. J had a FB conversation on the wall of a former church friend and we think this was P's response to that. I'm glad you pointed this out. Part of me was still wondering if we were just being too sensitive or imagining things. But if you even caught that as an outsider, I guess we were right to take it that way. I'm so over this shit.
  20. "If you keep your eyes open enough, Oh, the stuff you will learn! The most wonderful stuff! You'll miss the best things if you keep your eyes shut" - Dr. Seuss

    1. AnnaNymity


      <claps her hands> Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

      Dr. Seuss

  21. Our former friend/pastor's wife posted this status this morning: ================================================================================================== There is no "blind faith," really--faith results from seeing the unseen! Fundie Commenter: If you can't "see it" you don't really have faith for for it! You go girl! Pastor's Wife: most misunderstood concept in the body of Christ, probably! Fundie Commenter: ‘Faith apprehends as a real fact what is not revealed to the senses. It rests on that fact, acts upon it, and is upheld by it in the face of all that seems to contradict it. Faith is real seeing.' (Vincent) ================================================================================================= There are no words.........
  22. Laughing in the kitchen with our teenage kids and their friends...giving our daughter a lesson on the "proper" way to flip someone off...ahhh I love being an atheist parent!

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    2. stryper


      kinda reminds me of this quote from the Boondock Saints:


      Rocco: Fucking... what the fucking fuck... who the fuck fucked this fucking... how did you two fucking fucks... FUCK!


      Connor: Well, that certainly illustrates the diversity of the word.

    3. 2Honest


      My kids gotta represent! ;D

    4. AnnaNymity



      Sorry, I CAN'T remember how to make it an active link--been too long

  23. Welcome, JLu! Critical thinking is what got me in trouble, too. There's not much room for that in the christian world, is there? Like you, I found that I could not hold on to my perception of god as a loving "father". I realized in the end that I was a much better parent than he was. It wasn't too much of a jump from there to realizing he was never actually there at all. I agree with you - that realization was a relief. Has your wife deconverted, as well? Hope you can stick around here and make some friends.
  24. Welcome to another fellow Texan! Glad you found the forum. Thanks for sharing your story with us. Good luck to you with your schooling and your new life! In case you didn't know, there are quite a few non-theist groups in TX: You can do a search on the meetup site to see if there are any near you. http://www.meetup.com/ Also, Recovering from Religion has support groups in TX. The groups are for people who have left, are in the process of leaving church/faith, or who are stuck in situations where they must still attend church but no longer believe: http://recoveringfromreligion.org/pages/findgroup And there's even a "freethought church" in Dallas: http://fofdallas.org/
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