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TrueFreedom last won the day on August 6 2013

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    I grew up in the church, studied for ministry, married, began a secular career, stayed active in the church while struggling with doubt, and finally escaped religious indoctrination between age 35-40.

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  1. Ed, are you in Texas? What area? I would definitely take florduh up on that beer.
  2. Me too! I was always a freak, but I saved myself for marriage. 23 years later, I got my first BJ, and then so. much. more.
  3. Bart Ehrman is great at providing objective, non-inflammatory explanations. Misquoting Jesus and Jesus, Interrupted are my favorites written for popular audiences. John Loftus provides an excellent perspective from a former evangelical. Why I Became an Atheist is amazing. Richard Elliott Friedman is an OT authority. I've enjoyed reading Elaine Pagels on early Christianity and gnosticism. Many enjoy Karen Armstrong, "A former Roman Catholic religious sister, she went from a conservative to a more liberal and mystical Christian faith."
  4. Hang in there, Kdeaustin. You'll feel better once you learn how absurd those religious teachings are. Here's a brief introduction to the history of the hell doctrine:
  5. I’m not sure that he’s intentionally trolling, but he certainly meets the qualifications and is obviously an idiot. I guess we’re hard up for Christians willing to debate.
  6. “Anyone who defines themselves by their unbelief and who asks this question is NEVER interested in anything being said AND YOU ALL KNOW IT!” Cheesus... I seriously doubt that many forum members define themselves by their past mistakes. Most of us were indoctrinated into your death cult from infancy. We came here to purge and recover. I’m still just paying it forward. But you’re right about the lack of interest you’re likely to find here in being convinced again that the Christian bible is literally true or that any form of Christianity is even tenable.
  7. Thank you for acknowledging that you're a presuppositionalist. I'll list a few common presuppositions from a rationalwiki article on the subject and address them as a naturalist as an example of how you might communicate an honest, personal opinion while citing from other sources: A God exists. I doubt this, especially one that humans would be able to relate to. Spirituality exists. Humans (but not canines) have at least one soul. I doubt this, as personality and memories are tied so strongly to the brain and its health and survival. An afterlife (as distinct from reincarnation) exists. I doubt this, as personality and memories are tied so strongly to the brain and its health and survival. A universe (and its included creatures and critters[6]) implies creation. I disagree. The nature of the universe is one of death and chaos, not of life and intelligent design. Divine omniscience interacts in some mysterious way with free will. Though I have not managed to adequately resolve the tension between determinism and free will, I don't see anyone steering the ship. Human nature inclines to anti-social behavior[7] (sin). We all act selfishly at times but have evolved in community and tend to act altruistically at times as well. I can expound on my reasoning for coming to these conclusions and provide sources if you're interested. I would expect the same from someone else with a reasonable amount of integrity. And, no, Christianity did not invent the concept of integrity, nor do I consider it authoritative on the subject.
  8. Christians with good intentions will ask other Christians to pray for us out of concern for our eternal destinations.The larger problem that I faced was the spreading of nefarious speculations regarding what they thought that I must have done in order to reach a point of what they saw as denial or unrighteous defiance.
  9. I cut communication with some family for a while. I would let them know how I feel about it and base next steps on their reactions.
  10. The decision was not made lightly, and he had many opportunities to dial back his trolling. It's not like it was about censoring dissenting views. It was about excessive trolling, plain and simple, about topics completely unrelated to the purpose of these forums, something that he was actually willing to pay to do, evidently, as he was a subscriber.
  11. I don’t consider Christianity a religion. It’s more a classification for a vast collection of diverse religious cults based on a wide range of beliefs influenced by a few common books and traditions at differing degrees.
  12. Another brief, quality intro to the invention of hell in audio/video:
  13. I came across a concise article on the invention of hell and thought that it would make a nice introduction to a thread for historic teachings about a place of suffering after death. "This article seeks to chart in particular the provenance of ideas regarding Hell, particularly how it came to be the everlasting inferno that many people in the West still envisage to be the eventual fate of the wicked." https://infidels.org/kiosk/article/the-invention-of-hell-939.html
  14. Many of us favor teaching children about as many religions and cultures as we can. Do you do the same? How about secular perspectives?
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