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  1. Hi All, not checked in for a good many years. Registered in 2012 when de-converted. Was very helpful the support then. Hope you're doing ok coming out of the pandemic. I still stupidly struggle with breaking completely free from the self programming. I've been back to church a few times as one offs (why!?) and sometimes look up bible stuff, then have to consciously remind myself what nonsense it is. I'm the UK which is very secular and nearly everyone has no religion or in name only here. But I was brought up by Christian parents, went to Sunday school, church choirs. This is the root cause I think of my problem. I went on and off through 20s, then very into it in my 30s, and hardly at all in my 40s. I wish it was easier to turn off. Others can just click a switch and leave. But think I've had such a dose of it that it's not easy to mentally break free completely. See from the forum others have had similar problems. I think the internet and the pandemic will to a large extent reduce, kill off? religion. It's a good thing that most of the youth are growing up without this nonsense. They unfortunately seem to have other mental health issues to deal with with social media etc. My guess is in uk/Europe Christianity it will be gone in a generation, will take longer in the US. Islam will take longer too. But eventually humanity will have grown out of it. I remember about 30 having a 'religious experience' (in the mind), on holiday, with amazing views and warm fuzzy feeling. I put this down to 'God' and led to 10 years of what I thought was liberal Christianity whereas looking back on it was what we'd call fundy phase (crazy). I also took a following, keen interest in conspiracies. Think they are related in terms of willingness to suspend rational thought. To think the time I've wasted obsessing about such things! Since deconversion about 9 years ago i now try and see the world in reality, in it's natural state. I try to see reality rather than comforting myths or wild conspiracies. Most of the time I do, occasionally backslide. And to think We were told... God sent himself to pray to himself, then sacrifice himself to himself, to save himself from himself.. hmmm makes total sense i don't think!! Thanks for letting me share my story and little rant. Take care.
  2. For any new or newish to the forum, there is a collection of contradictions in handy form on the front page of the website. I find this interesting and really like it as it has the facts in two pages which is easy to follow. I prefer this to massive long lists you see on the web. Link http://articles.exchristian.net/2005/11/7-e-z-steps-to-get-handy-collection-of.html
  3. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. guess this is what you'd expect from bronze age sheep and goat herders
  4. What is your favorite funny biblical tale? One of mine is when Jesus curses the fig tree... In between fishing trips, and long periods of time spent praying to himself, Jesus sets off back to the city. It is early morning and he is hungry. He sees a fig tree by the side of the road but it has only leaves on it, not figs. He says "May you never bear fruit again!” The creator of the universe! curses the tree causing it to immediately wither. Showing off his power!! His friends are impressed! Saying "How did the fig tree wither so quickly?" And it gets more crazy still. Jesus replies "Truly I tell you, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and it will be done. If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.” Talk about delusional !! But we are told Jesus IS God so he is infallible and perfect. All knowing. Yet he is cursing a tree
  5. Welcome to the forum, Frozen. To unlearn "destructive ways of thinking", you have to reprogramme your mind by replacing negative thoughts with positive ones. The way religion programs people is through repetition. We have actually been conditioned at church, with much of the programming at an unconscious level. It takes conscious effort to undo the programming and to reprogramme yourself. Good luck!
  6. I attended a Pentecostal church for a few weeks. Speaking in tongues is very much on the wackier fringe of Christianity. Looks crazy to me now, but at the time when I was looking at the Pentecostal church it seemed normal. Bizarre..
  7. There is a priest, pastor and rabbi. The pastor asks how do you share your collection. The priest says "I draw a line on the floor, throw the collection money in the air and what falls to the right of the line is mine, and to the left is Gods" The pastor says "I draw a circle on the floor, toss the collection money in the air, what falls in the circle is mine and outside is Gods" Finally the rabbi replies. He says "I throw thecollection money in the air, what God catches he keeps, the rest is for me"
  8. Prophet Mohammed's friend says "Your wife is calling you a pedophile." Mohammed replies "Thats a big word, for a nine year old!"
  9. Nice post, although I would like to add my own thoughts on 1) and 10) God's "actions" are of course non-existent. His utter inaction is to me evidence of his non-existence, or evidence for him not being concerned with his creation. I think Christianity central doctrine is that belief in Jesus will save you, not that 99.99% will go to hell. Again can think of no actual evidence for this apart from dubious letters in the bible.
  10. Hi, Great post, but going back to the first point,... of course there is no historical Adam & Eve, as many/most mainstream and liberal denominations believe. So without an Adam and Eve there is no fall of man, and no need for atonement and no need for salvation. Christianity is already proven false, as the Genesis creation account and Garden of Eden are mythology, and therefore is without solid foundaton.
  11. I guess this is why liberal Christians ignore the Genesis creation account and the ridiculous tower of Babel story, even though the writers of the new testament believed in these myths.
  12. Phase 3 - give your money to priest/ pastor (important) Phase 4 - research Christianity, realize you have been scammed! Phase 5 - join ex-christian forum
  13. Welcome to the forum. Its crazy that you parents would control/ disown you for not believing in fairy tales! Of course cohabiting is a perfectly normal and sensible thing to do as a lifestyle choice and if you chose to marry at a later date,
  14. I dont think I've ever heard what a "soul" actually is. I dont think there can be a good explanation. People want to live forever and claim to have souls which live eternally after you die. t strikes as wishful thinking.
  15. I find myself being more respectful towards gays, atheists, agnostics, and non believers, those unmarried/ cohabiting, and other lifestyles which the church views as sinful. There is literally billions of people who you no longer look down upon for not being "saved". You don't have to damn every person on the planet, as there is no hell to damn them to. Instead you view the world in reality without "God" glasses.
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