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Lilith666 last won the day on February 13 2017

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About Lilith666

  • Birthday 04/04/1995

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    I have two main hobbies: I love music and love to read. I also like art galleries, drama, and playing with my iPod. Of course, theology and philosophy are big ones, since I'm on here.
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    I quit Christianity on November 22, sometime in the afternoon, when I was 14 years old. I had been having guiltily suppressed doubts for a couple years, but then I read a chapter of the missionary Jack Popjes' book A Kick in the Pants, in which he said Jesus had been sent to save the world
    mainly for God's glory, to make people want to worship him. (If you read
    the Old Testament, particularly Exodus and Job, it gets into God glorifying
    himself quite a bit.) Well, a seasoned Christian like Popjes saying that
    broke my faith in the point of Christianity. Why should I trust Jesus if
    salvation is really about polishing God's pedestal? If you want to read
    about other things that are wrong with it, like the Bible's sexist double
    standards and winking at rapists, comment on my profile. Best wishes to all other infidels. 

    P.S. I should probably clarify that I am not a Satanist. I know Satanists like the number 666, but I think they misuse it. To me, it is a symbol of secularism, of my non-Xian values, because Xians consider that number to be evil. So I like it. I hate killing, I don't want to go to hell, and I enjoy being happy. 

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    Truth and peace.

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  1. I remember the saccharine Matt Redman-type stuff we had to sing. It did get uncomfortable, the over the top syrupiness and vaguely sexual lyrics. Even though we were supposed to "enjoy" worshipping god this was not encouraged in practice. Dancing to upbeat songs was frowned upon. I got the feeling we could never get it right, if we were too serious we weren't in touch with god but having fun was irreverent.
  2. I take Christians' claims that they would be evil without god with many grains of salt. They tend to have this persistent self-abasing belief because the bible tells them so. They may claim it, but people say things without understanding what they really would do because they have never thought outside what the bible says. That claim probably shows a lack of self-knowledge.
  3. Huh. I've run into plenty of unsavory people; maybe I'll read this.
  4. Your letter is powerful, TS.
  5. I found a quiz about whether suggestive phrases are intentionally sexual, or are from Christian worship songs. Have fun https://www.google.com/amp/s/homeschoolersanonymous.org/2014/04/12/50-shades-of-grey-or-contemporary-christian-music-lyrics-a-quiz/amp/
  6. I took on overtime so I had to bring three ham sandwiches, because I get a second lunch. I am eating my last sandwich. Pawn Stars is on the television. There is a guy trying to sell kewpie dolls.
  7. I agree with those who have suggested you see your doctor about this. You don't know what the voices might tell you. This is concerning.
  8. Ex-C is for everyone who wants to come here, and will abide by site rules. If you have a problem, try talking to the person directly with the intent of peacefully resolving the issue, or ask a mod to intervene. Otherwise, I'd suggest picking your battles. Everyone has a different experience, and some take longer to reach their destination: often years, or even decades. All of us here were Christian at one point. It helps to extend the patience to others that we likely received from non-Christians in our own religious stage, even if we didn't know it.
  9. At my grandfather's funeral the minister reminded us repeatedly that anyone who was not "saved" would go to hell. My grandfather was Christian, but it made me so angry that anyone would think it's appropriate to guilt people into joining a religion, especially at a time like that, and cause further pain to those attending who were Christians.
  10. Is it legal for an employer to penalize a worker for leaving early due to illness, even after the worker provides requested documentation?

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    2. Lilith666


      Yep, this company doesn't have a good reputation.

    3. LogicalFallacy


      Sounds like the employers were arseholes. It would not be legal in NZ. If the regulations state that no penalisation is to be given in proven circumstances where you are, and the employer still does then that's illegal.

    4. Akheia


      Hi! Just saw this... And yes, it is perfectly legal. Many states in the US are "at-will" employers, which means that an employee can literally be fired for any reason at all--even for no reason at all. Only a few situations are protected, and even then only in certain ways (usually requiring accommodation, like in the case of very religious employees who need certain days off). Particularly for low-wage jobs, workers get penalized for missing work on an occurrence-type system that gives workers a certain amount of leeway for missing work and then slams them hard for going over that limit. For example, if a worker is skating on the edge of that leeway and then gets strep throat, they may discover themselves fired even though strep throat is obviously a serious medical emergency.


      I'd consult HR, but bear in mind that in the States, very few employers care how valid the absence is or care about doctors' notes. I'd also suggest looking into FMLA protection; it can be retroactively applied to cover longer absences (I used it when I got shingles some years back and my husband's used it to cover a week lost to strep throat.). The problem is that FMLA only applies to certain kinds of employees and has certain requirements that may make it impossible to gain its protections. Hope you're doing okay...

  11. I saw this sign that said "Walk by faith and not by sight." Okay, next time I cross the road I'll shut my eyes and have faith there isn't a car coming.
  12. There wasn't a biblical passage that finally did it; it was a Christian book that stated Jesus made his "sacrifice" ultimately for his glory, rather than for saving humanity. That added up when I thought about God's arrogant and entitled attitude, going on so much about demanding worship from people. And that brought it all crashing down for me, because then what was the point of believing in him? The closest thing to my special passage would be Paul's comments in Ephesians on marriage. No matter how much anyone told me that husbands were to protect their wives and keeping the marriage afloat didn't all fall to women (missing the point and setting up a straw man too), I couldn't believe that telling them to be subservient was right. Husbands not being allowed to beat their wives didn't change that all of it, the command to protect as well as submit, was extremely condescending and infantilizing. This passage sent me on the path to de-conversion.
  13. Welcome to Ex-C. Sorry you're going through this. Anger at Christianity and zeal to de-convert people are pretty common for awhile after you leave; I was in that state for three or four years afterward. Still, I agree with the suggestions of backing off the crusading until your wife seems more receptive. If you haven't gotten anywhere so far by sparring with her, you probably won't by continuing to hammer your point. Besides, by forcefully putting down Jesus/Rachel's beliefs, you're setting yourself up as the bad guy. Try being compassionate and understanding without compromising your own beliefs, show her you're on her side. As well as just being kind, it may help break down her idea of non-Christians as angry and hostile toward Christians, if she buys into that, instead of reinforcing it. I can't guarantee that she will become more willing to listen, but it might be a start. I'm so glad you realize you're not obligated to continue believing the same things your whole life. Only you are in charge of your mind, not Jesus, not your wife, not anybody or anything else. You'll probably end up compromising on how to raise the kids, but opposite to the Christian demand that its followers always maintain a childish trust in whatever they're told and lifelong devotion to Jesus, there's a great deal of freedom in the knowledge that you can change your opinions and priorities.
  14. The Jesus Christmas is essentially a celebration of death and torture and forcibly impregnating teenagers, dressed up in "Christ's love." It's about anything but. There may not be a "real" meaning of the holiday as far as world-saving historical events go, but it doesn't hurt to have a reminder to be kind and generous to each other. That's real enough for me. As far as carols go, I do miss believing in the lyrics but I don't miss feeling like I should be thinking about Jesus every time I was having fun eating food and watching Christmas movies instead. Renouncing Christianity has its benefits as well as sacrifices.
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