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About Lilith666

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    I have two main hobbies: I love music and love to read. I also like art galleries, drama, and playing with my iPod. Of course, theology and philosophy are big ones, since I'm on here.
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    I quit Christianity on November 22, sometime in the afternoon, when I was 14 years old. I had been having guiltily suppressed doubts for a couple years, but then I read a chapter of the missionary Jack Popjes' book A Kick in the Pants, in which he said Jesus had been sent to save the world
    mainly for God's glory, to make people want to worship him. (If you read
    the Old Testament, particularly Exodus and Job, it gets into God glorifying
    himself quite a bit.) Well, a seasoned Christian like Popjes saying that
    broke my faith in the point of Christianity. Why should I trust Jesus if
    salvation is really about polishing God's pedestal? If you want to read
    about other things that are wrong with it, like the Bible's sexist double
    standards and winking at rapists, comment on my profile. Best wishes to all other infidels. 

    P.S. I should probably clarify that I am not a Satanist. I know Satanists like the number 666, but I think they misuse it. To me, it is a symbol of secularism, of my non-Xian values, because Xians consider that number to be evil. So I like it. I hate killing, I don't want to go to hell, and I enjoy being happy. 

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    Truth and peace.

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  1. I saw this sign that said "Walk by faith and not by sight." Okay, next time I cross the road I'll shut my eyes and have faith there isn't a car coming.
  2. There wasn't a biblical passage that finally did it; it was a Christian book that stated Jesus made his "sacrifice" ultimately for his glory, rather than for saving humanity. That added up when I thought about God's arrogant and entitled attitude, going on so much about demanding worship from people. And that brought it all crashing down for me, because then what was the point of believing in him? The closest thing to my special passage would be Paul's comments in Ephesians on marriage. No matter how much anyone told me that husbands were to protect their wives and keeping the marriage afloat didn't all fall to women (missing the point and setting up a straw man too), I couldn't believe that telling them to be subservient was right. Husbands not being allowed to beat their wives didn't change that all of it, the command to protect as well as submit, was extremely condescending and infantilizing. This passage sent me on the path to de-conversion.
  3. I guess I asked for it.

    Welcome to Ex-C. Sorry you're going through this. Anger at Christianity and zeal to de-convert people are pretty common for awhile after you leave; I was in that state for three or four years afterward. Still, I agree with the suggestions of backing off the crusading until your wife seems more receptive. If you haven't gotten anywhere so far by sparring with her, you probably won't by continuing to hammer your point. Besides, by forcefully putting down Jesus/Rachel's beliefs, you're setting yourself up as the bad guy. Try being compassionate and understanding without compromising your own beliefs, show her you're on her side. As well as just being kind, it may help break down her idea of non-Christians as angry and hostile toward Christians, if she buys into that, instead of reinforcing it. I can't guarantee that she will become more willing to listen, but it might be a start. I'm so glad you realize you're not obligated to continue believing the same things your whole life. Only you are in charge of your mind, not Jesus, not your wife, not anybody or anything else. You'll probably end up compromising on how to raise the kids, but opposite to the Christian demand that its followers always maintain a childish trust in whatever they're told and lifelong devotion to Jesus, there's a great deal of freedom in the knowledge that you can change your opinions and priorities.
  4. Christmas is not the same

    The Jesus Christmas is essentially a celebration of death and torture and forcibly impregnating teenagers, dressed up in "Christ's love." It's about anything but. There may not be a "real" meaning of the holiday as far as world-saving historical events go, but it doesn't hurt to have a reminder to be kind and generous to each other. That's real enough for me. As far as carols go, I do miss believing in the lyrics but I don't miss feeling like I should be thinking about Jesus every time I was having fun eating food and watching Christmas movies instead. Renouncing Christianity has its benefits as well as sacrifices.
  5. How do you handle Xtian door-knockers now?

    Haven't had any of those in a while, but if I did I'd probably say nicely, "thanks, but I'm not interested," and shut the door even if they kept talking. (And keep it shut once I had.) They may look hurt, but that's their problem and remember Christians are great at manipulation. You didn't ask them to show up and they are bothering you at your home. I had a roommate who said sending them away was rude, but what's really rude is showing up at your house and telling you their beliefs are better than yours.
  6. Asking for charity donations (no particular) instead of Xmas gifts: nice or tacky? I have stuff already and don't need more, which would just be more to carry when I move out. But I don't want to appear to show off, either.

    1. sdelsolray


      There's nothing wrong with letting folks know that you prefer money instead of non-monetary gifts for Christmas, or any other holiday where gifts are exchanged or given (e.g., birthday, wedding, summer solstice).  And, there's no need to explain why you prefer money over gifts.

    2. Lilith666


      Thanks for your input.

  7. Isn't it funny that Christians freak out trans people will molest kids if they use the same bathroom, then demonstrate their deep concern for Jesus's precious little ones by preying on them?
  8. I can't find a link, but Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick said on Fox News the shooting is a manifestation of widespread hatred against his fellow Christians and began quoting the bible about Christian persecution. The victims had just been shot that morning, and he went completely off-topic from the reporter's question about the killer's motive. What a nauseatingly arrogant way to turn the spotlight from victims of a mass murder onto himself.
  9. I was raised in the Church and recall being manipulated, one incident being in VBS. The children attending played games, made crafts, listened to Bible stories, and were given snacks and prizes. At the end of every VBS night, I believe, the adult leader asked them if they would like to accept Jesus. In any other organization, this would be considered highly unethical. Would little kids really say no to an adult authority figure to whom their parents had entrusted them, who was supposed to look out for them, who had just played with them and given them goodies, and whom they obviously would not want to disappoint? And they aren't just asked to say a prayer, but to dedicate their lives to the Church following that prayer. It's predatory, MOHO. Christians who do this will insist they are looking out for the kids by trying to save their souls. But these same people are willing to believe that others, including children who have reached the "age of accountability" that could be anywhere from adolescence to four years old, are going to burn in hell for rejecting Jesus, if it means the Christians themselves don't have to face death. They are sacrificing other people's minds and lives while telling them it's love. It's evil.
  10. If it were just that religion makes people happy, I wouldn't hold it against them. But because they try to suck others into their damaging beliefs, and are manipulative, especially toward children who might not know any better, then we have a problem. I don't think there is a genuine Christian in existence who doesn't do this to some extent. It's not just sad that people go back: it's selfish and wrong because Christianity is so inherently controlling.
  11. Starbucks Killed Jesus Again...

    The top one says "good" instead of "God," clearly it's meant as an affront to our lord and savior. Crazy Christian stuff like this is one of those things that used to annoy me, but that now I just see as pitiable, funny at best.
  12. Things Fundies Say On Facebook

    Oh, Christians. You're too cute. "So Pope Gregory III made a holiday to honor all saints and martyrs. He incorporated some of the ancient Celtic traditions of the time which many Christians did to get non Christians to learn about Christian holidays and traditions. This became Halloween. Any holiday can be twisted into something inappropriate if you let it. Myself and my kids dressed in funny costumes and knocked on doors of family and friends for treats. Never did it cross our minds to worship satan or any other such nonsense. We don't need "an alternative ". It's a Christian holiday. If someone else is celebrating it inappropriately, that's not my problem. I'm not."
  13. One Weird Trick

    Oh I know. I was referring to ANTIFA's claim that unprovoked violence against "Nazis" is just self-defense because the so-called Nazis and anything associated with them (the anthem, for instance I'm sure) are inherently a threat.
  14. One Weird Trick

    That would probably just cause the cars and the cops to be set on fire in self-defense.
  15. Carrie DeKlyen chose to have her baby instead of chemotherapy for cancer, and died September 9, three days after giving birth prematurely. The baby died this past Wednesday. DeKlyen left her husband with their five other children. And, drum roll... the parents made this decision because of their Christian beliefs. I probably don't need to explain why this is so angering. Of course, the choice to prioritize her baby over herself was DeKlyen's right. But "rights" are not necessarily moral choices; this isn't about her legal entitlement to make the choice that she did, so much as that she ended her own life and her own possible future for a life that hadn't yet even begun. I am one of those who believe that a live person with conscious thoughts, emotions, and a personality is more important than a potential person. And it's not only about Carrie, as if I needed more reason to post this: it's that her five living children lost their mother and that her husband lost his wife. I may not have written this at all if it weren't for the kicker that DeKlyen's decision was religiously based. Free choice, even an immoral one, is one thing: a choice influenced or decided by a myth is something else altogether. I no longer see Christianity as the major social threat that I used to do, but every once in a while, something like this reminds me that even though it may not impact society collectively, Christianity still has the power to hurt the people who cling to it. (I posted this in Totally off Topic instead of Rants and Replies due to the political nature of abortion.)