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  1. I remember the saccharine Matt Redman-type stuff we had to sing. It did get uncomfortable, the over the top syrupiness and vaguely sexual lyrics. Even though we were supposed to "enjoy" worshipping god this was not encouraged in practice. Dancing to upbeat songs was frowned upon. I got the feeling we could never get it right, if we were too serious we weren't in touch with god but having fun was irreverent.
  2. I take Christians' claims that they would be evil without god with many grains of salt. They tend to have this persistent self-abasing belief because the bible tells them so. They may claim it, but people say things without understanding what they really would do because they have never thought outside what the bible says. That claim probably shows a lack of self-knowledge.
  3. Huh. I've run into plenty of unsavory people; maybe I'll read this.
  4. Your letter is powerful, TS.
  5. I found a quiz about whether suggestive phrases are intentionally sexual, or are from Christian worship songs. Have fun https://www.google.com/amp/s/homeschoolersanonymous.org/2014/04/12/50-shades-of-grey-or-contemporary-christian-music-lyrics-a-quiz/amp/
  6. I took on overtime so I had to bring three ham sandwiches, because I get a second lunch. I am eating my last sandwich. Pawn Stars is on the television. There is a guy trying to sell kewpie dolls.
  7. I agree with those who have suggested you see your doctor about this. You don't know what the voices might tell you. This is concerning.
  8. Ex-C is for everyone who wants to come here, and will abide by site rules. If you have a problem, try talking to the person directly with the intent of peacefully resolving the issue, or ask a mod to intervene. Otherwise, I'd suggest picking your battles. Everyone has a different experience, and some take longer to reach their destination: often years, or even decades. All of us here were Christian at one point. It helps to extend the patience to others that we likely received from non-Christians in our own religious stage, even if we didn't know it.
  9. At my grandfather's funeral the minister reminded us repeatedly that anyone who was not "saved" would go to hell. My grandfather was Christian, but it made me so angry that anyone would think it's appropriate to guilt people into joining a religion, especially at a time like that, and cause further pain to those attending who were Christians.
  10. Is it legal for an employer to penalize a worker for leaving early due to illness, even after the worker provides requested documentation?

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    2. Lilith666


      Yep, this company doesn't have a good reputation.

    3. LogicalFallacy


      Sounds like the employers were arseholes. It would not be legal in NZ. If the regulations state that no penalisation is to be given in proven circumstances where you are, and the employer still does then that's illegal.

    4. Akheia


      Hi! Just saw this... And yes, it is perfectly legal. Many states in the US are "at-will" employers, which means that an employee can literally be fired for any reason at all--even for no reason at all. Only a few situations are protected, and even then only in certain ways (usually requiring accommodation, like in the case of very religious employees who need certain days off). Particularly for low-wage jobs, workers get penalized for missing work on an occurrence-type system that gives workers a certain amount of leeway for missing work and then slams them hard for going over that limit. For example, if a worker is skating on the edge of that leeway and then gets strep throat, they may discover themselves fired even though strep throat is obviously a serious medical emergency.


      I'd consult HR, but bear in mind that in the States, very few employers care how valid the absence is or care about doctors' notes. I'd also suggest looking into FMLA protection; it can be retroactively applied to cover longer absences (I used it when I got shingles some years back and my husband's used it to cover a week lost to strep throat.). The problem is that FMLA only applies to certain kinds of employees and has certain requirements that may make it impossible to gain its protections. Hope you're doing okay...

  11. I saw this sign that said "Walk by faith and not by sight." Okay, next time I cross the road I'll shut my eyes and have faith there isn't a car coming.
  12. There wasn't a biblical passage that finally did it; it was a Christian book that stated Jesus made his "sacrifice" ultimately for his glory, rather than for saving humanity. That added up when I thought about God's arrogant and entitled attitude, going on so much about demanding worship from people. And that brought it all crashing down for me, because then what was the point of believing in him? The closest thing to my special passage would be Paul's comments in Ephesians on marriage. No matter how much anyone told me that husbands were to protect their wives and keeping the marriage afloat didn't all fall to women (missing the point and setting up a straw man too), I couldn't believe that telling them to be subservient was right. Husbands not being allowed to beat their wives didn't change that all of it, the command to protect as well as submit, was extremely condescending and infantilizing. This passage sent me on the path to de-conversion.
  13. Welcome to Ex-C. Sorry you're going through this. Anger at Christianity and zeal to de-convert people are pretty common for awhile after you leave; I was in that state for three or four years afterward. Still, I agree with the suggestions of backing off the crusading until your wife seems more receptive. If you haven't gotten anywhere so far by sparring with her, you probably won't by continuing to hammer your point. Besides, by forcefully putting down Jesus/Rachel's beliefs, you're setting yourself up as the bad guy. Try being compassionate and understanding without compromising your own beliefs, show her you're on her side. As well as just being kind, it may help break down her idea of non-Christians as angry and hostile toward Christians, if she buys into that, instead of reinforcing it. I can't guarantee that she will become more willing to listen, but it might be a start. I'm so glad you realize you're not obligated to continue believing the same things your whole life. Only you are in charge of your mind, not Jesus, not your wife, not anybody or anything else. You'll probably end up compromising on how to raise the kids, but opposite to the Christian demand that its followers always maintain a childish trust in whatever they're told and lifelong devotion to Jesus, there's a great deal of freedom in the knowledge that you can change your opinions and priorities.
  14. The Jesus Christmas is essentially a celebration of death and torture and forcibly impregnating teenagers, dressed up in "Christ's love." It's about anything but. There may not be a "real" meaning of the holiday as far as world-saving historical events go, but it doesn't hurt to have a reminder to be kind and generous to each other. That's real enough for me. As far as carols go, I do miss believing in the lyrics but I don't miss feeling like I should be thinking about Jesus every time I was having fun eating food and watching Christmas movies instead. Renouncing Christianity has its benefits as well as sacrifices.
  15. Haven't had any of those in a while, but if I did I'd probably say nicely, "thanks, but I'm not interested," and shut the door even if they kept talking. (And keep it shut once I had.) They may look hurt, but that's their problem and remember Christians are great at manipulation. You didn't ask them to show up and they are bothering you at your home. I had a roommate who said sending them away was rude, but what's really rude is showing up at your house and telling you their beliefs are better than yours.
  16. Asking for charity donations (no particular) instead of Xmas gifts: nice or tacky? I have stuff already and don't need more, which would just be more to carry when I move out. But I don't want to appear to show off, either.

    1. sdelsolray


      There's nothing wrong with letting folks know that you prefer money instead of non-monetary gifts for Christmas, or any other holiday where gifts are exchanged or given (e.g., birthday, wedding, summer solstice).  And, there's no need to explain why you prefer money over gifts.

    2. Lilith666


      Thanks for your input.

  17. Isn't it funny that Christians freak out trans people will molest kids if they use the same bathroom, then demonstrate their deep concern for Jesus's precious little ones by preying on them?
  18. I was raised in the Church and recall being manipulated, one incident being in VBS. The children attending played games, made crafts, listened to Bible stories, and were given snacks and prizes. At the end of every VBS night, I believe, the adult leader asked them if they would like to accept Jesus. In any other organization, this would be considered highly unethical. Would little kids really say no to an adult authority figure to whom their parents had entrusted them, who was supposed to look out for them, who had just played with them and given them goodies, and whom they obviously would not want to disappoint? And they aren't just asked to say a prayer, but to dedicate their lives to the Church following that prayer. It's predatory, MOHO. Christians who do this will insist they are looking out for the kids by trying to save their souls. But these same people are willing to believe that others, including children who have reached the "age of accountability" that could be anywhere from adolescence to four years old, are going to burn in hell for rejecting Jesus, if it means the Christians themselves don't have to face death. They are sacrificing other people's minds and lives while telling them it's love. It's evil.
  19. If it were just that religion makes people happy, I wouldn't hold it against them. But because they try to suck others into their damaging beliefs, and are manipulative, especially toward children who might not know any better, then we have a problem. I don't think there is a genuine Christian in existence who doesn't do this to some extent. It's not just sad that people go back: it's selfish and wrong because Christianity is so inherently controlling.
  20. The top one says "good" instead of "God," clearly it's meant as an affront to our lord and savior. Crazy Christian stuff like this is one of those things that used to annoy me, but that now I just see as pitiable, funny at best.
  21. Oh, Christians. You're too cute. "So Pope Gregory III made a holiday to honor all saints and martyrs. He incorporated some of the ancient Celtic traditions of the time which many Christians did to get non Christians to learn about Christian holidays and traditions. This became Halloween. Any holiday can be twisted into something inappropriate if you let it. Myself and my kids dressed in funny costumes and knocked on doors of family and friends for treats. Never did it cross our minds to worship satan or any other such nonsense. We don't need "an alternative ". It's a Christian holiday. If someone else is celebrating it inappropriately, that's not my problem. I'm not."
  22. Oh I know. I was referring to ANTIFA's claim that unprovoked violence against "Nazis" is just self-defense because the so-called Nazis and anything associated with them (the anthem, for instance I'm sure) are inherently a threat.
  23. That would probably just cause the cars and the cops to be set on fire in self-defense.
  24. Hmm, let's see. When I was little, about first grade, I decided to refuse to believe in dinosaurs because they and humans couldn't have existed at the same time in the Garden of Eden. I also thought people had sex by lying flat on their backs and then magically orgasming (got this from taking "so-and-so 'lay' with his wife" in the OT literally). But anyway. Guess those don't count. People with depression didn't trust god enough, god made people gay as a punishment for rebelling against him - my parents probably got that one from Romans 1:28 - unbelievers must be argued with whenever possible, probably other things I don't care to remember.
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