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  1. I’m sorry, what did he say that is causing such a ruckus? I haven’t been watching or reading much news lately.
  2. I think you’re underestimating Christians ability to rationalize God’s lack of action when there is a crisis. Christian are experts when it comes to making excuses for God’s indifference when disaster strikes.
  3. I listened to the entire segment. Ehrman basically confirms the Bible is man made theology that is filled with contradictions, inconsistencies , and folklore. It consist of a lot of different cultures beliefs that were incorporated into Christianity, and these beliefs have changed and evolved over time, and continue to do so. I didn’t really learn anything new, but it’s definitely worth listening too for those that are still questioning.
  4. There is no shortage of Gods to believe in. Humans have been creating gods and religions for as long as humans have existed. Gods were apparently originally created as a way of explaining the unexplainable awesome power of storms, volcanoes, lightening, etc. Humans are also the only species that realize they are mortal. Humans know we all will eventually die and that concerns us. So Humans invented the concept of an afterlife as a way of convincing ourselves that death isn’t the end. So we try to convince ourselves that something more exists beyond the grave, and that lead humans to create God and a supernatural paradise where death, pain, and suffering doesn’t exist.
  5. There is no logical, rational, or scientific reason to believe that such a thing as a supernatural realm or supernatural entities exist. There is an abundance of historical evidence that confirms the Bible was written by humans, not by any supernatural deities. These biblical stories are therefore correctly classified as theological myths. There is no historical evidence that either Jesus or Paul were real people. It is more likely their were literary characters that only existed in fictional stories. Therefore, I can find no reason to believe there is an invisible little old man, that lives up in the sky, that is watching over humanity and keeping a permanent record of everything every person on earth does, says, and thinks. Faith is required to be a Christian because the teachings, beliefs, and traditions are absurd and unbelievable. That is why religion requires intense indoctrination to believe their idiotic and ridiculous claims.
  6. Thank you. Until it became real, this sort of thing was Hollywood science fiction. The thing that could never really happen because of our advancements in medicine and technology. Looks like we aren’t as smart as we thought.
  7. Grocery Stores & Costco, in my area, are offering seniors only the first hour of shopping. They are also placing limits on specific items that tend to be the target for those that want to horde. Local government has ordered citizens to shelter in place, and most people are abiding by that. Our son and daughter are doing our grocery shopping for us due to our age and vulnerability to the virus. We haven’t encountered any serious problems obtaining pretty much everything on our grocery list. As others have noted, all anyone can do is use common sense and do the best you can under the circumstances.
  8. The listed reasons why believers don’t understand why there are those that don’t believe and aren’t religious can be reversed and apply to those that aren’t believers. We also wonder why “they” don’t get it and we use arguments and techniques similar to their’s as evidence to prove Deities and the a supernatural realm doesn’t exist. It seems to me that the fallacy of religion is just one of those things that people have to figure out on their own.
  9. Taking the Lord’s Supper could be like playing Russian Roulette, especially for those 1 cup groups. Everyone drinking from the same cup. They will definitely need a lot of prayer.
  10. The burden of proof is customarily placed on the party making an assertion. Believers tend to accept apologist arguments as “proof” while rejecting science, history, cosmology, logic, and reason as evidence because they are believed to have human origins. Whereas, believers are convinced the Bible has Devine origins. This deep divide makes debating religion pointless because there is no common ground or mutually acceptable authority.
  11. EMT might not be the best career choice for you. My son has been a fireman/paramedic for 23 years. He is eagerly looking to retire in 2 years. The things you will see and have to deal with will weigh heavily on your mind. Pulling a dead baby out of a wrecked car is not something you will ever get out of your mind. Responding to suicides is difficult. Pulling charred bodies out of a home that burned down is the kind of stuff you never forget. The job takes a heavy toll on first responders, their families, and their marriages.
  12. But girls can squat and pee. Guys can too but it’s more difficult to aim.
  13. Believers don’t read the Bible in the context and culture that it was written in. The Bible was written in the contextual norms of the cultures that produced those writings. Those were patriarchal cultures that viewed women as property to be bought, sold, and used to pleasure men. Their primary purpose was to procreate. Even then boys were desired more than girls. Read in the context of the culture that produced those writings and stories they make sense, but believers don’t do that.
  14. I’ve been active over at Ex-Church of Christ Support Board for several years now. I’m frankly amazed the mods and administrator haven’t band or blocked me. I left the Church of Christ in 2005 and Christianity altogether in 2012. I’ve been active over at Ex-Church of Christ since 2005. I definitely went through my troll stage, and they were very tolerant of me. I think I’m one of the few atheists over there now. I’ve definitely put an emphasis on educating them in regards to the historical evidence as to the origins and evolution of the Bible and the Christian faith. I’ve convinced a few of them that the Bible and the Christian faith are made made, but they don’t care. The social element is their draw now, and many of them have affiliated with some liberal denomination or version of Christianity. That site has two boards. I don’t venture into the fundy board. I did for awhile but that proved to be a pointless exercise. The liberal side is tolerant and accepting of different ideas and religions. My point being not all Christian sites are closed minded and intolerant. I try to be tolerant of Christians when they come here. They’ve been brainwashed so they don’t know any better. They think God sent them here to seek out some lost sheep. They’re just trying to get some brownie points built up for the Day of Final Judgement. They are acting out of fear. And they fear their imaginary God more than us.
  15. I don’t want this site to be like a Christian fundy site that censors speech they don’t agree with. There isn’t anything a Christian could posts here that we haven’t heard and dealt with. Our rejection of religion is based on facts, evidence, history, science, logic, and reason. I can’t imagine anything a Christian could possibly posts that would cause us to doubt our reasons for leaving Christianity. Christians, on the other hand, might possibly encounter information that could possibly encourage them to investigate their “beliefs” more deeply and hopefully more objectively. Personally, I don’t care whether they are nice or not when they challenge our reasons for leaving religion. I’m a big boy, I don’t take insults personally or even seriously.
  16. It is common for a company or institution to buy out another entity. It is also common for such transactions to be about the assets of the entity being purchased. Employees, of purchased entities, are not always viewed as assets. The purpose of such acquisitions is to make the surviving entity larger and more profitable. Termination of the purchased entities employees is a common practice. Many religious based entities require their employees to not only be Christians but also to be affiliated with a specific denomination or version of a specific religion. And the law says all of that is okay.
  17. As long as they are a private school with private funding, it’s their right to hire whoever they want and to establish their criteria for employment. Now if the want to place a copy of the 10 Commandments in a public school, or require all teachers in a public school to be Christians, that’s an entirely different issue.
  18. I see businesses note, in their advertisements, that they are owned and operated by Christians. They realize many Christians prefer to do business with other Christians because, in their mind, they are more honest and trustworthy. That doesn’t mean they are, of course, or that they are actually competent. Cults prefer to do business with other cult members.
  19. I see a distinct difference between confrontation and education. A common Christian technique, as found in the Bible, is planting seeds as Tsarhoggus9 and others have noted. That only works if the prospect is receptive though. When confronting a Christian putting the focus on why I’m an atheists, rather than questioning why they are Christian, has a much better chance of engaging them in a conversation. That isn’t likely to convert them, but planing seeds for why you aren’t a Christian is the purpose of the encounter. Those seeds may or may not produce fruit, but the intent is to give them another perspective to think about and maybe consider. I agree that attempting to out and out convert them to atheism is a waste of time and energy
  20. I’m 74 my wife is 76. I’m in good health but she is having some issues. At our age death becomes a certainty rather than an abstract reality. Like you Weezer returning to religion isn’t an option for me either. There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that both Heaven and Hell are myths created by ancient superstitious cultures. I am also convinced, after much study and research, that Jesus is a mythical character in a fictional story. Christianity is just one of many ancient man made religions. Death is simply the end of life. There isn’t anything else.
  21. florduh read your post. I think, like me, he might see your reasons for taking a step back from your faith as having more to do with you not wanting to live the Christian life than anything having to do with any specific theology or the existence of a God. That is the reason some folks leave their faith, but for most of us we’ve left because it just isn’t true. We’re more focused on the science, physics, cosmology, and historical realities that provide proof and evidence that God only exist in the minds of believers. Your posts suggest to me that your reasons have more to do with you not wanting to follow the traditional laws, rules, and commands that are commonly associated with the more conservative versions of Christianity. Switching to a liberal version of Christianity might be more in line with what it appears you’re looking for.
  22. This impeachment, IMO, is for show only. This is about rallying the Dems base and converting some open minded Republicans & Independents to vote for the Democratic candidate in the next election. I believe that because Pelosi knows the votes are not there in the Senate to convict. No sensible prosecutor would bring charges against a suspect knowing he didn’t have the evidence to convict. In Trumps case the evidence is there but the Jury is so bias they aren’t going to convict and everyone knows that. This impeachment is a political tactic designed to strengthen the Dems in the upcoming Presidential election. The Republicans tried that with Clinton and it blew up in their face. The Dems are betting that won’t happen to them. It will be interesting to see if they’re right.
  23. Well, duh. Because the Bible instructs believers to go into the whole world and tell them the good news, and if they don’t their God of Love will burn them alive in Hell forever. Better to freeze now than burn later. ‘
  24. How about Festivus for the rest of us? Put up your Festivus Pole and celebrate.
  25. The journey out of religion is often similar, but at the same time also different, for all of us. Welcome to the board. It is comforting to be with likeminded folks that understand the trials and tribulations encountered on the road out of religion. Dr. Robert M. Price is a Biblical author and scholar that I think you might enjoy reading. He has written a lot of books and they are all excellent.
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