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Geezer

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  1. I believe the number of wounded and killed in mass shootings pale in comparison to the number of people that are killed or wounded daily across America. Gangs would seem to be the primary offenders. Gang violence is nationwide and out of control. It is now even a problem in small rural towns. Shootings and fatalities are a common daily occurrence in the area where I live.

     

    Gangs need to be treated like organized crime, because that’s essentially what they are. 

     

     


  2. Hi, I was a Christian for 47 years before I figured out it was all B.S. I began having doubts about 20 years ago. I quit pretending I still believed about 11 years ago but didn’t pull the plug officially until 2012. 

     

    Welcome aboard, you are among likeminded folks here. 

     

     

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  3. I enjoy reading the thoughts, perspectives, & experiences from those outside the U.S. I value our international members. They add valuable insight to the international view of Christianity and the issues & problems it presents in other countries.

     

    International posters don’t under estimate your value to this site. 

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  4. 1 hour ago, UniversalFriendliness said:

    One is hard-pressed to find a religious tradition that recommends masturbation. Some traditions are against it outright, while others will not comment directly but suggest that one ought to be cautious about observing the attractiveness of people other than one's own spouse. What these traditions have in common is the idea that the self-pleasuring habit can contribute to a solipsistic state of mind from which it is more difficult to develop one's talents and relationships. It may be an example of how religions can express a true idea even if we don't want the entire philosophy or worldview.

     

    Religion is pretty much against anything that is pleasurable. Priest are apparently excluded though.:D If religion can convince their adherents to deny themselves pleasure, then they know they own you and can make you do just about anything they want.


  5. Christianity (fundamentalism) flourishes in places where ignorance & superstition is rampant. That makes third world countries easy targets for missionaries.

     

    However, many books have been written attempting to explain why highly educated people make important decisions based on emotion rather than evidence, logic, and reason. It’s a human tendency that is difficult to explain but one that keeps religion alive and needed in many peoples lives. 

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  6. I live in the general vicinity of Memphis TN. There has been 33 shooting on the interstate loop around the city this year, with several fatalities. There is a murder, and usually multiple murders & shootings, every single day. It’s almost like living in a war zone, and this is going on all over the country. 

     

    This stuff didn’t happen when I was a kid growing up in N/W Indiana. My sister informs me the same thing is happening in the city I grew up in. Much of it can be traced back to gang violence and these gangs are now virtually in every community of any size all over the country. Our constitutional rights make it virtually impossible to stop the violence. 

     

    The Southside of Chicago is a virtual war zone and has been for many years, and there appears to be no way to stop the violence and senseless killing. And like a disease it has spread all over the country and it seems there is no cure for it.    

     

    Police tactics that work work are often declared unconstitutional. We have become victims of our Constitution and it’s guaranteed freedoms. What makes us free is also what is killing many of our citizens and many of them are kids. 


  7. 13 hours ago, Rickswordfish said:

    Please read the article before responding

     

    You seriously need to stop reading apologetic nonsense and start reading accredited historians. Fear is how religion gets and keeps people. Fear is their weapon of choice and what allows them to survive. 

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  8. The alternative is to die at the hands of a madman with no way of defending myself. I’d rather die with a gun in my hand, trying to stop a madman, than die unarmed and defenseless at the hands of a lunatic.

     

    The chances of surviving a random shooter is virtually zero if you are not armed. I’d prefer to take my chances being armed even if the odds are low, that’s still better than being executed. 

     

    Everyone has to decide that for themselves. 


  9. Last week a Walmart about 20 minutes from me had a mass shooting. There were 2 fatalities and 1 responding office was shot. His vest saved his life. The shooter was killed by police.

     

    Now another mass shooting at another Walmart with multiple casualties and fatalities in El Paso Texas. I recently attended the World Golf Championship in Memphis. Like all major sporting events every person was checked by security, no handbags were allowed, everyone was checked with metal detectors.

     

    Are we going to have to do something like that to enter shopping malls and large department stores in the future?  I have a handgun carry permit, but I don’t carry it, but I think I’m going to rethink that.


  10. I think most of us here are aware of the Clergy Project. Christians are blissfully unaware of how many Preachers are faking it, because they need a paycheck. Leaving the ministry is difficult. We know the consequences of leaving religion, and those consequences are even worse for those in the ministry.

     

    A degree in theology doesn’t transfer to the secular world very well, therefore finding a job that pays enough to support a family is difficult. The alternative is to stay in the pulpit and fake it. Those that can’t do that suffer the consequences and essentially have to start their life over.

     

    I’m sure they don’t tell you about the risks associated with being a minister in seminary for those that later discover they aren’t suited for preaching the word.

     

     

     

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  11. 26 minutes ago, Myrkhoos said:

    He had a debate with dr Price, and he has a book about that issue.  The claim dr Ehrman posits, from what I gather, is that, as ancient characters are concerned , he is one of the most documented. Please do say where he says he would destroy anyone s career. 

     

    I highly doubt that dr Ehrman, which gave up his religion in his search for truth, would deny it for wordly concerns. And just because Price is not part of the community does not mean he is more honest. A lot of conspiracy theorists and total wack jobs are outside the main community, that does not mean they are right, not by a longshot, or more honest. He is not THAT well respected, as his views contradict most of his colleagues.  That does mean I think Ehrman is right on every matter, quite the contrary, but here, yes. And he is a man which stepped off the group think of a lot more tight community than scholars, I mean he is one of THE FEW atheist/agnostic bible scholars. He would have a large vested interest in denying Jesus existed. Plus he stated that truth claims about ancient history differ from truth claims from other branches of study. 

     

    And admitting Jesus never existed would not cause a financial calamity for dr Ehrman, not one bit. He is a New Testament scholar and early Christian historian. Even if Jesus never existed, the New testament exists and is a worthy study field, and early christianity existed as well. How would it affect him? The fact that he would have to admit he was wrong? As I said, he went to fundamentalist preacher to agnostic proffesor of NT. AND, he saud every time he writes and researches a book, he learns a lot and changes his views. He seems to be accustomed to admitting he was wrong.

     

    Price s reputation, however, rests almost solely with the idea that Jesus never existed. He is much more tied, personally and professionaly to his thesis than is Ehrman. Ehrman s expertise spans a lot more areas. none of which would lose that much. 

     

    It seems to me that, if someone has a lot riding on this idea, it is Price, not Ehrman. This how I see it. 

     

    There is no absolute proof that Jesus did or did not exist, so everyone Is left to draw their own conclusions. I’m convinced, for a number of reasons, that Jesus was a fictional character and the gospel is a fictional story. You have a different perspective. So be it.

     

    I would recommend Dr.Richard Carrier’s YouTube video, The Gospel According to Dr Richard Carried, as another scholars perspective for why the gospels and Jesus are likely fictional. 


  12. 6 hours ago, Myrkhoos said:

    I would disagree on that point, based, I confess, mainly on the thoughts of dr Ehrman. I reccomed reading his books. I highly, highly doubt they were JUST literary figures. But anyway, you said something that is mostly obvious, that religions, even when they claim supernatural inspiration, are actually made , as in written preached by people. I disagree that the Bible is just a collection of myths, as there a lot of things in there which have at least some historical reality, as in the Jews are real, the Romans were real, etc. It seems to be more of a blend of reality and , dare I say, fantasy, intentional or not. I do not know about the fantasy part, but as I said there are things which can be verified.  But that is how we all live, with this blend.  I mean Hogwarts never existed, Jerusalem did.  I think it is real danger in going from innerant word of God to it is all fiction. They seem to me both extremes.

     

    BUT, Having been around the Orthodox , there is no thing as the Orthodox accept the Bible as flawed. Some people, maybe do that, but what they mainly do is 1. Place Scripture in the larger framework of The Tradition, understood as the direct transmission of the grace of the Holy Spirit from jesus, to the apostles, to their disciples until this day, and 2. Highly intricate and allegorical interpretations. There are interpretations that explain away all discrepancies between the Gospels, the Gospels and modern Church life, and the such. Plus, I would say their emphasis is not so much on the Bible, and NT, but on the recognised Holy Father s interpretation, and the Ecumenical Synods of the first thousand years and more. That it is how it seems to me. A little more in the line of how tribal shamans transmitted knowledge in the absence of writing. When writing appeared, is was just an instrument, it did not replace the original setting. It added and maybe modified it a bit.

     

    I enjoy Ehrman’s books but he is very much part of the academic community and clearly part of the “Group Think” that goes with that.  He has made it publicly clear that he would destroy the academic career of any Professor that believed and taught that Jesus was a literary character, even though he admits there is no evidence for a historical Jesus.

     

    The authors I referenced are not part of that community, so I believe they are more honest. Price is a Professor but is so respected he’s immune to Ehrman’s threats.

     

    Jesus is a money making business so the Biblical Jesus has to protected because admitting He never existed would cause a financial calamity. Everyone is obviously free to believe whatever they want, but no one claims they have ever found a historical Jesus.

     

     

     


  13. I don’t have a problem with Pantheism, but I wouldn’t classify it as a religion. To me it’s more like a philosophical way of looking at the universe, creation, and the laws of science, nature, physics and math.  

     

     


  14. B.O. never bothered me because I didn’t take him seriously. Some of his posts were funny and some were obviously just B.O. blowing off steam and being B.O. I’ve never encountered any poster on this site that has been a problem for me personally. Lots of good folks here and some exceptionally smart ones too. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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