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Geezer

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  1. I can recommend the book, “The Fabricated Paul” by Hermann Detering. The author presents evidence that Paul was a literary character not a real person.
  2. I’m up to date on all the episodes. Good stuff. I love to hear about the hypocrisy that is common in all versions of Christianity. Hypocrisy and legalism seem to go hand in hand. And the fundamentalist remedy for that is to be even more legalistic. Go figure.
  3. You were indoctrinate, just like the rest of us. Indoctrinated minds do not process information rationally. Indoctrinated minds process information in the way they have been trained to process it. So, don’t be so hard on yourself. You were smart enough to figure out what was happening and you overcame it. That was a major accomplishment. Congrats.
  4. I previously noted that we lost our DIL to cancer this past June. She fought it for 10.5 years before losing her battle. In 2012 she made out her bucket list. She wanted to travel all over the country before she died. My son is a fireman and is able to get a lot of time off. My son bought a motor home and for the next 6 years they traveled all over the country NSE&W. My son made sure her bucket list was completed or nearly so. Their last trip was in Sept of 2017. She became extremely ill during that trip & never really recovered before she passed away. She was bedridden after that. When my son bought the motor home he traded his Harley for 97 Jeep Wrangler. He pulled the Jeep behind the motor home so they’d have transportation when they stopped for a few days on their travels. The Jeep is an off color of blue that looks a little purple.My DIL named the Jeep. Blurple. My wife noticed on Facebook that our son had just bought a new 4 door fully loaded Jeep. I sent him a text and asked if he’d traded blurple. He said no that he was going to sell blurple. I told him I wanted to buy it and asked how much he wanted. It’s a 1997 Wrangler in great shape with only 115,000 miles on it. He text me that he’d give me the friends and family price. I inquired what that might be and noted I really wanted to keep blurple in the family to remember and honor our DIL. He text me back that if I wanted blurple to come and get it. I tried to pay him but he wouldn’t take any money. My daughter called soon afterwards and told her brother she wanted to buy blurple. My son told her that dad had beat her by a couple of hours. She was not happy and tried to negotiate a deal with me. So, I got plurple and spent 2 days cleaning it up inside and out. Then I gave it a good wax job. I’ve always wanted a Jeep Wrangler but I’ve been too practical, and too poor, to buy something as impractical as a Jeep Wrangler. I called my Grandson, my son’s son. He’s a GM Mechanic for a local dealer. I told him I wanted plurple tricked out, customized to the hilt. I told him that I wanted him to turn plurple into a very cool 1979 Jeep Wrangler. Needless to say he was ecstatic. Then he asked what his budget would be I told him he didn’t have one. His one word reply was ALLRIGHT! He’s changing all the exterior lights to LED’s, New LED Fog Lights, and a LED Light Bar Above the Windshield so far. Some interior work too. My son already put chrome rims and new tires on it a year or so ago. The paint is good so no need to repaint it, and we don’t want to change the color. New outside mirrors too. I assume this will be a continuous work in progress. My son took good care of blurple so it’s mechanicslly sound. He also put a high end Pioneer sound system in it too. Blurple’s off road days days are over for now. This will be a top off driving on paved roads just for fun for blurple’s foreseeable future. My daughter has made it know she is next in line for blurple when I’m done with it, which will be when I’m dead or incapacitated. It feels pretty great to do something so impractical just for the fun of it. I just don’t do things like that; this is a new experience for me and so far I have no regrets. I am looking forward to summer.
  5. Geezer

    Finding Hope

    Hiding in plain sight.
  6. Least we forget how we viewed the world when we were Christians. Our Christian world revolved around Jesus, God, and Paul. They were the truth, everything else was of Satan. Atheists were agents of the Devil and they spewed nothing from their mouths but lies, falsehoods, and immorally. The physical world was Evil and ruled by Satan, the master of lies and deceit, and his Demons. The Spiritual world, ruled by God and his angels, was our promised home, but only if we remained faithful. The real truth terrifies Christians so they are not about to listen to anything we have to day. We can provide all the evidence in the world, and thousands of testimonies that relate the horors of religion, but it will fall on the deaf ears of Christians because they fear us, because they believe we are agents of Satan Himself. Make no mistake about it William’s goal is to bring some lost sheep back into the fold. He isn’t here to learn anything, because he’s on a mission.
  7. Geezer

    Finding Hope

    Yep, you speak for many on this site. Many of us have been there and done that.
  8. Just throwing my $.02 cent into the pot. Religion is based on emotion not intellect. And emotion has proven to be far more powerful than education for many people. Religion is all about “beliefs” aka faith, not evidence, science, logic, or reason. Religion teaches belief without evidence is a desirable virtue, even though Thomas required proof. Anytime people are told to take anything on faith, rather than evidence, that should send up red flags.
  9. Geezer

    Finding Hope

    Welcome Bug. I know you will find this site helpful and encouraging as you journey out of your religious indoctrination into true freedom.
  10. When people buy into the idea the Bible is literally true and historically accurate, they willingly relinquish their brain to the church and become obedient mind numbed slaves. They become part of the cult and are soon fluent in Christian speak. The church and the Bible becomes their master and they lose track of reality.
  11. I read a couple of pages from the link and I honestly don’t see the point of engaging Christians about theological issues. I know what they are going to say and they know what I’m going to say. Even if the conversation can be kept civil and respectful nothing of substance is going to be accomplished by either party. The reality is that they don’t hear a word that we are saying, and we aren’t listening to them either. Until a believer developes doubt, on their own, they have no interest in why we left the faith. And the reverse is also true. Unless we have some sort of religious epiphany we aren’t interested in what they have to say either. An atheists and a Christian discussing theology is a total waste of time and effort. I’ve been down that road too many times to waste another trek knowing that road leads nowhere.
  12. Let us not forget there are some seriously shitty Christians out there too. Wife beaters, child abusers, believers with serious narcissist personality disorders & OCD issues. In other words, every group has some bad apples.
  13. Christian forums typically censor posts and they usually ban problem posters too. That shouldn’t surprise anyone. They carefully control content so the indoctrination process isn’t disturbed with problematic questions or faith challenging evidence.
  14. I see no purpose in debates. I’ve never heard of a debate changing anyone’s mind. Debates tend to enforce what people already believe and both sides always seem to think their side won. The Church of Christ loved to debate representatives from denominations. And they always believed they won those debates, mostly because they only heard what they wanted to hear.
  15. Christians seem to have a difficult time relating to people outside their religious environment. Their environment demands likemindedness and obedience. When they venture out into the real world where their beliefs are challenged, or worse ridiculed, they don’t seem to know how to handle that. That, and the fact many of them consider non-believers to be immoral and evil, and that puts them on edge and makes them defensive. There are two distinctive worlds on our planet. One is the reality of the secular world as it actually exist and the other one is the religious world where gods, angels, and demons exist. Those two worlds are incompatible.
  16. I thought this was pretty much common knowledge. Historians know the Israelites were originally Canaanites, so it would be logical for them to adopt a Canaanite god as their one true god. Jews, at least those in academia, are aware they were originally Canaanites.
  17. Geezer

    Maybe Atheist

    Welcome back Mandy. I truly believe you will find this site helpful. All of our stories seem to have similarities, so we understand how difficult it is to get all that indoctrination out of our heads. Our journeys are often long and difficult, especially if we were associated with some form of Christian fundamentalism.
  18. Welcome, and I’m sure you will find this site helpful in your journey.
  19. It seems Jesus once invincible power and influence isn’t what it once was. And it appears Jesus is slowly becoming less and less relevant in politics.
  20. Trump isn’t religious and that would seem to be obvious to anyone that isn’t worshiping at his alter. Religion is loosing its dominate influence in then U.S., but it’s a slow process. It was just on Jan 1 of this year that grocery stores could start selling liquor and wine on Sundays where I live. And it was only a year ago that grocery stores could sell wine at all. In the Bible Belt any politician that made it public knowledge they were atheists would have little or no chance of being elected to any political office. I don’t see that changing for a very long time into the future.
  21. YouTube has a series on this topic. A guy sitting on a junkie car trys to pick up a beautiful woman. He asked her to get a drink with him and she says no. They talk for a few minutes and he says okay maybe some other time then. He gets off the junkie car and walks over to an expensive high end sports car gets in it and starts the engine. She flashes him a big smile and walks over to the car. After she confirms it is his car she decides she has time to get a drink with him after all. I think the series is called Gold Diggers.
  22. Lots of UK folk here. We have folks from NZ, Australia, Germany, Canada, and the UK here, and other countries too, so pull up a chair and join the party. Christianity is a worldwide problem. Glad you dropped back in for a visit. I am bilingual myself. I both speak and write American Deep South and Midwestern.
  23. You have been missed. So glad to find out you’ve finished your deconversion journey and that you’re happy and healthy. Thanks for the update. I hope you will still drop by occasionally.
  24. Being on either the military or police bomb squad. Deactivating a live bomb.....no thank you. I can’t even imagine why anyone would do that. Hard work made me successful. I tried it once, and decided there had to be a better way to earn a living. So I got an office job in an air conditioned building, with attractive coworkers, and no physical labor required.
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