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Pantophobia last won the day on February 7 2014

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    "Religion has convinced people that there’s an invisible man…living in the sky, who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn’t want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you and he needs money." - George Carlin

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  1. Am currently obsessed with their whole album, but this Broken Bells song is my current obsession: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhBewKu80Mg‎
  2. Not only that, but the points in that vid are so easy to refute. Atheists aren't "offended" by "under God"; however, most of us believe it's unconstitutional. Anthony Flew was approaching philosophical/theological issues from several methodological angles over the long trajectory of his career, but he never converted to any sort of Christianity of any kind, and his notions of "intelligent design" weren't the same thing US yokels are arguing it is. And "standards of morality"? Like denying equal pay, medical coverage, marriage equality and recognition of families- It wasn't "truth and wisdom," it was flawed thinking and loaded language designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator of non-critical thinkers.
  3. Beyond stupid, actually, Kaiser01. That's one of the dumbest collections of misunderstandings I've seen in a while! One of my cousins just posted this to FB. I was tempted to ask "And how's that working out for you?" https://www.facebook.com/ChristianTodayInternational/photos/a.10150979664014916.440987.188340264915/10152352066949916/?type=1&theater
  4. What a coincidence! Cosmos with Neil Degrasse Tyson already gives me orgasms!
  5. Then why did God create* women with an organ whose sole purpose is sexual pleasure and orgasm? *Don't get excited, I'm using the "God created" as hyperbolic. This isn't some slip-up that "proves" I believe God created anything.
  6. We were all so selfish for praying for comfort of spirit, love, help, and reassurance in our darkest times. We should have known that wasn't what we REALLY needed.
  7. I was going to post what Redneck Prof did in response to this: atheism actually brought me the peace, joy, love, and happiness I'd been promised by Christianity and spent 40 years desperate to experience. As a Christian, I never felt the "spark" or any of that stuff they said was supposed to happen. As a child, I assumed it was because I was "doing it wrong," because I was bad and unloveable, a "poor, miserable sinner." The older I got, the more I struggled. "God is love!" right? Then why did the presence of God in my life and heart do little more than make me feel anxious, worthless, and utterly paralyzed with terror? Where was all of the love that I was supposed to feel?! It wasn't coming from God. Or Jesus. Certainly not from his followers here on earth, either. So it must be because I'm really a terrible person, I question too much, I don't have enough faith, I think too much. But then why did God give me an analytical mind and free will if I wasn't supposed to use it? I also advocate not trying to define or label what you are and what you believe right now. It's very hard, after the black-and-white of Christianity. One thing I suggest (as I have to others in various newbie threads) is that you try "not believing" for a limited time, just as a test. If you have to before, pray about it and let God know and ask for forgiveness if you get hit by a truck during this time, etc. Whatever makes you feel safe and protected. Then, for a set period of time -- an hour, an afternoon, a walk around the neighborhood, whatever feels comfortable -- you are going to experiment with "not believing" all of the harmful stuff you're processing. The voices that tell you that your relationship is a "sin" and you have to be "all or nothing" with Jesus, all of it... it no longer exists for this limited period of time. Now. How do you feel? What do you do differently in your life? How do you approach things without that framing belief affecting everything? What changes? The way societies, even Christian ones, have defined relationships has changed so much over time, and in different contexts. If "living together!" and "sex before marriage" is so sinful, why were there concubines? Why did biblical men have a bunch of wives? Why were brothers supposed to lie with their brothers' wives and knock them up? Why could wives just "give" their handmaidens to their husbands? If St. Paul says ALL sexual desire is to be stifled, why does the Church still advocate marriage anyway? Actually, there is NOTHING in the bible that says sex before marriage is "sinful"... it was the "if the wife isn't a virgin" that was a problem, because of property laws, because she was her father's chattel to be traded to her husband. We no longer live in a society where fatherhood can't be proven, where all the value a woman has is in her hymen, and where you need to marry at 14 because you will likely die by the time you're 30-40. There is no reason why couples in 2014 SHOULDN'T share homes well before marriage, assess compatibilities, why individuals should not get married at all or have children if they don't want to. We are no longer living in the fucking Bronze Age. Things are different. If you and your partner are truly and honestly in the relationship you want to be together, there's no "sin" at all. Do you know how many Christian marriages I saw amongst classmates and within my family because "living together is a sin!" and a couple of teenagers just wanted to have sex? Yeah, those ALWAYS work out well.
  8. Translation: We need more women to stay in their place. How about: we need fewer binaries, we need more inclusive options.
  9. I'm glad you wrote that, and I'm grateful you posted it here, too. So much of it I can relate to as well. How many of us have begged and begged and begged God for the peace, love and joy he's promised us, only to repeatedly feel nothing. And then there's this: Spot on, friend.
  10. Happy to see you here, DoubtingNate! Don't rush or force your beliefs (or unbeliefs, if that's where you're heading), but take your time. The good news is, it won't be a lonely journey any more.
  11. Everything is bad? Guilt and shame? Over a decade of weird non-Church still-Jesusy limbo trying to sort it out? Crappy people in your life, in the name of love/God/whatever? Feeling terrified and doomed for even one's thoughts? Never experiencing the ecstasies promised by God? Knowing that must be your fault? Oh yeah. You're not alone there. In fact, your phrase "The fear that passes understanding" is a perfect description!
  12. You are definitely not alone in all this, Aiyana! I know it's hard, but if you can, try (I did say "try"!) not to label things now. Give yourself permission to exist without having to define your belief for a set amount of time. "In six months, I'll think about a definition, but for now, I'm just going to soak in this water and get used to the temperature and see how it all feels." There's no rush. It does seem, based on what you've said about your personal life, that a desire to define your beliefs might be a hoped-for element of stability amongst things that feel, mostly, chaotic right now. I hope you're able to build up a good support system as you're sorting things. That includes us here!
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