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  1. JamesG

    Genuine Love

    How about showing us evidence that any of this isn't imaginary? Like say, when did America tell you how to live? America tells the whole world how to live That's a blanket statement if I ever saw one Galien you really don't know enough about American politics or demographics otherwise you wouldn't make such an obviously false statement. Some Americans do but other americans don't and Some Americans fight those that do. We are transitioning to an isolationist position largely because Americans in general are upset with our foreign policies. There is not much support for Ame
  2. You should also check out Universal Unitarian churches not my cup of tea but for those deconverts that still want some religion it is pretty use full in that regard as anything goes
  3. queue the music DUN DUN DUNNNNNN!!!!!! sciwalker is invading your computer screens. He is a force of quantum particles that have assembled to obfuscate the truth of science. The collective quantum particles of the known universe feel that it is in its best interest to keep humanity from becoming intelligent. /puts on tin foil hat plugs ears and screams LALALALALALALALALALA don't try it Florduh he is a troll!!!! run away
  4. JamesG

    Genuine Love

    I really do get where you are coming from with all of this. Trust me I was there at one point
  5. JamesG

    Genuine Love

    I am not going to demean your intelligence but you don't seem to have a strong understanding of the English language. You can be very smart and we would not know it because of your poor use of grammar and misapplying terminology to suit your needs. this is not meant to be offensive
  6. JamesG

    Genuine Love

    that point of tentative agreement is to try and understand another persons point of view hence the temporary nature of it. Its not a negative thing but necessary in the course of these conversations when to opposing sides do not see eye to eye. Had you reached a conclusion I very well likely would have disagreed anyways. I was giving you an opportunity to present your case which you did not do.
  7. Yeah I think that's what I was getting at. That the area would have been very well developed a garden of eden of sorts by the time these oral traditions started. Obviously the genesis accounts are complete BS but it reminds me of the end of mad max and beyond the thunder dome. Myths have beginnings. I am probably not really making sense though haven't really fleshed this thought out.
  8. hmmm my wife believes in ghosts time to experiment MUWHAHAHAHAHAHA 18.9hrz here I come!!!!!!!!
  9. JamesG

    Genuine Love

    So what was this, a canard? not at all. The highlighted red shows that for the sake of argument I am not going to debate that you are using the terminology correctly to see where you are trying to go with all of this. The blue shows that if there is no conclusion to draw upon it is a needless exercise of futility. You could have explained from that point on that you were just trying to establish a parallel but you didn't did you. I feel like you used me as an excuse to spout off your non-sense, I also noted in a follow up post that I was agreeing tentatively which in lay mans terms means
  10. JamesG

    Genuine Love

    "Sure, it all goes somewhere James. We don't, nor does science always get the entire picture at once. The Bible talks about differnent types of love, What I was witnessing with the soldiers could be one type over the other. I didn't ask you to grant me anything, but after enough effort, we determined it was a parallel. Again, this doesn't mean the whole answer would reveal itself because James want's it to. To your discounting of my other examples. Just like the one we just discussed, they are types, potential parallels, correlations. Moses glowing vs dying is similar to Christ b
  11. JamesG

    Genuine Love

    Truthfully James, I don't know that I have a conclusion other than I find it interesting that the methods are the same. I find it interesting regardless of how silly people find it, that Moses was said to glow after being in the presence of a presumed higher energy....God. Many analytical methods can be covered there. I find it interesting that a stick was used to purify the water for the Israelites.....in my mind suggesting celluostic water purification. And didn't the guy that was touting using water to power his car back in the 80's get his idea from the Bible? And, I was actually r
  12. http://www.nbcnews.com/science/embargo-thursday-2pm-early-humans-iran-were-growing-wheat-12-6C10536898 so this article got the ole brain tinkering. Genesis lays it down pretty clear that eden was somewhere in the fertile crescent. If agriculture really took hold 12000 years ago lets say young earthers estimate 6000 years for the origins of Judaism. this puts it at about 6000 years to develop the lands in the area. Could it make sense that genesis is a co-opted story to describe their peoples getting kicked out of the area of the fertile crescent by stronger tribes/civiliazations? j
  13. JamesG

    Genuine Love

    back to my point earlier End3 what is the conclusion you draw upon your parallel that you have conceived?
  14. JamesG

    Genuine Love

    Also Galien if you read the first page the genuine love End3 was talking about is not = to the genuine love you are talking about. He made an ill-fated attempt at comparing the sacrifice soldiers make to the sacrifice of Jesus as evidence for god's "genuine love" which is the subject of the discussion. The title is misleading as to End3 not understanding things is why education was brought up and fought about he tried to insult Bhim by suggesting he pulled a fast one over him(he didn't) and that Bhim's higher education meant nothing in regards to their mental equivalency. And things generally
  15. JamesG

    Genuine Love

    Well I saw it not as insulting him, but insulting Christ within him. He's asked me to lay off, and I'm happy to do so. But if another evangelical would like to step up to the plate, I have plenty more to say about these peoples' worthless savior Jesus. Hey, blame me, not America. Most Americans don't share my immense value of education. Are people who drop out of high school less important than the rest of us? No, they're equally valuable. They're also unemployed at higher rates, more easily tricked into voting Republican (which is bad for the rest of the world too, see the Bush
  16. JamesG

    Genuine Love

    Good to see a fellow redneck rank I grew up in the pit of Ignorance that is Alabama and proud of it had to claw my way out!!!!!
  17. JamesG

    Genuine Love

    We use one to define evidence, why not the other? what evidence are you defining? Why wont you just directly answer the question I have tentatively agreed to your terms. If you have nothing to elaborate other than a parallel I think we are done here. What evidence are you looking for? Edit: Ok, I have thought about it. I don't know the evidence without thinking about it, but I have a tool to measure it. Thanks for the conversation James. You are a patient individual. Blessings sir. I am not looking for evidence. I am looking for a conclusion based off of your "tool".
  18. JamesG

    Genuine Love

    I think you have probably stated here in the best possible way exactly what it is I loathe about America. Do you REALLY think that people who drop out of high school are any less important than people who did not? So your your mother and aunts would consider it dreadful for you not to be admitted to a medical degree? What a horrible form of slavery you people have created for yourselves. You honestly do believe the amount of money and status a person has is what gives them worth. Explains a lot, particularly why genuine love has been replaced by this bullshit. It was replaced long ago. Bh
  19. that is the frame for the body in the background
  20. OH yes very sacrelig hehehehe. working on the body and wheelchair now
  21. JamesG

    Genuine Love

    We use one to define evidence, why not the other? what evidence are you defining? Why wont you just directly answer the question I have tentatively agreed to your terms. If you have nothing to elaborate other than a parallel I think we are done here.
  22. JamesG

    Genuine Love

    " I stated it only in Christian terms thinking you had the scientific understanding already. Not a big deal about the analogy, just facinated that the parallel exists. Again, I think we could use the process as evidence just as we use it in science, but we have no understanding of "spirtual quantification". I get the scientific understanding of it and I get the Christian terminology I am granting that you are using them correctly. Aside from there is a parallel what are you trying to point out? I can draw the same parallel to FSM/Hindu gods etc. please continue and explain othe
  23. JamesG

    Genuine Love

    "I think the Bible is pretty straightforward about people going to hell if they have no faith in Jesus. To that, I would hope there is no eternal hell and that we all are going to Heaven. But if it is, it is." End3 you mentioned you make quite a bit of money earlier. Do you own a house or property? You cant get to heaven unless you donate everything to the poor its pretty clear on that. Point is there is no possible way to get to heaven as each path excludes the other the bible is pretty straightforward about the impossibility of going to heaven.
  24. JamesG

    Genuine Love

    Not drunk MM, and I'm sorry y'all don't follow. That is not my intention. Let me try again. If God sees Christ in us as a method of selection, then God should see 100% Christ in us rather than a some diminished amount of Christ because of Christ being human here on earth. For example, if God looks at me or some human, there would be some ratio of "perfection" to "sin".....the creation/created being the value x and the subjection of x to it's environment(the fallen world), some value where x< 1. But given that Christ is placed in us though faith and communion, then x = 1 still hol
  25. JamesG

    Genuine Love

    End again take the scientific terminology out of your concept it adds nothing. It proves nothing it equates to me saying. The sun rises Jesus rose from the dead therefore the sun proves jesus existed. This is a bad application of logic. You are proving nothing just drop the science bit and spit it out stop trying to confuse the argument you are trying to make.
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