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directionless

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About directionless

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    I'm a middle-aged guy. I'm looking for a forum to discuss my struggles with religion. Atheists tend to be too smug and certain to understand what I say. Christians just want me to believe. Maybe this forum will be helpful.

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  • Still have any Gods? If so, who or what?
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  1. That is true. On your last point, I have heard that the purpose of prayer is partially to develop a relationship with God. Jesus said in one of the gospels "God makes the rain fall on both the good and the evil, so bless those who curse you, etc." (paraphrased). However, by responding to prayer requests, God can increase the faith of believers and give them a feeling of being an integral part of His plans. Of course the Lord's prayer says "thy will be done", and Jesus said the same thing when He was dreading the expected crucifixion. If humans have free will then God's plans must constantly ad
  2. Why don't we just drop this or agree to disagree or something? I'm sure you mean well with your questions, but they are like applying salt to my wounds. It's a long story.
  3. directionless, I have made 6,874 posts here and probably 4,000 of them were me trying to figure out who the hell I am since deconversion. Forming brand new world views are not easy when you've been brainwashed your whole life. This site of Ex-c and it's members helped me more than anything in the world to become comfortable with who I am right now. We are self absorbed when we land here because we are so damned confused about how the brainwashing of religion hurt us. You are not a nuisance. You are a hurting person trying to find your way. It's wonderful if we can find a good therapist t
  4. Do you spend appropriate time pursuing those interests? No
  5. Have you considered spending time with pursuits other than religion and its associated baggage? How about gardening? American history? Music? Sports? Biology? Anything else? That is a good idea. Hobbies are difficult for me, because I am often depressed, and I am on-call answering a phone 24 hours a day and 7 days a week (my brother and I own a small business). Forums seem to be an easy form of recreation, and religion is a topic that isn't very intellectually demanding. Another factor is that I was apparently psychotic, and I keep trying to understand what happened and why. Y
  6. Have you considered spending time with pursuits other than religion and its associated baggage? How about gardening? American history? Music? Sports? Biology? Anything else? That is a good idea. Hobbies are difficult for me, because I am often depressed, and I am on-call answering a phone 24 hours a day and 7 days a week (my brother and I own a small business). Forums seem to be an easy form of recreation, and religion is a topic that isn't very intellectually demanding. Another factor is that I was apparently psychotic, and I keep trying to understand what happened and why. Y
  7. That's basically what I was going to point out. All of the "answered prayers" I've known of personally have been things that easily have natural explanations (such as coincidences or medical intervention). If there was a supernatural being performing miracles, that being should be able to do things that could not have any possible natural explanation. As a side note, whenever I have heard stories of "miracles" that would not appear to have possible natural explanations, they've always been stories that are completely unverifiable. Either there are no names or places identified, or it's in
  8. Maybe? I'm sorry you have to endure all this confusion and pain, but you won't find any solutions here. Please dive into some intense therapy and don't be afraid of any drugs that might be needed to set your mind right. I hope you find the help you need. Thanks, @florduh , I didn't mean to be a nuisance, but I can see that my threads could be a distraction and a source of confusion for people who are exiting Christianity - and those are the people this forum is designed to help. So I will try to stop posting so much about my own issues. I have been seeing a therapist for about a ye
  9. Any chance, Directionless? As long as there is any chance at all that God exists? The Christian End3 and I have been talking about similar stuff in the Den, over the past few months. We've agreed that absolute and perfect knowledge (100% certainty) is an impossibility for humans. So can you see where this agreement might leave you? If you can never be absolutely certain that God doesn't exist, then there will always be a chance that he does. So long as you leave open even the smallest possible chance for God, you guarantee that you'll always get exactly the answer you want. But
  10. That's basically what I was going to point out. All of the "answered prayers" I've known of personally have been things that easily have natural explanations (such as coincidences or medical intervention). If there was a supernatural being performing miracles, that being should be able to do things that could not have any possible natural explanation. As a side note, whenever I have heard stories of "miracles" that would not appear to have possible natural explanations, they've always been stories that are completely unverifiable. Either there are no names or places identified, or it's in
  11. Seems like an odd notion that your not believing in God would put someone else at risk. But go ahead and acknowledge that you believe in God if it makes you feel better. Then all 3 parties are happy...even if one party is imaginary. It's a worry that God might withdraw His answered prayers if I am sufficiently ungrateful. Silly I guess.
  12. That is true, but I was not a fundamentalist Christian, so I am talking about a more generic God that masquerades as the indigenous Gods of various societies. I'm not sure where Jesus fits in. Of course, sometimes I feel so depressed that I don't believe in anything. Well, I guess you don't have to necessarily believe in the god of the bible. I don't believe in any gods, but I don't rule out the possibility of the supernatural, and perhaps no one has been able to explain a cosmic force out there correctly. After all, if there's a god, it better be different than us. Yes, and I'm
  13. Maybe? I'm sorry you have to endure all this confusion and pain, but you won't find any solutions here. Please dive into some intense therapy and don't be afraid of any drugs that might be needed to set your mind right. I hope you find the help you need. Thanks, @florduh , I didn't mean to be a nuisance, but I can see that my threads could be a distraction and a source of confusion for people who are exiting Christianity - and those are the people this forum is designed to help. So I will try to stop posting so much about my own issues. I have been seeing a therapist for about a ye
  14. That is true, but I was not a fundamentalist Christian, so I am talking about a more generic God that masquerades as the indigenous Gods of various societies. I'm not sure where Jesus fits in. Of course, sometimes I feel so depressed that I don't believe in anything.
  15. Unfortunately, I don't want to describe the answered prayers in detail, because I worry that God wants to keep these things confidential (if He exists). The apparent answers to prayers are not that different from the claims that we have all heard, and of course there are other explanations.
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