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  1. I've only worked in one place (I'm a young adult btw) at age 19. It was Dominoes Pizza. Worst mistake ever. But what made this point so significant is that around this period in my life, I was on the fence about theism in general. I guess after praying to make things better and only ending up taken advantage of by the managers and eventually being fired I guess that's what killed the last bit of my interest in Christianity and theism.
  2. Oh yeah I remember reading one of Strobel's works as a Christian. It's funny now because now I'm on the other side of this whole thing. I never got through it because it was so wordy, and I was a bit irritated by how he wrote things.
  3. I'm a person of color, so people are unlikely to suspect me of even being an atheist. This one time though,someone thought I was Buddhist. Anyway, I have problems when chatting with other people of color, since 'god' and 'letting god take control of things' comes up at some point in the conversation. Adding to that I live in the south as well. Usually I just say 'I don't really believe that' and then the conversation ends a short time later when I don't say anything else.
  4. Over here in my area we recently had something called "hip hop hope". Basically it is also a VBS but with a hip hop twist. Really don't think hip hop and Christianity were ever meant to go together.
  5. Oh no she is a definite Jesus freak. She always sounds super passionate every time she talks about Jesus or god. I like how y'all are tearing her up lol. I am too nice so I haven't told her she IS religious. And going back to what Redneck said. Either sounds bad, bit the pretending to be Christian is even worse. That is one main thing that drew me away. If no one will take it serious, then why should I?
  6. While I am clearly not religious, I don't have an issue with illegal immigrants. Maybe not send the children away, but if any illegals are allowed to stay and they and their relatives benefit, at least do away with naturalization. Now, about the tape. Funny, I visited a recruiters office years ago and they always had it on a Christian station, yet they were a**as. Another example. I worked at a place and one of the old managers had it on the Christian station all the time, yet she was a corrupt manager. I find it is best to just steer clear of people like that. It is unfortunate Christianity is dragged into politics and even somewhat indirectly affects non-Christians.
  7. Ah yes I remember that series. I was around 6-8 when it normally came on and would watch it then. Don't remember a full episode, just bits and pieces. This one would be a childhood show to me and I would only watch it out of nostalgia, nothing more. Funny enough I don't really recall ever thinking of Christianity or God as I watched this, but I also didn't fully understand the concepts of Christianity then.
  8. Lol that's what I've been thinking all along. Also, I did use to go to a church like the one described in the post above this one. Many people in that church also proclaimed not to be religious and funny enough, their pastor said that religion is one of the worst things invented. He also made some claim that Christianity is not about a religion, yet obviously you were encouraged to fast, pray, read the bible among other things. Smh. But, Christianity, no matter how liberal may be, is meaningless lol.
  9. Yes exactly. Now that you mention she always says that.
  10. This is the best possible title I could come up with. Allow me to explain. I have this friend who claims she is "not religious" every time I tell her I'm not religious. Yet it is clear she can still be considered a Christian. She's a huge Jesus freak, goes to church, meets with her church friends in little groups, prays and reads the bible. Each time I hear her claim to be religious, I am thinking "bullish*t" in the back of my mind. Her claim is vaguely reminiscent of the thing of trying to seem cool? Perhaps Christians and the other religious folk realize that religion is not cool and try to fit in the crowd by not claiming a religion. Yet this is fraudulent of her to claim she isn't religious when she tries to claim to be "not religious". I personally feel that this is a bit of an insult to people who cannot be classified as religious. I don't do anything spiritual nor attend any religious meetings of any sort. People who aren't religious would normally be atheists or agnostics in my opinion, and her claim is akin to an atheist/agnostic doing all the Christian things but not actually believing in them. She is nice, but I feel she is also a bit delusional, maybe even misguided on what it means to not be religious. Why would she say this when the opposite is true? Have any of you guys met these types of people? I also forgot to add I get she's also trying to proseltyze me and also hangs around friends that do the same thing too.
  11. Thanks guys. And thanks for the responses
  12. Yup. It kinda is a cult. She also became verbally abusive when I declined to go to church. Kept insulting me and everything. She does have a documented illness but it is clear the religion is only making it worse. A few times she has threatened to boot me. But, one day I will take her at her word and leave her. Then disown her. I am actually looking at a few options. One, and the one I am likely to do, is by staying in state but going to another city, preferably a large one with a good bus system since I cannot afford a car, and transfer colleges. I am aware that I will incur debt, but I literally have no other choice. I feel my energy getting sapped every time she does this. She has somehow already guessed I am an atheist, and I confessed that I didn't believe in any god. I will eventually pay off my loans, perhaps even find certain wealthy benefactors by way of certain sites. I also get the feeling she likes to us we religion as a means of control. And even if I gave in just to appease her, I would be living a lie not to mention I would be doing my religion wrong in her eyes. As with the liberal Christians, some of them seem loopy. How sane does it sound for a grown person to give goodness and rely on a being that doesn't exist? It is the grown up version of believing in Santa? And that example given by my last poster is horrible. My mum is and has been abusive too. My mum is something of a narcissist so that could also explain this horrible behavior.
  13. Yes, good point. It's been said and proven in scientific studies that smarter people are less likely to be religious. After all, what kind of thinking does it take to simply believe in a book that cannot be proven true.
  14. I am still emotionally reeling from the awful experience I had with my mother this morning. So, for the umpteenth time, my emotionally disturbed mother had been trying to get to me. I found out myself that the sole purpose of her arguing is to get a reaction out of me, which hasn't happened thus far. But even then, I also have just come to realize that she is just an emotional leech. Anyhow, my main point that I want to talk about is militant relatives. I am not talking about groups like the Westboro Baptist church, but sometimes, you just have people that take Christianity to the extremes. The ironic thing is that while these people may have good intentions in their mind, often, they turn about to be hypocritical and end up isolating themselves, which has happened with my mother thus far. I find it really sad that these people get so militantly religious to the point they end up isolating themselves. But then again, this goes to show that sometimes common sense is thrown out the more religiously inclined someone becomes. Now on a side note I wanted to add that I am still relatively young and a bit poor, so I have to live with my mom. But I am working on getting out. Of course, I won't tell her either. So, this morning, my mother up and said, "We're going to Church" because "we needed some Jesus." Yes, she actually said that in those exact words. And she had said that often in our little conversation. Then she continued to grow more furious when I kept insisting that I won't go to church. I am also beginning to think that the "Good Christian" type is both a stereotype and a myth. From looking at many Youtube videos and reading account of other atheists with militant christian parents, I am coming to believe that there is something about Christianity that makes people militant, especially to anything they could consider opposition (i.e. Gays, Lesbians, Atheists, non-Christians). And when we look back at history, Christianity has been used to Justify Slavery, women's oppression, fueling the inquisition, the Salem witchcraft trials and I could go on but I think the point has been made clear. And today you also have accounts of parents disowning their atheist kids. Considering all this, it seems like some amount of religiosity makes a person sour. There might be a few good Christians who aren't this gruesome, but more often than not, I am either coming across or hearing accounts of these militant, hypocritical Christians. I think these accounts go to show that Christians really aren't better than anybody else. Sometimes, they are worse than you'd expect. Ultimately, if this is what Christianity is likely to do to you, then I am comfortable remaining an atheist and unreligious. Only downside is that of courseI have to deal with Christians like my mother, and perhaps, those just as worse, if not more so, than her.
  15. Nope. I really tried to look and found zilch. But given that this is the only Buddhist center in town with the next one being over an hour away, I suppose it won't hurt to look. This place is literally 2 or 3 minutes from my home conviently. And this sounds silly, but I took a few 'what religion are you?' quizzes and two results came up for Theravada Buddhism. I'll look further into zen, although there are supposedly sects of Zen Buddhism that have some form of supernatural belief. Thanks for the answer :3
  16. And lol on the church being seedy strip clubs. That's pretty funny.
  17. Thanks all for the responses and sorry for the late reply. Technically I did use a similie and not a hyberbole, which is a direct statement, and then I would see how this is fallacious. I also love the analogy of church being like a musician. What a very clever comparison. Churches do start small then grow as they continue in popularity. I forgot to mention that the promise of blessings and good things for going to church and tithing would in a sense be the return investment here. Course, everyone knows there are good return investments based on mythological tales. Now getting a bit serious, there have been few churches that have committed literal Ponzi schemes (i.e. Eddie Long's 2013 ponzi scheme). I also agree with church being a bit like a scam. You can't imagine how cheated that I felt when I attended church and was expected to tithe as a poor, jobless college student. Then I would be told by my fellow church members that if I continued doing this that I would reap benefits. Needless to say, after about a year of doing this and personal life getting worse, I felt cheated, then used common sense to see this and left. I suppose for a person in this position, church would certainly be LIKE a Ponzi scheme, because it's the pastor who tells all the things you will get as he collects your money and you not getting anything in return, aside from wasted time.
  18. Thank you both. And that's a good point on the Ponzi scheme. But I think it does kinda fit since the money does come from the congregation. Oddly enough I did a search related to this topic, and it turns out a wall known pastor is involved in one.
  19. I have been interested in doing a secular form of Buddhism, but I have come across a few obstacles. There is a Buddhist center in town, but no hours or phone number is listed on their web pages so I will literally have to go in person and hope someone is there. The other thing is that this is a Theravada focused group, which I have no problem with since it is a type of Buddhism ideal for atheists. The other thing is that the closest temple is one hour away and I do not have gas money to go back and forth for that trip. So I figure I would have to be a solo Buddhist for awhile. Any advice is much appreciated :3
  20. Me and a buddy were chatting about this the other day, and we both agreed that the church was like a ponzi scheme. See, you've got the pastor at the top who gets most of the money. Then at the lower levels you might have the accountants and assistant pastors who may get a little cut of the money. Then at the bottom you of course have the church members, who usually don't get anything. Now this of course varies on the size of the church ttoo and happens at different degrees. What do you guys think?
  21. As a college student, I have been first exposed to this rather "interesting" belief system very recently. It seems that many of the students at my college who aren't Christian or any kind of mainstream Abrahamic religion seems to believe in this type of religion which I would classify under those New Age belief systems. At a friend's suggestion, I have looked into it a bit, and what I learned about Spirit science is very bizarre. I really don't want to go into detail about it, but after reading some facts for a good minute, this belief systems just rubbed me the wrong way. In some ways some of the claims in this belief system sound even more bizarre than some of the biblical miracle (ie. Jesus walking on water, Jesus turning water into wine or that story about the fishes and loaves). It really sounds like a bunch of belief systems combined together into one package. There appears to be nothing original about it, yet it appears to be really popular, and I'm having a difficult time seeing the appeal in this. It also didn't help that the first two people that I personally knew who had supported this belief system seemed like they had taken some kind of drug after they had shared some facts about it. One of them was very arrogant and essentially thought I was foolish for not subscribing to this belief system. Of the few times he had conversed with me about this, he mentioned stuff about crystal healing, chakras, sacred geometry to name a few, and went on to saying that his belief system is the original spirituality. He also believes in the whole Atlantian city thing and he even told me that his spirit was 72 feet tall (and he was serious about that one). Because of him, that other individual and what I've learned about Spirit Science, I am incredibly wary of anybody following this thing, even to the point of seriously being scared of them, because their beliefs just seem too bizarre to comprehend. It's almost like an adult still believing in Santa or the tooth fairy whenever I hear someone spewing this (what I believe to be) rubbish. Have any of you guys encountered people who support this whole spirit science? I'm not sure of it's a philosophy or if it falls under New Age religions, but I really am having a hard time taking anybody seriously who follows this because of my experience. Thanks!
  22. As a Christian I tried to "pray" my way out of poverty. You see, I am a poor black female and for my entire life I had been a Christian, believing that if I was a faithful Christian long enough that my financial situation would turn around. However, that didn't happen and needless to say I found my economic situation getting worse as well as my problems getting home. But I wonder if there are like any philosophical beliefs or books that would be key to me getting my own self out of poverty instead of relying on an imaginary being. I also notice that the richest countries, such as Sweden, are highly secular. What do you guys think?
  23. Thank you all for your responses. I have actually read through them all and I will definitely use everything you guys have said. I also am an artist and writer and that is what I want to do in life ultimately. If I can at least make a good living with both skills then I am golden. I have been doing both since 2005 as hobbies. Plus I like to read though I am king of steering a bit away from it as I get older to focus on other priorities but I nonetheless visit the library multiple times every single week. I am also in a position where I have to fix the problems I caused myself by blindly following religion and waiting on some sky being to help me. If only I had not relied on my former religion as a cruch. Oh well. And I am joining the army national guard and plan to do their smp pprogram, which helps you to become an officer. I live in poverty so I'll literally do ANYTHING to get out and this was the easiest way.
  24. Ohh yes guy above me. can so relate. And heavy rock (I.e. Rob Zombie, Metallica and Death stars to name a few) has been a favorite of mine for years even as I Christian when I secretly longed for it like a lover. I have also been taking in more darker and edgier things without any kind of guilt. Laveyan Satanism is right on the money with fulfilling all your filthy pleasures guilt free. After all it's human nature right? Plus I feel so good afterwards.
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