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ironhorse last won the day on September 13 2014

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    Yes, Jesus the visible image of the invisible God.

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  1. I want to thank everyone here for the kind words about my father. If anyone knew how he was about discussing issues it was me, he was just as stubborn with me at times! This was a tough week for us but it ended beautifully with a wonderful service yesterday. I may come back and join in this group, just not sure if I have the time. I did want to leave something with you all so you could understand more about him than just being Iron Horse. He used to run a Saturday night coffee house in the early 90's called the Iron Horse that was a haven for teens, and there where no strict dos and don'ts exc
  2. Thank you Jeff, I see you are from SC. We live in the upstate in Pickens, not sure if you are in the area.




  3. Hello all, my name is Adam and the user known as Iron Horse is my father. His name was Michael and earlier today he lost his battle to a lung disease, Bronchiolitis. He's had this condition for almost 7 years and he developed pneumonia the past couple of weeks and today he left this earth. He was a great father and he was an even better grandfather to 6 grandkids. He will be missed by many and he loved many. I know that the folks here were a part of his life, and that he loved coming here and debating with you. We talked a lot about the discussions that took place here, so I know t
  4. So the bible is wrong either way. They tried to claim they were ignorant and unlearned when in fact they could read and write? So is the author of Acts out right lying when it said Peter and John were ignorant and unlearned? Context, context, context my friend. Acts 4 (KJV) 4 And as they spake unto the people, the priests, and the captain of the temple, and the Sadducees, came upon them, (Peter’s message) 13 Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and
  5. The fact about facts is sometimes you must read other facts to study and consider before you can make a factual conclusion. I’m posting text from a link and I posted five other links on this topic of languages in the 1st century. First, a little more about those "unlearned and ignorant" 1st century Jewish fishermen: On the other hand, the Bible expected the common people to be able to read and write. For example, when Moses led Israel out of Egypt, they were told to write the laws upon their door posts (Deuteronomy 6:6-9; 11:18-20). Isaiah predicted that Nebuchadnezzar
  6. I disagree. It was written in the most common language of the time. A language that almost all could speak and understand, and many could also read and write: Koine Greek Classical Greek was used by the educated class, but Koine Greek was the language of the working man, the peasant, the vendor, and the housewife—there was nothing fancy about it. It was the vernacular, or vulgar language, of the day. Koine Greek was spread by the armies of Alexander the Great in the 4th century BC. Much like English has become today, Koine Greek became the most common and pervasive “intern
  7. So then what defines these "the scriptures" in the first place? The scriptures define themselves as God’s written word. Instead of dropping gold tablets from the sky, God chose to use humans in the process od revealing himself through the written word. This occurred over a long period of time. You've got a whole mess of "the scriptures" that the Jews don't use. The New Testament was written by Jews. Of course, within Judaism they are not used, but to Messianic Jews they are scripture. There's a whole mess of "the scriptures" that neither the Jew
  8. Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight. ~ Proverbs 3:5-6 (NIV) According to Proverbs 3:5-6 though, we can't lean on our own understanding. If you can't trust your own so-described 'faulty reasoning' then how do you know that your interpretation of doctrine is correct? To understand God, I cannot think what God should be like or what God should do. I cannot cherry pick the scriptures to make God conform to my ideas or inventions. I
  9. Absolutely, many make that claim. So, do you trust them or trust yourself to find out what is correct or false? I’m not pleading with anyone here to trust me. Our decision on these matters are our own.
  10. After searching many scriptures, I have determined the bible to be false. Since it is false it is not an authority. “I have determined…” is exactly what it boils down to. After reading, studying, and whatever processes we go through in search of the truth, it is each of us to deciding for ourselves. “I have determined” it is true. or “I have determined” it is false. We must decide what we read or hear is actually the truth. That’s it. We ultimately have to trust ourselves that our conclusion is the correct one. Bob Dylan wrote about this in his song
  11. Sorry, I'm using word doc. and working with a big screen. Seems, it too late to edit. Should I repost?
  12. I've asked this so many times... I'll even refrain from my usual swearing and ad-hominem blasts, and I'll ask nicely: How are you (or how is anyone) qualified to dictate to anyone whether something is a "false teaching" or not? Concerning the scriptures, the scriptures warns of false teaching and tells us to search the scriptures to see if what they say is true. The scripture is the authority. So, I guess you could say exercising this skill of searching and studying the scriptures on these issues, qualifies a believer to make a judgement on teachings that do not align with
  13. No, my hair is always in a mess. One thing though… I did not say abusive churches were the only reason, I said it was one of the reasons. I posted that first because I think it is one of the major reasons. The atrocities of false teachings and abusive churches (which cover dozens of issues) has harmed many people. I also said, I had more thoughts on the topic. I am aware there are other reasons.
  14. I think one of the reasons has to do with false teachings, abusive leaders and abusive churches. These have cause horrific trauma to those who have experienced it. I’m not going to berate people who flee these false presentations of the Christian faith. I also understand that one the purposes of the ex-Christian forums is to help people to tell their story and seek help. I have a few more thoughts, but I will wait and post when they apply to future comments.
  15. Yes I do. The verse you quoted shows that God allowed Paul to express his personal opinion. Not every verse in the scriptures is a direct quote from God. This is what I have been saying. It is all God-breathed. What is in the 66 books of the Bible is what God wanted in the scriptures.
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