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  1. What i find strange about that article, and anything else these people type out, is that they try to disprove everyone else's beliefs yet never allow anyone to disprove theirs. Thanks for posting it though. -me

    He's one of those people who would prefer to not be challenged unfortunately, sometimes people still continue to believe they are right even with a mountain of evidence that they are wrong, the delusional type, and you are welcome.

  2. I'm with CeilingCat. I cannot recognize your suggestion as Christianity. Whether I would accept any such religion would depend on whether it allowed a range of views sufficient to permit my own, I suppose. But either way, I would not still be a Christian because it would not be Christianity.

    The problem with saying it would not be Christianity is that the current teachings of modern Christianity wouldn't have existed to begin with (so we would have never known about them) if modern Christianity actually taught the above

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    do you believe jesus never taught about sin?

     If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin. (jesus own words)

      But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

     

    He did teach about sin but the real meaning of sin in Greek was revealed to be "missing the mark" or making mistakes.

    Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1john 3:4

     Sin is breaking god's law, not making mistakes. God wouldn't have sacrificed his only son for people having making mistakes. The bible is a law book, with god being the judge. 

      Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. romans 4:15

     Jesus came to save believers from that wrath. He absolutely spoke about sin, righteousness, and judgement. 

     The bible as a whole never supports universal salvation. There are a few verses that use the word "world." But, the word world has many meanings in the bible. 

    The bible taught thousands of things that many Christians never read

    I sooo agree with you. To answer your opening post, no i would not have stayed in it. -peace

    :) Alright, I probably wouldn't have either, Wicca is just too attractive

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    do you believe jesus never taught about sin?

     If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin. (jesus own words)

      But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

     

    He did teach about sin but the real meaning of sin in Greek was revealed to be "missing the mark" or making mistakes.

    Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1john 3:4

     

    Sin is breaking god's law, not making mistakes. God wouldn't have sacrificed his only son for people having making mistakes. The bible is a law book, with god being the judge. 

     

     Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. romans 4:15

     

    Jesus came to save believers from that wrath. He absolutely spoke about sin, righteousness, and judgement. 

     

    The bible as a whole never supports universal salvation. There are a few verses that use the word "world." But, the word world has many meanings in the bible. 

    The bible taught thousands of things that many Christians never read

  5. I didn't leave the religion because of the way it was implemented or how believers adopted their various dogma. I left because it was bullshit at its core and had no evidence to support any of it.

    I know but I asked if it was loving would you have stayed one?

  6. do you believe jesus never taught about sin?

     

    If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin. (jesus own words)

     

     But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

    He did teach about sin but the real meaning of sin in Greek was revealed to be "missing the mark" or making mistakes. What Jesus did not teach was salvation was through calling upon him as Lord and Savior.

  7. jesus only came to save people from eternal punishment and their sins, if you take these things away that you stated above, then there would have been no reason for him to come, therefor christianity never would have existed

     

    there is a religion like the one you described in your opening post, it's those conversations with god books, the god in those books is the god that christianity claims to have

    According to certain scriptures there is universal salvation and Jesus came to teach people to love others, but the teacher of eternal punishment and the whole Jesus died to save us from sin was taught by Paul, when I was a Christian, I noticed that he contradicted Jesus many times.

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    1. Humans are naturally good

    3. There is no original sin

    4. There is no sin just mistakes

    5. There is no eternal punishment

    What if Christianity were like this before you left it behind, do you think you would still be a Christian?

     

    If this were true, then jesus never would have come, so there would have been no christianity to begin with.

    But Jesus taught the opposite of what modern Christianity teaches

  9. What if Christianity was a loving religion that taught this

     

    1. Humans are naturally good

     

    2. There is no Satan

     

    3. There is no original sin

     

    4. There is no sin just mistakes

     

    5. There is no eternal punishment

     

    6. compassion and selflessness are truly honored.

     

    7. Tolerate other religions

     

    8. Do not subdue the earth but love it

     

    9. Men and women are equal

     

    10. beliefs are not important, only our actions

     

    11. Homosexuality is not wrong

     

    12. Sex is only bad when it results in pain, and only good when it results in a better relationship or a beautiful planned child other than that it is neither good nor bad.

     

    13. No one has all the answers.

     

    What if Christianity were like this before you left it behind, do you think you would still be a Christian?

  10. when i left christianity, i lost all my friends, they would have nothing to do with me because of what the bible says about that circumstance. the only reason they would be my friend again is if i reconverted.

     

    That's awful to know that beliefs are valued over friendship.

  11. Probably all of us have asked Christians where's the evidence that your bible is 100% accurate and they often give ridiculous answers that dodge the question like

     

    1. Because the bible says so

    2. Because the bible is the only true source in the world.

    3. Because I have been born again.

    4. Because history and science proved it.

     

    Similar to how we ask other intelligent questions like "why is Christianity the only true religion? ( because the bible says so.) Why would a loving God allow everlasting suffering? ( Because God is righteous and righteousness requires righteous punishment.) Why are religions like Buddhism, the work of evil when it cultivates peace and humility (because we are saved through Faith not good works, Jesus is the only way to heaven.)

    Isn't Christianity based on fear? ( no, it's based on love and the teachings of the bible) If God is a forgiving being, why does it take belief for him to forgive? (Because he cannot tolerate sin, just ask for forgiveness and receive Jesus as your Lord and savior) Why is Faith more important than actions rooted in unselfish love and kindness? ( Because we have all fallen short and our good deeds are filthy rags to God) If Faith alone saves, why does the bible say "A person is justified by actions and not by Faith alone? (We are not saved by works but by Faith in Jesus Christ)

     

    Has anyone else had similar responses to questions?

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